@Randomosaur
It’s adorable that you think that constitutes a useful comeback to the smackdown you received, but James Watson and Maurice Wilkins in fact stole the fsck out of Rosalind Franklin’s research; Watson had been furiously working on DNA structure for years (and getting it wrong over and over, by the way) but it wasn’t until Crick dishonestly stole Franklin’s X-ray crystallography photos and gave them to Watson– who was Franklin’s direct competitor in DNA research– that he maaagically came to the sudden realization of the double helix.
@TexasUberAlles
Science fiction is not science.
James Watson was the one who discovered the structure of DNA.
Francoise didn’t discover HIV by herself, she discovered it with Luc Montagnier.
@Amethyst_Crystal
Oh, the Noble Dragon Code was totally a reaction to the jerkass teenager Dragons; he was asserting his right to step up and define himself instead of letting others tell him who to be. And all of his friends went along with that even though they thought what he was doing was a bad idea. Listen to them talk in SAYS like they all know what and how important a Dragon Code is; clearly none of them had ever heard of such a thing, but they could see how important it was to him, so they all played along.
And man, Spike straight up shuttin’ CrayCray RaRa down like that was huge for him as a character; he showed he was more than just a collection of quirks on a character bio, he was a genuine friend who went along with something that was important to Rarity– just like they had done for him– until she got seriously destructive with it, at which point he pulled the plug on it for her own good. He made the very hard choice to burn his bridges with her if that’s what it took to keep her from destroying herself, which is more mature than a lot of the adults in town have been throughout the series.
This ‘womens’ equality & recognition’ stuff is great and all, but…
Spike’s character building has nothing to do with that.
Surprised no-one went into a peer pressure or generic morality debate instead.
On topic:
This is arguably Spike’s most impressive moment in the whole show, defining his own morality and ethics in the face of (comparative) elders of his tribe?
Tied with being able to say ‘no’ to Rarity two seasons later.
Also: maybe his ‘Dragon Code’ was a reaction to this experience of ‘traditional’ dragon ethics.
@Randomosaur
I realize you have a duck badge, but still. The reason you don’t see women’s achievements in fields like that pop up as much in earlier history is because until relatively recent times women seldom had the rights or freedom to study in fields like that or even to choose their own paths in life and make many of their own decisions. Historically a woman could generally expect little in life beyond marrying or being married off young and then having and raising children and tending to the needs of family. It’s only within the last hundred years or so that things have been substantially different, at least in most western societies and some others… a lot of the rest of the world is finally starting to catch up at this point though.
Ada Lovelace- Wrote the first computer algorithm/program Grace Hopper- Invented the first compiler and COBOL, the first programming language Maria Gaetana Agnesi- Literally wrote the book on differential and integral calculus Rosalind Franklin- Discovered the structure of DNA Irène Joliot-Curie- Discovered artificial radioactivity Hedy Lamarr- Invented frequency hopping that makes cell phones possible Cecilia Payne- Discovered the chemical composition of stars Annie Jump Cannon- Developed the standard system of classifying stars Henrietta Swan Leavitt- Developed way to determine the distance of stars from Earth Jocelyn Bell Burnell- Discovered pulsars Jeanne Villepreux-Power- Invented aquariums Dorothy Hodgkin- Developed X-ray crystallography and protein crystallography Virginia Apgar- Developed postnatal testing procedures and promoted Rh testing and vaccinations that have saved millions of infants’ and mothers’ lives Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley- Invented Science Fiction Maria Goeppert-Mayer- Developed the Nuclear Shell Model Chien Shiung Wu- Developed uranium enrichment procedures, helped build the first atomic bombs and literally changed the laws of physics by disproving The Parity Law Xi Ling Shi- Invented silk Stephanie Kwolek- Invented Kevlar Janet Rowley- Discovered that cancer can be genetic Yvonne Brill- Invented the thrust control system that keeps satellites in orbit Ruth Benerito- Invented permanent press cotton Alice Ball- Developed the first effective treatment for leprosy Candace Pert- First identified opiate receptors in the brain Esther Lederberg- Discovered a virus that made possible the study of viral biology and gene recombination Barbara Mclintock- Discovered that genetic information transposes from one chromosome to another Françoise Barré-Sinoussi- Discovered HIV Flossie Wong-Staal- First to clone HIV, part of the team that identified it as the source of AIDS Elizabeth Holmes- Developed a system to run 30 different tests on a single drop of blood Gerty Theresa Cori- Determined how the body breaks down carbohydrates Rosalyn Sussman Yalow- Developed the radioimmunoassay techniques essential in testing for cancer and testing donated blood Gertrude B. Elion- Developed immunosuppressant drugs vital for organ transplant and cancer treatment Linda B. Buck- Discovered how the olfactory system works Ada E. Yonath- Pioneered bio-crystallography
…I could go on, if you like– you are extremely wrong about this.
@TexasUberAlles
Most of the people who contributed significantly to scientific progress and technology were men. Archimedes, Newton, Einstein, Aristotle, Cuvier, Pasteur, Linnaeus, Darwin, Watson (the last name of the man who discovered the structure of DNA), Gates, Jobs, to name a few. The only two women who contributed so significantly were Mary Curie and Mary Anning.
And the reason why woman haven’t started many wars is because most country leaders are men.
@Randomosaur
“Rightfully”? How many wars have women started?
…This isn’t another one of your “Crossdressing Hitler” fanfics, is it? I thought Interpol made you stop posting those because they were creeping out Belgium so much.
@TexasUberAlles
Y’know, you have a point. (For once. Hehe) ;)
Strangely, there is a very small amount of people who do try to say MLP:FiM is “sexist” against males… At which point I facepalm…
They forget this is a girl’s show, which is why it focuses on the female characters.
That doesn’t mean it’s somehow discriminating against males…
Be glad Spike gets as much focus as he does, and actually has his own episodes.
(That’s more then some side-females like Celestia, Luna, or Cheerilee have had. The closest thing to a Cheerilee ep’ was “Hearts & Hooves Day,” but overall it was more of a CMC ep’. Luna had “Luna Eclipsed,” but the ep’ seemed also focused on Twilight.)
@TexasUberAlles
Its even more sad when you’re a girl as the entirety (well, most of) the internet has everything written from a male perspective, whether you like it or not.
Don’t like boobs? Too bad, here’s some anyway, shoved into your screen to stare at!
Thank you, anonymous internet website place thing, just the thing I wanted to see, sure.
Words typed out and pronouns assuming everyone on the internet is male no matter what.
etc etc
@hentaispyder
Ah, yes, the tragic underrepresentation of male characters in children’s media; truly the most pressing issue of our time. If only there were somewhere to see shows, movies, comics, novels, or websites that presented life from a male point of view.
@Amethyst_Crystal
Yeah, plus he was kinda a “woobie” in “Power Ponies,” and “Equestria Games” when he was starting to doubt himself, and feel bad, but he came through in the end of both episodes. (His geeky knowledge of the Power Ponies also kinda helped to.)
So I don’t get why some feel he was so mistreated in S4.
@hentaispyder @Beau Skunky
Previous post’s pic shows that Spike is influenced in positive ways by Twilight Sparkle.
Spike also has his own positive qualities too.
I don’t think he’s been retconned though.
I need to get better at this ‘one reply at a time’ thing!
@hentaispyder
…Please don’t start that Spike Justice Warrior stuff.
Spike’s always had his moments of being reasonable, and other moments where he was a klutz, or tactless… Heck he was kind a jerk in “Winter Wrap-Up.” Yet, he’s still sweet, and smart at times to, dispite his flaws, or being the butt of a gag.
All the characters have done good, or bad things, and had good/bad things happen to them. (Even Twilight.) That’s why we like them…
Then he was quickly retconed, as Spike now had too MUCH character development. Heaven forbid a male character is shown in a positive light, or someone is shown to have knowledge beyond their years. That last part would take away from Twilight whose sole purpose at the start of the show was the exact same thing. Because why would someone raised by someone else share similar experiences.
My Little Fortress 2: Left 4 Eggs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4JPknL_WA8
“Say WHAT?”
“I said no!”
“Pull yer head out of your ass!”
It’s adorable that you think that constitutes a useful comeback to the smackdown you received, but James Watson and Maurice Wilkins in fact stole the fsck out of Rosalind Franklin’s research; Watson had been furiously working on DNA structure for years (and getting it wrong over and over, by the way) but it wasn’t until Crick dishonestly stole Franklin’s X-ray crystallography photos and gave them to Watson– who was Franklin’s direct competitor in DNA research– that he maaagically came to the sudden realization of the double helix.
Science fiction is not science.
James Watson was the one who discovered the structure of DNA.
Francoise didn’t discover HIV by herself, she discovered it with Luc Montagnier.
Oh, the Noble Dragon Code was totally a reaction to the jerkass teenager Dragons; he was asserting his right to step up and define himself instead of letting others tell him who to be. And all of his friends went along with that even though they thought what he was doing was a bad idea. Listen to them talk in SAYS like they all know what and how important a Dragon Code is; clearly none of them had ever heard of such a thing, but they could see how important it was to him, so they all played along.
And man, Spike straight up shuttin’ CrayCray RaRa down like that was huge for him as a character; he showed he was more than just a collection of quirks on a character bio, he was a genuine friend who went along with something that was important to Rarity– just like they had done for him– until she got seriously destructive with it, at which point he pulled the plug on it for her own good. He made the very hard choice to burn his bridges with her if that’s what it took to keep her from destroying herself, which is more mature than a lot of the adults in town have been throughout the series.
Spike’s character building has nothing to do with that.
Surprised no-one went into a peer pressure or generic morality debate instead.
On topic:
This is arguably Spike’s most impressive moment in the whole show, defining his own morality and ethics in the face of (comparative) elders of his tribe?
Tied with being able to say ‘no’ to Rarity two seasons later.
Also: maybe his ‘Dragon Code’ was a reaction to this experience of ‘traditional’ dragon ethics.
I realize you have a duck badge, but still. The reason you don’t see women’s achievements in fields like that pop up as much in earlier history is because until relatively recent times women seldom had the rights or freedom to study in fields like that or even to choose their own paths in life and make many of their own decisions. Historically a woman could generally expect little in life beyond marrying or being married off young and then having and raising children and tending to the needs of family. It’s only within the last hundred years or so that things have been substantially different, at least in most western societies and some others… a lot of the rest of the world is finally starting to catch up at this point though.
You, uh… left out a few.
Ada Lovelace- Wrote the first computer algorithm/program
Grace Hopper- Invented the first compiler and COBOL, the first programming language
Maria Gaetana Agnesi- Literally wrote the book on differential and integral calculus
Rosalind Franklin- Discovered the structure of DNA
Irène Joliot-Curie- Discovered artificial radioactivity
Hedy Lamarr- Invented frequency hopping that makes cell phones possible
Cecilia Payne- Discovered the chemical composition of stars
Annie Jump Cannon- Developed the standard system of classifying stars
Henrietta Swan Leavitt- Developed way to determine the distance of stars from Earth
Jocelyn Bell Burnell- Discovered pulsars
Jeanne Villepreux-Power- Invented aquariums
Dorothy Hodgkin- Developed X-ray crystallography and protein crystallography
Virginia Apgar- Developed postnatal testing procedures and promoted Rh testing and vaccinations that have saved millions of infants’ and mothers’ lives
Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley- Invented Science Fiction
Maria Goeppert-Mayer- Developed the Nuclear Shell Model
Chien Shiung Wu- Developed uranium enrichment procedures, helped build the first atomic bombs and literally changed the laws of physics by disproving The Parity Law
Xi Ling Shi- Invented silk
Stephanie Kwolek- Invented Kevlar
Janet Rowley- Discovered that cancer can be genetic
Yvonne Brill- Invented the thrust control system that keeps satellites in orbit
Ruth Benerito- Invented permanent press cotton
Alice Ball- Developed the first effective treatment for leprosy
Candace Pert- First identified opiate receptors in the brain
Esther Lederberg- Discovered a virus that made possible the study of viral biology and gene recombination
Barbara Mclintock- Discovered that genetic information transposes from one chromosome to another
Françoise Barré-Sinoussi- Discovered HIV
Flossie Wong-Staal- First to clone HIV, part of the team that identified it as the source of AIDS
Elizabeth Holmes- Developed a system to run 30 different tests on a single drop of blood
Gerty Theresa Cori- Determined how the body breaks down carbohydrates
Rosalyn Sussman Yalow- Developed the radioimmunoassay techniques essential in testing for cancer and testing donated blood
Gertrude B. Elion- Developed immunosuppressant drugs vital for organ transplant and cancer treatment
Linda B. Buck- Discovered how the olfactory system works
Ada E. Yonath- Pioneered bio-crystallography
…I could go on, if you like– you are extremely wrong about this.
Most of the people who contributed significantly to scientific progress and technology were men. Archimedes, Newton, Einstein, Aristotle, Cuvier, Pasteur, Linnaeus, Darwin, Watson (the last name of the man who discovered the structure of DNA), Gates, Jobs, to name a few. The only two women who contributed so significantly were Mary Curie and Mary Anning.
And the reason why woman haven’t started many wars is because most country leaders are men.
“Rightfully”? How many wars have women started?
…This isn’t another one of your “Crossdressing Hitler” fanfics, is it? I thought Interpol made you stop posting those because they were creeping out Belgium so much.
Sorry, but the internet and most of the world are still rightfully influenced mostly by men.
Go to tumblr. You’ll love it there.
Y’know, you have a point.
Y’know, you have a point. (For once. Hehe) ;)
Strangely, there is a very small amount of people who do try to say MLP:FiM is “sexist” against males… At which point I facepalm…
They forget this is a girl’s show, which is why it focuses on the female characters.
That doesn’t mean it’s somehow discriminating against males…
Be glad Spike gets as much focus as he does, and actually has his own episodes.
(That’s more then some side-females like Celestia, Luna, or Cheerilee have had. The closest thing to a Cheerilee ep’ was “Hearts & Hooves Day,” but overall it was more of a CMC ep’. Luna had “Luna Eclipsed,” but the ep’ seemed also focused on Twilight.)
Its even more sad when you’re a girl as the entirety (well, most of) the internet has everything written from a male perspective, whether you like it or not.
Don’t like boobs? Too bad, here’s some anyway, shoved into your screen to stare at!
Thank you, anonymous internet website place thing, just the thing I wanted to see, sure.
Words typed out and pronouns assuming everyone on the internet is male no matter what.
etc etc
@hentaispyder
Ah, yes, the tragic underrepresentation of male characters in children’s media; truly the most pressing issue of our time. If only there were somewhere to see shows, movies, comics, novels, or websites that presented life from a male point of view.
hentaispyder does have a point. He really hasn’t had any real character development since season 2.
Yeah, plus he was kinda a “woobie” in “Power Ponies,” and “Equestria Games” when he was starting to doubt himself, and feel bad, but he came through in the end of both episodes. (His geeky knowledge of the Power Ponies also kinda helped to.)
So I don’t get why some feel he was so mistreated in S4.
@Beau Skunky
Previous post’s pic shows that Spike is influenced in positive ways by Twilight Sparkle.
Spike also has his own positive qualities too.
I don’t think he’s been retconned though.
I need to get better at this ‘one reply at a time’ thing!
…Please don’t start that Spike Justice Warrior stuff.
Spike’s always had his moments of being reasonable, and other moments where he was a klutz, or tactless… Heck he was kind a jerk in “Winter Wrap-Up.” Yet, he’s still sweet, and smart at times to, dispite his flaws, or being the butt of a gag.
All the characters have done good, or bad things, and had good/bad things happen to them. (Even Twilight.) That’s why we like them…