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Get. Out.
Well, that’s a bit out-of-scope for this discussion but I definitely see your point.
True. That’s another side to it. But it’s still a messed up way of thinking as I see it. Religious piety whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc tends to be about the idea that mankind is an immoral, feral creature without religion.
Yea sorry, that’s just… wrong.
Men can control themselves (otherwise every Muslim man in a western country would be a serial rapist).
Out of respect for the opposite sex, men are instructed to lower their gaze when near any women.
Again, the theme of modesty applies to both genders.
Wuuuuuut?
Just a hideously sexist way of thinking against men as well.
Indeed, so.
Yea I think its horrible anytime anyone uses religion (or any other belief) to subjugate and control another.
But I don’t think that’s the primary reason Muslim women wear a head scarf. I think they choose to do so on their own free will (and I would like to think that Muslimshy does so on her free will and is not forced by someone else to do so).
Sure. And the cultural sects of Islam that currently press the issue of a Jilbab such as Muslimshy here is wearing most heavily are those with an interest in using womens’ dress as a way to subjugate and control them. Context is indeed king, and whether Muslimshy is prescriptive or descriptive, it’s really not very cool in the context of the real world.
A lot of it also depends on the context of the verse, that’s just something to keep in mind.
Also the script is just to teach life lessons, but true people do use it to justify their own agenda and ideals. You can pretty much twist anything to suit your agenda (but that doesn’t necessarily make it right).
+1
You’re right, they don’t conflict. In fact, when you have verses advocating either pride or humility within the same scriptures, it makes it a lot easier to cherrypick certain ones to bolster your own personal position without appearing to deviate from the faith.
Even if I agreed with the religion/philosophy in question, I wouldn’t be a fan, whether it’s Muslim Fluttershy, Atheist Twilight, Hindu Dash, Catholic Pinkie, or whatever. Doubly so considering those things don’t exist in Equestria anyway.
@Goldenpwny
The problem isn’t the religion itself but rather those people that claim to follow the religion when they really do not. If “Muslims” actually followed their religion as they should, there wouldn’t be any women’s rights issues.
This is true of pretty much every religion; the core principles are almost always generally agreeable by most standards, but people always try to twist them to their advantage and bad stuff happens.
Burqa looks more like this
Kinda like ninjas with robes.
and I kid you not, there was a shop here selling a variant of those here and called it “ninja scarves”.
True Islam tells Muslims to have pride and dignity (especially in their faith and identity) but I don’t see how that renders the modesty rule as meaningless. They don’t necessarily conflict.
Just to clarify, Islam isan institution that provides women with the most rights, believe it or not. The problem isn’t the religion itself but rather those people that claim to follow the religion when they really do not. If “Muslims” actually followed their religion as they should, there wouldn’t be any women’s rights issues.
@Erebien
Yea, like I said there are many hypocritical “Muslims” out there. If Muslims actually followed their religion as they should we wouldn’t have nearly as much problems in the middle east (and elsewhere) as we do now.
To say that a certain religion specifically preaches modesty or humility, for example, is essentially meaningless. I can just as easily cherrypick quotes from the Quran and Hadith to claim that Islam advocates honor, integrity, and pride as opposed to modesty.
In the end, religions are just canvases upon which prevailing cultural attitudes are enforced justified. (Tatar women, for example, traditionally did not wear hijab except on weddings)
True that (muslim here) although in this day and age, I could say not THAT many Muslims are as humble and modest anymore, or hypocritical.
Still, doesn’t stop some men to keep finding their ideal Muslim waifu.
That’s fine in a context where Islam does not currently have a whole big pile of womens’ rights issues, but when you add in that context, it feels downright creepy.
I’m not gonna argue that the concept of the submissive Muslim woman permeates Western conceptions of Islam and Muslims, but whether or not Muslimshy reflects that ideology… I dunno, I hope not.
@Dale
With all due respect, I disagree with your statement. I think that depicting her as a Muslim is in an attempt to indicate how women should behave is overreaching the artist’s intentions. The reason I say this is that Islam preaches modesty and humbleness to both male and female Muslims alike. With this in mind, it is conceivable that Fluttershy’s shyness could be interpreted as modesty and allows for a depiction of Fluttershy that not only is interesting but also believable.
Bitch please.
I am the PRINCESS Celestia, which have brought thee into Equestria, out of the house of Windigoes.
Thou shalt have no other alicorns before me.
Oddly enough, I’m pretty sure that Celestia would smite anyone that tried to worship her.
Not sure about Luna, though.