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Based on that scene from Keep Calm and Flutter On.
Since 2021 I’ve been reading many criticisms from the fandom (usually based on leaks, assumptions or information you see on a new toy, as if judging an entire show based on some leaks is ok instead of judging the G5 on its own merit) and I think most of them are unjustified. I expected the Generation 5 to have a hard first step not because of what it needed to earn, but because of the fandom not wanting G5 to change things, even though Friendship is Magic already changed so many things and concepts in massive ways, especially the last 4 seasons.
Despite that A New Generation received positive reviews and the first episode of Make your Mark was very decent, some people are acting like “this is where they crossed the line”, which is ridiculous. It received some criticisms that I think are unfair, especially those that are meant to compare G5 with G4 just to make G4 look good in comparison despite that G5 had very little time compared to the 9 years of content G4 received.
However, I’m going to defend it, because at least the premise is interesting and different, it has very good intentions, the characters are likeable (keep in mind none of the Mane 5 are manipulative, which is always a good thing, I want Generation 5 to focus more on friendship), it gave us reasons to root for these ponies and there are tons of possibilities for Make your Mark to be great. I think people are being mean for the sake of being mean. Sadly there are a lot of factors that influence this. Friends, forums, threads, social culture, social approbation, what you are expected to say, what you are expected not to say, etc.
People like to think “yeah, we are individuals”, but they don’t mind to say the same thing a thousand guys already said instead of saying what you really mean and being sincere. It’s not that people are stubborn, it’s that some people can be imprisoned to the thought of “if I’m being too sincere, I’ll get a subtle social rejection for everyone to the point where they don’t respect me, so I’ll say what they want to hear”. It’s that kind of fear, the fear of having your own voice in a group because if you had your voice, someone will get offended, no matter how polite you’re being.
I’m not saying you have to 100% love Generation 5 (there are things I don’t like, like the pop songs despite I like the background music). I’m saying that you have to give it a chance the same way you gave Friendship is Magic a chance. If you are a fan of My Little Pony, you should find things in Generation 5 to enjoy rather than find things to hate on. After all, these shows are all about two important things: love and tolerance.
Just my 2 cents.
Idk, I like it. Sunny looks fine. The only design that changed that actually bothered me is Misty’s new design with TYT. But even then it’s not that bad.
I figured I’d might as well see what’s so bad about it, but I never finished G4 since I first watched it after graduating highschool so my memory of it was pretty muddy and I figured if one of the complaints was retcons, I might as well finish G4 (wspecially since they were only up to Season 3 when I first watched it). So I finished G4, loved it, then bought A New Generation on YouTube (which in hindsight was kinda dumb since I had Netflix and didn’t know that movie was already on Netflix lol)
As for the movie itself, I greatly enjoyed it, oddly enough, more so than the G4 movie. And I will say that the opening scene is easily my favorite part of the movie. Not just from all the G4 references, but just how well-executed and done that scene was at showing what kind of person Sunny’s father is. Plus, I love the idea of a historian character for him, but the only complain with the opening scene I have is that it is pretty obvious from the timeskip that Argyle is dead. Sunny didn’t look like she aged much more than 10 years or so and Argyle looks to be no older than mid-40s/early-50s, so he shouldn’t be dead by old age by this point. Though it’s possible he may have died by an illness. However, it is still a kids’ movie, so I don’t fault them for leaving his death in the dark. But he’s passed away and that’s all we needed to know.
As far as characters go, much like G4 did, the characters are its strongest point. The ones that stood out the most for my was Izzy and Hitch. One of the complaints I saw G4 fans have is that Izzy is a carbon-copy of Pinkie Pie and the rest of the new Mane Five are rip-offs of FiM’s Mane Six. Which…is just flat wrong. They all have their own personalities. Izzy does FEEL like a Pinkie Pie type character, but to call her Unicorn Pinkie Pie is not right. A carefree, bubbly, eccentric personality isn’t unique to Pinkie Pie, not by a longshot.
My only complaints with the movie was that, even though Sprout DESTROYED Sunny’s house (albeit unintentionally), and by extention, a lot of her father’s work, Sprout faces no consequences for this (this even continues in the follow-up 3D and 2D shows). But even then, this is only a minor complaint, as the scene of Sunny staring at the broken picture of her father after her house gets destroyed was simply perfect as is.
Make Your Mark is also my favorite and preferred show between the toy, mainly because of the artstyle and especially because of the facial animations. Much like the movie, the facial expressions are very expressive, much like FiM. The only downside of MYM is it suffers from a lot of animation errors and drop in quality. The drop in quality from a movie to a show is to be expected but MYM could be a whole lot more with a bigger team and better advertisement. The main flaw storywise with MYM is also what a lot of G4 fans complain about that I do think is warranted: the retcons, such as Chapter 1 and Chapter 2 directly claiming multiple times that Earth Pony never had magic prior to the new floral magic. Which is clearly false as in G4 their connection to the earth, animals, as well as their strength is their magic. If they didn’t have magic, Tirek wouldn’t have drained them of their magic and when he drained Rockhoof later in Season 9, Rockhoof wouldn’t have turned into to a scrawny, weaker form. The other is that Sparky is born with wings, which is wrong because dragons get their wings later on and no dragon in G4 gets them at birth. Outside of those two, no other retcons really matter honestly. Even the dragon one could potentially be explained (possibly because of all the magic?). When people go on about how many retcons there are, it’s an exaggeration. And stuff from G4 not being shown in G5 is irrelevant because just because it’s shown doesn’t mean it never existed.
Tell Your Tale was the one I had the hardest time watching. Yes, I dislike the artstyle. No, it’s not because of “Ew CaliArts/Steven Universe faces”. I’ll be honest, I got used to those, though Zipp’s head shape is still weird to look at. What bothers me is the legs/hooves. I know the idea was to make each pony race have different body types unlike FiM, which I’m all for. But, many of them have their legs curve inward into the hooves, which give them this pegleg-esque look. Of course, not all of them have it, but Sunny’s is the most egregious in my opinion. As far as the animations are concerned, it clearly has the same style of Animation as most CaliArts shows like Steven Universe where they have the whole curved limb type of movement. For example, when Izzy chases Posey in that one short, Posey’s running animation just looks really bad to me, her limbs to bend or anything, they kind of just curve, giving this stilted feel to it.
That said, I’m not a big fan of TYT, but it’s not absolutely awful, I’ve seen way worse animation. I do feel that most people hate it because “it’s not the same artstyle as FiM”, which…to be fair, the new characters wouldn’t really look all that good in FiM artstyle, to be perfectly honest.
Between both shows the weakest characters are the new filly trio, Glory, Seashell, and Peach Fizz. Their whole characters boils down to Pipp’s obsessed fans. I certainly hope they end up doing more with them.
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…Are you saying people hate G5, as a whole, because of designs? That’s incredibly shallow, especially considering how lovely the ponies and other visuals looked in G5’s movie. I haven’t even seen many complaints about Sunny’s design (especially compared to Opaline’s).
Honestly, I think her design is better now. At least she doesn’t have the exact same color palette as Scootaloo and Smolder now.
But either way, the design of the characters shouldn’t be the only determining factor on something being good or not. Designs and aesthetics are important, but they shouldn’t be prioritized over the other elements in a franchise, like story, character, themes, setting, etc.
The fans are likely upset with Sunny’s new looks. Hasbro did chose the wrong colors for Sunny’s mane stripe after all. If they had picked something else for Sunny’s mane stripe other than the basic red, yellow and blue colors then I’m sure that Sunny would’ve gotten a much warmer welcome from her fans. Sadly, Hasbro screwed that up for good so Sunny’s already lost. Even Zipp looks better than Sunny now and Sunny used to look as good as Zipp did before the mane color change so it’s clear that Hasbro made a mistake with her mane colors and got them colored wrong.
Evil never dies. It just takes new forms.
Tell your tales is a spin off
It almost feels like Pony Life, but canon.
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Edited because: Kids, this is why you proofread you work
That was literally children playing with toys.
A point is right now the focus should be the present not telling us what happened in the past. G5’s focus should be G5 not G4.
We need more than one movie or even One movie and a special to know enough about the characters to start looking into the past of g4
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This is more like a sequel. One that seems to retcon a lot of it’s prior entry, even though that prior entry was quite liked as it was.
It’s like in the previous ‘movie’, they said: The good guys won and they lived happily ever after. And then the studio is like: That sold well, let’s make a sequel! And the writers answer with ‘but what about ‘happily ever after?’ And the ‘obvious’ answer? Disregard that. Just throw in some new conflict they can solve.
I hope it’s not like that. But at least to me, it sure looks a lot like it.
They never actually advertised it as being in the same universe just a random interview.
And even about what happened in between generations should be told later once We are more familiar with the characters and their home.
It’s like cinematic universes the ones that fail are the ones that try jumping straight into it
All that said – I don’t care about the reviews either. I’m inclined to trust in my own opinion.
Of course that’s unfair. It’s unfair towards these new characters. It’s unfair to the entire world of G5 and G5 itself. But I can’t shake that feeling off. Because they connected both.
There are actual issues with the moral lessons and characters themselves, but several youtube videos pointed them out way better than I could and I don’t just want to regurgitate.