@Princess♠Molestia  
I prefer Rapunzel. ♥

@Background Pony #5013  
Maybe it was meant as a more light-hearted troll then? I mean, trolling isn’t always to cause maximum destruction and butthurt, sometimes you just to get a little rise out of someone, jimmies a lite rustling.  
Well one thing is for sure, this has gone big no matter what the intentions were.
 
@Muffen-Man  
Ok so I lost my work due to system update, so I tried fairly unsucessfully to keep this short.
 
As I was on before, Elsa’s relatability through her characterization is no where near on the level which would have the audience experiencing ‘Let it Go’ on a higher level, which is why it falls short of ‘This Day Aria.’ There was no build for the audience to understand Elsa’s motives outside of the pity we feel for her with her “this monster in me” situation she has with her powers and the “Disney Princess status” which in this movie is used as a cop-out by the writing to aid the absent-build shortcoming rather than being treated as the stigma which “princess movies” must overcome these days in order to be original.
 
How can the audience understand the motivation of poor decisions by a two-dimensional shut-in girl whose character isn’t even affected by that heavily influential event of being a social recluse for the majority of her life? Where is the connection made? (The reclusion in itself was poorly written in the name of the storyline.) They stuck with the base characterization of “oh, she’s a princess with princessy problems!” to try to give bearing as to why she would errantly think why walking off and letting her powers manifest in a way that gave away her position was a good plan in the first place, making it painfully obvious just how campy this movie is to that fact. But I’ll hit that later, I’m digressing as it is.
 
The severe disconnects and “Disney Princess” base characterization going into the song render any characterization the song itself attempts to build as flat-footed. It’s a nice song with interesting context, but it does not bring relatable and meaningful context to make it an experience. Foreshadowing all the things she is going to learn in fact exposes that campy aspect I mentioned previously, she’s just spelling out the stereotype of how she’s going to go wrong, compounded by the fact that doing so made for a rather obvious story since we all know that things are going to turn out alright in lieu of anything telling us this story wasn’t on rails.
 
The vocal talent picks up 100% of why the song is so popular.
 
‘This Day Aria’ showcases the art of expression just as much as “Let it Go” does. It is not the same as contrived vocalization of feelings. The difference and separating factor between ‘This Day Aria’ and ‘Let it Go’ is that ‘This Day Aria’ had a strong foundation to work off of with Pt. 1, while ‘Let it Go’ had to work off of poor writing of character supplemented with a popular, fan-favorite stereotype.

@Muffen-Man  
I wasn’t even trolling. I thought the image sounded funny.

Sorry Cadence. Gonna go with Elsa. She’s hot.

I don’t see This Day Aria topping the Billboard 100s or being played on hit radio stations. And before you say “it’s because it’s DISNEY”,that’s false because that is the first time a Disney song has ever done that. I laugh when sub par brands attempt to be like Disney. It’s not going to happen lol

@Background Pony #AD8C  
These things happen when you say something highly debatable, whether to troll or not.  
@Wryte  
We’ll finish up soon as I’m done with finals.

@Background Pony #AD8C  
This post was going to be perfect  
The kind of joke of which I dreamed since I was small  
But instead of having LOLs  
With all my online pony-bros  
The comments have all gripped the conflict ball!

@Background Pony #AD8C  
because the internet

I posted this to be silly, why are people arguing?

@DJDerpy2013  
IMO, Discord’s song sucked.

I prefer Glass of water.

@Muffen-Man  
How is it not crystal clear where Elsa is coming from? Every scene Elsa has between the moment she hits Anna with ice as children and the first line of LiG is clearly showing that she’s terrified both of hurting people with her powers, and being hurt by others because of her powers. Elsa’s entire worldview up until that point is clearly one of self-denial, if not outright self-rejection, which upon her crowning then extends to denying happiness to those around her as demonstrated by her rejecting Anna twice, once over keeping the gates open after the party, and again over her marriage plans (which at the time seemed par for the course for the film’s genre). But, when the secret gets out and she runs away to the mountains, her reasons for rejecting herself are gone. The extremity of her isolation means there’s seemingly no one for her to hurt, and no one to hurt her, so she finally allows herself to embrace her powers. If this wasn’t crystal clear to you, you were in the bathroom for the first twenty minutes of the movie. :P
 
But back to the song itself. By finally accepting who she is and ending her self-rejection, she’s made a big step toward actually solving her problems instead of perpetuating them, but she’s only halfway there; she still needs to realize that running away has hurt the very people she wanted to protect. This is why LiG is this big, bombastic ode to the joys of self-acceptance and freedom, but also sows seeds of doubt with many of its lines.
 
The line you pointed out, where she’s only replaced one kind of isolation and secrecy with another, as well as lines like, “No right, no wrong/No rules for me,” and “Let the storm rage on,” hinting at the danger that Elsa’s self-empowerment carries a risk of going too far and making her selfish and destructive, and lines that are flatly contradicted by later events, like “Here I stand/And here I’ll stay,” and “I’m never going back,” both of which prove to be false when she is forcibly taken back to Arendell, and ultimately chooses to stay there. Neither Elsa nor the audience may recognize the importance of these lines at the time, but they’ve done their job on a subconscious level and both set up red herrings (Elsa turning evil) and prepared the audience for later events (realizing that isolation isn’t the answer and going home). LiG works beautifully as both an anthem of self-empowerment, and as a device for establishing a major turn in a character’s arc, foreshadowing future events, and misdirecting the audience away from realizing an upcoming twist too early. The song is multilayered, and it works on all of them.
 
This Day Aria, on the other hand, is two minutes of repeating the same two facts: Cadance loves Shining Armor, and the imposter doesn’t, but is marrying him anyway. If it’s a villain song, it’s a total failure as one, because it establishes nothing about the imposter’s plan, motives, or even identity, and Cadance only comes off slightly better because it’s the first thing she does in the entire show outside of a flashback from Twilight, so it can’t help but establish a bare minimum of characterization.
 
Unfortunately, that bare minimum of characterization is that she’s totally in love with Shining Armor, which isn’t exactly breaking the mold on what I was expecting from a character being introduced out of nowhere in her own wedding episode, and isn’t exactly inspiring of confidence in the character’s continued relevance or potential (Don’t get me wrong, I’m pleased to have been proven wrong on that last count, and I love Cadance now, but it was Crystal Empire that changed my mind, not anything in Canterlot Wedding.). Aria only has one layer, and it doesn’t even work on that.
 
Also, the lyrics make the robot devil feel angry.

@Wryte  
Seeing the error of their ways later on is a staple of plenty of good characters in many good stories, but when you can’t see where the character is coming from when they make the inital mistake, the audience is lost in translation. It’s not good storytelling.
 
@Judeau  
You put all these fandoms in their place and then raise Eva up to some kind of pedestal? Edgy =/= deep. And I get that we need to keep perspective since we’re talking about pastel ponies here, but we’re not talking about headcanons, or timelines, or what-if’s, or anything truly deep, this is about identifying with characters through the show’s storytelling. This Day Aria was complex by it’s situation and delivery, but it was not deep, it didn’t need to be to make you feel it.

It’s weird being the only person in the entire fandom who thinks This Day Aria sucked. :/
 
Also:
 
“sings about how she doesn’t have to hide it any more as though running off to isolate herself again isn’t in direct contradiction to that sentiment.”
 
…well yeah, that’s the whole point. Almost everything Elsa sings about in Let It Go is contradicted sooner or later, and that’s completely intentional because part of the movie’s message is that isolation was just making things worse for her and everyone around her, whether she was locking herself in her room or on a distant mountain top.
 
Next you’ll complain that Love is an Open Door was contradicted by Hans turning out to be evil. :P

I prefer smile, smile, smile.

i prefer art of the dress

@Evowizard25  
except its not subtle, its overanalyzing something that is not for analyzing to that kind of degree, and theres nothing really going on in MLP FIM on the scale lots of people like yourself claim it does, its not grand, its not “epic” its just a nice show. The characters are all 2d, they are very good 2d characters though, not bland. But they aren’t these deep pscyhological great complexity characters on par with evangelion or some shit like that. Whovians and potterfags and bronies and adventure time nuts need to chill with the taking their childrens programming too seriously.

@Judeau  
Err… no.
 
The Little Mermaid had the villain near the end of the movie take her place because she wanted Ariel to fail.
 
Chrysalis took Cadance’s place so she could invade the country and use the citizens as a food source. Much more epic and was happening throughout the episode.
 
And dopplegangers aren’t exactly exclusive to both of them, as other shows have them and even myths.
 
So no, it’s not a rip off. There are similarities, but honestly, This Day Aria was much more complex and brilliant then your description lets on.
 
And it’s fun and engaging to anylize a show.

so much looking deeply into shows/movies that arent deep, it is hilarious how people take their childrens programming a million times too seriously, now granted disney does make good songs like HELLFIRE that are actually deep and complex for the character, this day aria does not do anythign besides “oh no gonna miss my wedding better rip off little mermaid” the wedding episodes in a nutshell are little mermaid rip off, its hilarious

When you listen to Elsa sing “Let it Go,” do you hear the emotion of her situation, or just the emotion of her voice?  
She as a character is not set up well: just some girl who essentially has ice-bending powers for some reason, living in a huge house well-off enough to seal herself in her room for like a decade. There’s no build to her character, they just took a girl, gave her strange powers and a princess label. And then she freaks out at the sister she hasn’t seen in a decade as though she has any social sense to know better, runs off to the mountain tops and sings about how she doesn’t have to hide it any more as though running off to isolate herself again isn’t in direct contradiction to that sentiment. All of these things work against her identity as a character, makes it difficult for us to understand her situation and feel the song from her perspective, which is why the song doesn’t reach that level of greatness so many people try to give it.
 
What was impressive about This Day Aria was how well the situation rolled with only A Canterlot Wedding Pt. 1 to build from. Shiny and Cadence were built (enough, anyway) to allow us to understand Cadence’s stress and urgency.
 
Also, I see a lot of people labeling it a “villian song” which does not do it justice since it was between both good and evil and was seamless despite that complex concept.

@fixman88  
No, it already sucked. This Day Aria is popular as fuck in the community especially when it first came out and it’s still fucking awesome!

@Background Pony #F88F  
TV Tropes/It’s Popular Now It Sucks.

@anonymouspegasus  
Irrelevant. They still didn’t make the song itself. They made the visuals to accompany it. Completely different.

@Background Pony #F88F  
Part of musicals, especially when considering that a song has to be woven into a plot, is visuals. The animation company might not make the song, but it has to make the visuals to match the song. If a good song has shitty visuals, the song itself suffers.

Let It Go is so fucking overrated and shitty! This Day Aria is perfect!
 
Also, the animation company didn’t make the song.