Yah but try translating fluttershy in a “realistic” CGI form without her looking like a hellspawn

I only agree because I’m not attracted to standard humans. Not to imply all of us are furries. :T

@Techy Pony  
That’s what I was saying.

@Draco_2k  
“Personally, from what I’ve heard, most people were creeped the hell out by these things. Personal experience isn’t that reliable of a metric. It’s personal.”
 
In that case apparently your word is no better than mine. Whether or not people thought na’vi looked good, I know most people found the movie as a whole quite incredible.

@Techy Pony  
Well, that would be because no execution is perfect. But good art (on a technical level) appeals to more people than the bad, that’s what makes them different, and that difference is the only mark of success.
 
Personally, from what I’ve heard, most people were creeped the hell out by these things. Personal experience isn’t that reliable of a metric. It’s personal.

@Draco_2k  
You will never appeal to everyone, besides, from what I heard the prevailing impression is that people generally liked the design of the na’vi.

@Pinksy  
Haha!
 
Yeah, there’s been quite a few big breakthroughs over the decade, though most of them at a big cost. (As in: money.)

There’s a lot to be said for how CGI quality has increased over the last few years. Avatar just wouldn’t have been possible before 2009, even though it was in a sort of on/off state of production before that. I remember reading somewhere that when a guy from the animation team showed James Cameron the initial Na’vi design, maybe about five years before the movie was released, he was so horrified he literally started screaming profanities. I guess the wait was worth it.

@Techy Pony  
The job of a good artist is to appeal to all viewers regardless of the difference in their personal perception. It’s a purely technical skill.
 
Doing a good job of anthropomorphisation is no different to using the right colour or brushstroke, or picking the right camera angle and scene composition. Creating a character that appeals to most people as opposed only to those who are predisposed to view it in the positive light is what makes the job successful.
 
Art is not all subjective, that’s only a part of it. Otherwise people would like things at complete random.

@Draco_2k  
How can you simultaneously say this “The difference is that people have different tolerance in regard to the uncanny valley…” and the say that they utterly failed? For you it’s in the uncanny valley, for many others it’s not. (myself included)

……weidest thing isn’t iot. me, no like furry or bestiality……… yet the ponies on the other hand i do not…. think of as that.

@Techy Pony  
Nah, they sure did. It’s all in the design.
 
The difference is that people have different tolerance in regard to the uncanny valley, which is the same reason while some people can be freaked out by animal mascots of furry arts while others think it’s fine.
 
They don’t know the reason, but we know this relates to willing suspension of disbelief. The test of acceptable human-like character is either in moving this barrier (through stylization or move towards detailed but inherently inhuman patterns) or through careful tip-toeing around the embedded facial recognition patterns inherent to all humans.
 
Na’vi are so deep in the uncanny valley it’s not even funny. The reason for that is blatant copy-pasting of human features onto a poorly-executed CGI construct in disregard of mitigation principles mentioned above. It would have failed even if they used CGI characters that were “real” humans rendered in CGI.

@Draco_2k  
Well obviously the Na’vi aren’t appealing to everyone just as ponies aren’t appealing to everyone. Them failing to make you find them attractive doesn’t mean they failed all around.

Well, to be fair, that’s only because Avatar designers failed at the task in such a spectacular manner.
 
Brrrr. I can barely even look at those things.
 
What, was approaching a random furry artist on the net too hard or embarrassing? They could show you the world…

Actually, we’ve decided not to care what you think OP the duck! To be honest, I thought this would be something like Arthur and the Minimoys.

OP has got a point.

@PonyPon  
@Mhountsword  
Ponies easily avoid the Uncanny Valley, which was one of the major stumbling blocks in designing the Na’vi.

Well they succeeded. Neytiri is hot.

It’s harder to make 3D character look appealing.

I don’t get it .-.

What?