I’ve got forty thousand French francs in my fridge.
I’ve got lots of lovely lire.
Now the Deutschmark’s getting dearer,
And my dollar bills would buy the Brooklyn Bridge.
@Urishima
Cronies have a vested interest in the appearance of being real capitalists.
Capitalism itself isn’t good; a tool is only as productive as the person using it. But capitalism is the surest means of rewarding the most creative people, the ones driven to success and achievement. There was a time when telephones were luxury items and it took 5 minutes to call someone relatively close to you, now they’re handheld computers, many of which are voice-operated, that can connect you with someone across the globe in a heartbeat. It wasn’t legislation that made this possible, it wasn’t a demand of the proletariat, it was the result of someone who looked at the then current model and said “I can do better.”
As for any waste, you need only find a use for it. Animal feces is a common fertilizer, for example.
/Uri
Who doesn’t believe that any way has the ultimate answer we need
So yeah, I know that.
Utlimately I think the problem in finding a good model to solve our problems lies in the fact that we allways think in labels. Capitalism, Communism, Sicialism, Marxism and so on. That of course limits our view, since many seem to think you can only have one or the other.
Human nature, I guess.
crony capitalism is actually a thing ;)
Whether or not capitalism will always lead to crony capitalism is of course a matter of debate.
One thing about capitalism as it is lived nowadays is, that it is focused on growth. Always better, always more, always bigger, people need to buy more, people need to produce more, people need to spend more money, people need to consume more…
To Quote:
“Anyone who believes in indefinite growth in anything physical, on a physically finite planet, is either mad or an economist.”
Kenneth E. Boulding
@Urishima
Communism fails everywhere its practiced. It only starts to look good once capitalism is implemented in one form or another, and then grows and begins to crowd out the communism.
@Urishima
The recent economic collapse was the result of the government promising the banks that they’d pay them back with taxpayer money for any house that couldn’t be paid off. But that’s not capitalism, it’s cronyism.
@Ripple_Shine
Well, all that banking crisis, horrendous unemployment rates, financial crisis, steep increase in prices for the most basic goods and entire countries going bancrupt must’ve just been in my head then.
I had the balls to let Baryshnikov dance, playa!
Torn down that wall like the Kool-Aid Man, oh yeah!
Reagan and McDonald’s
No doubt
If your name ends with ‘in’
Time to get out
…What? What do you mean wrong song?
Cronies have a vested interest in the appearance of being real capitalists.
Capitalism itself isn’t good; a tool is only as productive as the person using it. But capitalism is the surest means of rewarding the most creative people, the ones driven to success and achievement. There was a time when telephones were luxury items and it took 5 minutes to call someone relatively close to you, now they’re handheld computers, many of which are voice-operated, that can connect you with someone across the globe in a heartbeat. It wasn’t legislation that made this possible, it wasn’t a demand of the proletariat, it was the result of someone who looked at the then current model and said “I can do better.”
As for any waste, you need only find a use for it. Animal feces is a common fertilizer, for example.
To quote myself:
/Uri
Who doesn’t believe that any way has the ultimate answer we need
So yeah, I know that.
Utlimately I think the problem in finding a good model to solve our problems lies in the fact that we allways think in labels. Capitalism, Communism, Sicialism, Marxism and so on. That of course limits our view, since many seem to think you can only have one or the other.
Human nature, I guess.
@Ripple_Shine
crony capitalism is actually a thing ;)
Whether or not capitalism will always lead to crony capitalism is of course a matter of debate.
One thing about capitalism as it is lived nowadays is, that it is focused on growth. Always better, always more, always bigger, people need to buy more, people need to produce more, people need to spend more money, people need to consume more…
To Quote:
“Anyone who believes in indefinite growth in anything physical, on a physically finite planet, is either mad or an economist.”
Kenneth E. Boulding
I take the blame for starting something.
@Ripple_Shine
Did I start something? I didn’t mean to… but I was talking about Marxism not Communism.
Communism fails everywhere its practiced. It only starts to look good once capitalism is implemented in one form or another, and then grows and begins to crowd out the communism.
The recent economic collapse was the result of the government promising the banks that they’d pay them back with taxpayer money for any house that couldn’t be paid off. But that’s not capitalism, it’s cronyism.
Well, all that banking crisis, horrendous unemployment rates, financial crisis, steep increase in prices for the most basic goods and entire countries going bancrupt must’ve just been in my head then.
That’s nice to know :D
Actually, yes.
Because it worked out so well, right?
/Uri
Who doesn’t believe that any way has the ultimate answer we need
No thank you, I’ll keep my capitalism.
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