Not to mention there are a couple of pictures of Dash showing interest. Makes sense considering she’s the closest to his age among the Mane 6

Meh, he’s made an abundance of Sparity pics too, so we really can’t say for sure if he objectively wants Spike and Sweetie Belle to be the endgame.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken
Not quite. I can confirm this because, as it just so happens, the commissions you are referring to are actually my commissions, and I’ve only commissioned two.

![(https://derpibooru.org/images/2254654?q=artist_3Amauroz2C)]
![(https://derpibooru.org/images/2254654?q=artist_3Amauroz2C)]

These two are the only ones that are commissioned. I didn’t even commission the alternate versions of these. The rest of the SpikeBelle drawings are all Mauroz.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken
To be fair, Spike/Sweetie is cute, though I’m talking about the fandom version of them (I don’t think they spoke much in the show).

Last I checked, any and all SweetieXSpike we’ve artwork were all paid commissions.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken
Don’t get me wrong; I really like Luz and Amity together. Just an example I was highlighting.

The images we’ve seen are Mauroz’s projects. They are what he wants and what may we may possibly see.

We have not seen the full story yet, and we’ve only had Sweetie Belle for a few issues. We’ve had Rainbow for much longer, and things really haven’t progressed any better than Spike and Sweetie. I’m sure we’ll get that development with time. Like I said, let’s wait for the complete series before we pass final judgment.

The first three episode of Bojack Horseman don’t define the entire series.

I’ll give you Vegeta and even Helga to an extent, however Amity at the very least made an effort to change herself for the better and fix the damage she’d done (check out this vid).

While I’m not opposed to waiting for things to develop better, by this point Mauroz’s been doing a poor job of making me WANT to see them together, especially with some of the images of them together where are the characters act like none of that abuse ever happened.

Like I said, she’s done nothing to show that she deserves Spike’s affection or forgiveness so far, them getting together without addressing all of the abuse has gone to go get the equivalent of Chowder or getting married to his stalker.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken
That’s the thing, though: we’re still very much in the middle of the story. I think we should give Mauroz time develop it along with the characters. We can’t really judge the entire relationship between the characters when we have yet to see the full product.

Plenty of other series do enemy-to-frenemy-to-friend/love interest tropes, including MLP. When it comes to entertainment mediums, there has to be some suspension of disbelief on certain matters that clearly wouldn’t as accepted in real life scenarios. Should Goku really trust Vegeta after all the death and damage he caused in the Saiyan Saga? Would Luz really date Amity after the bullying and belittling to her and her friends? Would Arnold really date Helga after all the years of bullying and harassment? (Okay, I’ll admit I don’t really like this one; too creepy on Helga’s end, but the end results remains the same: they get together).

Let’s just let Mauroz write the story as he sees fit. It’s his project in the end.

You’re right, Rainbow has done Spike worse, and that needs to be addressed as well. That is point I’m sure Spike only considers her a friend in the sense that Twilight hangs out with her so he has to tolerate her. Both of them need to be told off for their actions and attitude towards him.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken
Actually you are right.

Maybe you can PM Mauroz to make her development a strong one.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken
Perhaps that one moment at the hospital is the first step. Changes like this hardly happen overnight.

As for building trust, Spike seems to trust Rainbow Dash in this series, and she has verbally and physically assaulted the guy, along with saying she enjoys seeing him suffer. There has hardly been a moment between them to suggest they have built typical friendship, but it looks like they’re getting there.

If Rainbow can insult Spike and put him in submission grasps yet still become friends, why can’t the same happen between Spike and Sweetie Belle? I actually think Rainbow has done Spike worse.

I’m not saying that she can’t change, I’m simply saying that she’s shown no real evidence aside from one moment in the hospital that she WILL change. Plus the way you phrase it comes off as though Spike is supposed to automatically give her the benefit of the doubt when she’s been nothing but abusive towards him since they first met.

What reason has he given him to be remotely trusting of her after everything she’s done? The answer is NOTHING.

Even if the comic goes through with the “I bullied you because I had a crush on you” cliche, the only justifiable response Spike could ever give her would be this:

Spike: “Yeah, well I didn’t feel ‘liked’, Sweetie Belle. I felt ‘BULLIED’!”

Her bullying shouldn’t be glossed over as a childish crush, she should have to earn Spike’s trust back after that.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken
I’m not saying it justifies all of her actions, but who among us was born a perfect little saint? Some guys I grew up with were pretty rotten as kids but grew up to be pretty good people, and others were the complete opposite, and even then some of them were still able to turnaround for the better at later points in life.

If real life people can change for the better, why not Sweetie Belle?

That doesn’t justify or excuse her actions.

It better blosssom soon before she becomes an unsalvageable character, all that bullying is going to take its toll on Spike to the point where he’ll finally snap and she’ll be left in a worse situation than when she started.

@MechaTomX
I see Sweetie’s attitude as a bit of a front for attention. She hasn’t been shown to have many friends since she hasn’t met Apple Bloom and perhaps not even Scootaloo, and it’s kind of looking like she still lives a bit in Rarity’s shadow.

Her sweet nature just hasn’t fully blossomed yet.

Well we only just have to wait to see when she meets Diamond Tiara, maybe she will change when she meet her, in an situation like:

“Oh no, i could end like her, if i dont change my attitude.”

Blackmail is still blackmail.

She still stole money from him and basically force him to spend it on something he didn’t want. And they weren’t even on a date, she was just forcing him to buy her stuff.

Not to mention the fact that in a recent comic she openly admitted that she liked seeing him suffer since it’s more satisfying for her to see him humiliated.

Her room to grow is growing smaller and smaller with every appearance. As far as I’m concerned she’s nothing more than a bully in any relationship she has with Spike is going to be objectively abusive.

@Meanlucario
I was referring the the teasing and situations.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think Sweetie Belle has done anything too bad; she just tricked him out of some pocket change and leveraged him to go on a date with her (I’ve seen Helga Patiki do much worse). She still has plenty of opportunity to grow as we’ve seen in one of the more recent issues where she was genuinely concerned for his well being after going Broly.

@DanvilleBengal
Nagatoro is from the anime/manga Don’t Toy With Me, Miss Nagatoro. Basically Nagatoro teases Hachiouji because she likes him. She also stops when she goes too far and apologizes, stops her friend when they go too far, and stands up for Hachiouji when it counts.

Beg pardon, but I’m in the dark here–I dont have the slightest clue who Nagatoro or Hachiouji are, much less where they come from…not to mention what comparison is used for Spike a d Sweetie Belle here. Care to elaborate a little?

@Vatobot17
I mean, Nagatoro doesn’t scam or blackmail Hachiouji last I check.

I can’t help but make comparisons to Nagatoro between these two in Mauroz’s universe.

Long story short, she swindles Spike out of his money multiple times and blackmails him non-stop throughout the comic, even out by calling him her slave.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken
I haven’t kept up with the comic, so I wouldn’t know.

That doesn’t really make it okay, especially when she’s so abusive to the point where you could easily swap her out with Diamond Tiara and absolutely nothing would be different.