@Prof.NightJack
Maybe they didn’t see the point in making new hands for a model that would only show up for a few seconds at the end. Lazy, but understandable.
@Prof.NightJack
DR would’ve been okay, or even good, if they’d actually stuck to the story premise they’d promised: the Double Rainboom. All the previews were centered around that one event, yet it happens right in the middle of the story. What’s the second half? A circlejerking crossover with the Powerpuff Girls that has absolutely no effect on the actual story. It’s just ten minutes of pointless filler.
As for the Sonic movie, I haven’t watched it all the way through, but I think the CG robots were pretty cool, and Sonic looks…okay, though a little bit in the uncanny valley. And why in the world did Knuckles have fingers?!
@GargantuanBass
That’s good, you see there was some enjoyable things to it, not just call it bad and that’s it.
To me both of these are about the same but the Sonic one was a little better, Double Rainboom was “meh” over all, maybe if it had less references in all I would see it better, the Sonic one had it’s cameos but it was just the people play as a part of the Sonic world, not going “oh hay it’s Doug Walker/James Rolfe/other” it’s just them in it.
@Prof.NightJack
I won’t be one of those guys and say it was a total waste. Like I said, it did have some genuinely good moments, but for me, the bad outweighed the good. I really did want to like it but…I just can’t.
@GargantuanBass
I have seen a number of people saw how even the very short pop culture references in it was the reason it sucked and not Derpy being there, so there is no way to win them all.
You say that was the bad thing and other say it was a good thing, it’s just how things go, to me it’s all if it comes out with more good then bad, or more bad then good, but a lot of people think if there is something they see as bad in it, no matter if there is more good over all, then it sucks no matter what.
@Beau Skunky
There’s a difference between a subtle shout out like placing her in the background or showing her for like a second, and having her on screen for a full half-a-minute trying to eat a muffin.
I don’t mind shout outs or in jokes or pop culture references, but two rules of thumb have to be followed to make them work; keep them short, and keep them subtle.
@GargantuanBass
Well, that’s you’re opinion, I wasn’t bothered by it. It was kinda a cute moment, even if the visual gag with her eyes was a bit predictable, and admittedly done before. (In the official IDW comic, in fact. Though, to be fair this thing took over a year to make. So that was planned before the comic came out.)
Maybe it did go a bit overboard with the memes/in-jokes, (I admit the “trollface” cameo was a bit much, and the only one that kinda bugged me honestly) but I still enjoyed it, even if it was more like a fan-crossover parody, then a legit episode.
No offense, but people like you who complain about every kinda meme, or fandom in-joke are probably why they were afraid to put the Derpster in season 3…
@Beau Skunky
It’s literally thirty seconds of the script basically shouting, “HEY LOOK IT’S DERPY YOU LOVE DERPY DON’T YOU WELL HERE SHE IS DERPY DERPY DERPY”
If you showed that episode to someone who wasn’t as aware of the in-jokes as most bronies, they’d just be like, “what the fuck is going on?”
@GargantuanBass
I have a slightly higher opinion of the writing, but otherwise that strikes be as being about right.
I just wish the vocal minority that claims it’s the worst thing evar(except for EqG) or similar exaggerations would realize how stupid and assholish they sound and would tone it down a bit.
@Beau Skunky
Personally, I thought it had a lot of great potential, some decent animation, and great background music, but it’s awkward pacing, terrible reliance on brony references and in jokes, and awful script just brought it down.
I mean, that 30 second scene with Derpy is just painful to watch.
@GargantuanBass
Yeah, I guess it ended up being more like a fan-episode/parody, but I still enjoyed it. I think some people just had their hopes set to high.
Besides, it actually does have alot more “likes” then “dislikes” on Youtube. So not everyone hates it. People who dislike things just tend to be more louder, outspoken, and even annoying when it comes to voicing their dislike about something.
@Beau Skunky
All the negative responses are from how they claimed they would try to make it like a real episode, and when it was released, it was revealed to be absolutely nothing like that.
@Background Pony
To be honest, I kinda actually prefered the name Ditzy-Doo, (sense it kinda calls back to the “Winter Wrap-Up episode) but I never had anything against the name “Derpy” either. I don’t get why some hate “Ditzy-Doo” so much.
I don’t really get the hate-campaign against “Double Rainboom” either. It was a decent fan-animated project, (and a rather large one) and I found it enjoyable. I’ve seen worse fan animations/projects get endless praise.
Surprisingly, even Chad Rocco (who is pretty much soured with the MLP:FiM series now) enjoyed “Double Rainbooom.”
@Beau Skunky
The show staff is apparently not allowed to like the same things as bronies, or it’s pandering.
And I can understand not liking Double Rainboom, but I don’t understand the vicious hate campaign against it. You’d think Zachary Rich used the name “Ditzy Doo” or something.
@Prof.NightJack
I don’t get it either. Even some bronies are getting like that to. Some actually complained about the “pandering” in the show/comics, and the DJ cameo in E.G. (Which I thought was funny personally.) So even with cameos you can’t please everyone.
@ETech
I understand, but my point was these things require alot of work, and people to make, so you can’t really expect them to be “perfect,” or expect them to be actual movie-quality. Especially, when it’s non-profit like these.
Also, people can criticize, or not like stuff without overreacting, or just going, “Graaahhh it sux! Burn it! This is the worst thing ever!” like most do on the internet. (Or this site.)
It gets old.
@good background pony
My point was more that just having the cameos there isn’t a bad thing and some may be there because they want to be, so I don’t get why some seem to act like cameos are bad no matter what.
@Prof.NightJack
(i know this is a really late comment on this but) actually nightjack the cameo’s like avgn and nostalgia critic were just they’re but they were interested to be in a sonic fan film and if i recall doug and james aren’t sonic fan at all.
I wasn’t aware that the quality of a short, low-budget, fan film was of the same importance of who the president is, how entire countries are handled, and issues like genocidal dictators… Wow you sure showed me!
“Maybe if you guys tried to make your own “better” Sonic fan film, or MLP fan-episode, then maybe you’d see it’s not so easy to make such a huge project, and make it “perfect.””
Allow me to C&P from TV Tropes:
Just imagine if this were applied to all forms of criticism; “You think the president’s doing a bad job, and want to vote for the opposing candidate? How can you even say that when you’ve never been president?” “You think this cake tastes bad and it’s undercooked? How can you even say that when you’ve never been a chef?” “You think Hitler could have done a better job during World War II? How can you even say that when you’ve never been a leader of Germany who sparked a war and a Holocaust?” You clearly don’t have to be good at something yourself in order to be able to tell whether someone else is good or not.
Maybe they didn’t see the point in making new hands for a model that would only show up for a few seconds at the end. Lazy, but understandable.
Ya, I don’t get Knuckles having fingers….
And I agree about the second half of DR being pointless but I found it a little fun.
DR would’ve been okay, or even good, if they’d actually stuck to the story premise they’d promised: the Double Rainboom. All the previews were centered around that one event, yet it happens right in the middle of the story. What’s the second half? A circlejerking crossover with the Powerpuff Girls that has absolutely no effect on the actual story. It’s just ten minutes of pointless filler.
As for the Sonic movie, I haven’t watched it all the way through, but I think the CG robots were pretty cool, and Sonic looks…okay, though a little bit in the uncanny valley. And why in the world did Knuckles have fingers?!
That’s good, you see there was some enjoyable things to it, not just call it bad and that’s it.
To me both of these are about the same but the Sonic one was a little better, Double Rainboom was “meh” over all, maybe if it had less references in all I would see it better, the Sonic one had it’s cameos but it was just the people play as a part of the Sonic world, not going “oh hay it’s Doug Walker/James Rolfe/other” it’s just them in it.
I won’t be one of those guys and say it was a total waste. Like I said, it did have some genuinely good moments, but for me, the bad outweighed the good. I really did want to like it but…I just can’t.
I have seen a number of people saw how even the very short pop culture references in it was the reason it sucked and not Derpy being there, so there is no way to win them all.
You say that was the bad thing and other say it was a good thing, it’s just how things go, to me it’s all if it comes out with more good then bad, or more bad then good, but a lot of people think if there is something they see as bad in it, no matter if there is more good over all, then it sucks no matter what.
There’s a difference between a subtle shout out like placing her in the background or showing her for like a second, and having her on screen for a full half-a-minute trying to eat a muffin.
I don’t mind shout outs or in jokes or pop culture references, but two rules of thumb have to be followed to make them work; keep them short, and keep them subtle.
Well, that’s you’re opinion, I wasn’t bothered by it. It was kinda a cute moment, even if the visual gag with her eyes was a bit predictable, and admittedly done before. (In the official IDW comic, in fact. Though, to be fair this thing took over a year to make. So that was planned before the comic came out.)
Maybe it did go a bit overboard with the memes/in-jokes, (I admit the “trollface” cameo was a bit much, and the only one that kinda bugged me honestly) but I still enjoyed it, even if it was more like a fan-crossover parody, then a legit episode.
No offense, but people like you who complain about every kinda meme, or fandom in-joke are probably why they were afraid to put the Derpster in season 3…
It’s literally thirty seconds of the script basically shouting, “HEY LOOK IT’S DERPY YOU LOVE DERPY DON’T YOU WELL HERE SHE IS DERPY DERPY DERPY”
If you showed that episode to someone who wasn’t as aware of the in-jokes as most bronies, they’d just be like, “what the fuck is going on?”
I didn’t think it was “painful.”
I have a slightly higher opinion of the writing, but otherwise that strikes be as being about right.
I just wish the vocal minority that claims it’s the worst thing evar (except for EqG) or similar exaggerations would realize how stupid and assholish they sound and would tone it down a bit.
Personally, I thought it had a lot of great potential, some decent animation, and great background music, but it’s awkward pacing, terrible reliance on brony references and in jokes, and awful script just brought it down.
I mean, that 30 second scene with Derpy is just painful to watch.
Yeah, I guess it ended up being more like a fan-episode/parody, but I still enjoyed it. I think some people just had their hopes set to high.
Besides, it actually does have alot more “likes” then “dislikes” on Youtube. So not everyone hates it. People who dislike things just tend to be more louder, outspoken, and even annoying when it comes to voicing their dislike about something.
All the negative responses are from how they claimed they would try to make it like a real episode, and when it was released, it was revealed to be absolutely nothing like that.
To be honest, I kinda actually prefered the name Ditzy-Doo, (sense it kinda calls back to the “Winter Wrap-Up episode) but I never had anything against the name “Derpy” either. I don’t get why some hate “Ditzy-Doo” so much.
I don’t really get the hate-campaign against “Double Rainboom” either. It was a decent fan-animated project, (and a rather large one) and I found it enjoyable. I’ve seen worse fan animations/projects get endless praise.
Surprisingly, even Chad Rocco (who is pretty much soured with the MLP:FiM series now) enjoyed “Double Rainbooom.”
The show staff is apparently not allowed to like the same things as bronies, or it’s pandering.
And I can understand not liking Double Rainboom, but I don’t understand the vicious hate campaign against it. You’d think Zachary Rich used the name “Ditzy Doo” or something.
heck sonic in the games has tons of cameos ie: ray and nack and mighty in sonic generations has posters.
I don’t get it either. Even some bronies are getting like that to. Some actually complained about the “pandering” in the show/comics, and the DJ cameo in E.G. (Which I thought was funny personally.) So even with cameos you can’t please everyone.
@ETech
I understand, but my point was these things require alot of work, and people to make, so you can’t really expect them to be “perfect,” or expect them to be actual movie-quality. Especially, when it’s non-profit like these.
Also, people can criticize, or not like stuff without overreacting, or just going, “Graaahhh it sux! Burn it! This is the worst thing ever!” like most do on the internet. (Or this site.)
It gets old.
My point was more that just having the cameos there isn’t a bad thing and some may be there because they want to be, so I don’t get why some seem to act like cameos are bad no matter what.
(i know this is a really late comment on this but) actually nightjack the cameo’s like avgn and nostalgia critic were just they’re but they were interested to be in a sonic fan film and if i recall doug and james aren’t sonic fan at all.
Clearly you didn’t read the final sentence.
“Maybe if you guys tried to make your own “better” Sonic fan film, or MLP fan-episode, then maybe you’d see it’s not so easy to make such a huge project, and make it “perfect.””
Allow me to C&P from TV Tropes:
Just imagine if this were applied to all forms of criticism; “You think the president’s doing a bad job, and want to vote for the opposing candidate? How can you even say that when you’ve never been president?” “You think this cake tastes bad and it’s undercooked? How can you even say that when you’ve never been a chef?” “You think Hitler could have done a better job during World War II? How can you even say that when you’ve never been a leader of Germany who sparked a war and a Holocaust?” You clearly don’t have to be good at something yourself in order to be able to tell whether someone else is good or not.