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@Background Pony  
Excuse them for not wanting to waste over $300,000 and months of filming, editing, animation, and composing. They didn’t do it for the money. Lauren Faust said on her deviantart:
 
“…Though we raised a nice chunk of change on Kickstarter, all the money went into the making of the film. There are several people who, in the name of making the film the best it could be, agreed to wait until AFTER the film was complete to receive their compensation….”
 
“…if the film is available to view all over the internet, it disqualifies it from being entered into many film festivals and keeps it from being considered for airing on tv, cable or other entertainment outlets…”
 
They have incentive to go after people who aren’t doing what they ask, it would interfere with their vision of what they want the doc to be.
 
 
@professor_of_hoers  
I’d certainly at least make them think that I would.
professor_of_hoers
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@Itsthinking
 
I’m curious now, tangential though it may be, about your first statement.
 
Lets say you do have the legal right to kill someone committing this theft against you; would you do it? Would you end their life over a possession?
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@Itsthinking  
How do you know that exactly? Only pony haters are pirates? What kind of simplistic mindset are you applying here?
 
“welcome to capitalism”  
This is exactly my point. The documentary team turned out to be just in for a quick cash grab from the fandom that was to naive to donate $300 000 to produce the product they can actively and aggressively sell.
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@professor_of_hoers  
I won’t get into this, but that would be technically grand theft. He did have a right to do what he did, $2000 isn’t nothing.
 
You’ve got to have the option. Otherwise limited creation will get done. It may be noble, the concept of “oh I’ll just create this and give it to everyone for free, nah you don’t even need to acknowledge me or donate or anything” but it doesn’t work for everything.
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@Background Pony  
They’re not sharing the documentary because they’re proud of it. They’re sharing it because they want to laugh at “lol autist sperglords spaghetti.”
 
If people really have such a big problem with it not being free to distribute, they shouldn’t have donated in the first place. As for your last sentence, welcome to capitalism.
professor_of_hoers
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@Itsthinking
 
I know I said I was done but I will make one last attempt to clarify myself. Of course, we will not end up agreeing but I want to make my point as fully as I possibly can.
 
Almost a year ago in a town about 2 hours a way a man was shot in the chest (later died I believe) for stealing copper wire from someone’s work truck. The wire was worth aprox 2000 dollars. The man who shot him was not charged with anything. Apparently it’s legal to defend your property in such a way. I’m not sure of all the legal issues.
 
The man had a legal right to shoot the other but I, personally, would not kill someone over copper wire.
 
 
So, I don’t think what is within your rights and what is right is always the same thing. I think their actions are out of scale with the crime committed and I can not support that.
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@Itsthinking  
They’ve collected 300k via kickstarter on the good will of the community. People were donating money in a hope that the team would produce a good documentary that would capture the spirit of the fandom. Now that this is over and 300k dollars are spent the team remembered of their legal rights and started bullying people who try to share this documentary with the rest of the fandom.
 
Oh yes, this captures the spirit of the community perfectly. Just when there is money involved, the masks are off. Gotta milk every little penny out of that product while its hot!
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@professor_of_hoers  
I must say that we have differing morals. There’s a difference between pirating a game from EA or Activision and pirating a documentary that was produced on a (compared to other professional documentaries) shoestring. Plus there’s the whole thing that they’re not doing it for money, they’re doing it so it can be shown at film festivals and being on Youtube disqualifies it from that.
 
Not everyone is so laissez-faire with their intellectual property. That’s why it’s called their property.
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I’ll wait and see, as said, to find out if this is legitimate. However, there’s really nothing more for me to debate on this issue.
 
I find these actions morally reprehensible from my personal perspective and so I will not support it or it’s project with my time, money, or word of mouth. It is as simple as that.
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@professor_of_hoers  
There are people who don’t want their work to be freely distributed. They want to make money off of their work. Is it really that hard to understand?
 
I’m pretty sure this is just yet another /mlp/ trolling attempt anyway.
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@Itsthinking
 
I can 100 percent assure you I would not take such actions. Any documentaries, if I ever created them, would be under creative commons and I would not ever take aggressive legal action like that.
 
It is ridiculous.
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@professor_of_hoers  
It’s defending intellectual property and they have every right to do so.
 
Do not even tell me that you wouldn’t do the same if it were your documentary, because I know that would be a lie to save face.
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Welp, I tried to read most of the reddit thing but as usual 5 minutes with reddit turns my stomach so… I still don’t know if this is legit or not.
 
If it turns out it is, I plan on discouraging anyone I know from purchasing or watching it. I’ll have to wait and see.
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@professor_of_hoers
 
 
Wanting people to obey copyright law and get it through approved channels is behavior “bad enough” to make you not want to watch it?
 
 
@PaskaNaakka  
This isn’t a multi-million dollar feature. They do actually lose money from people that don’t buy it.