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Fuck me double comment.
bang, bang
HaHA, You camp arranging fiend!
I place money that it was not in your knowledge that I could wield the Ambassador to…
both shots missed
…nuts.
bang, bang
HaHA, You camp arranging fiend!
I place money that it was not in your knowledge that I could wield the Ambassador to…
both shots missed
…nuts.
Where are you?!? I have my anti-spy backstabbing shield on and I’m not afraid to use it!
‘Cause I don’t know how!
bang
Dead ringer!
Whoops. My memory’s playing tricks on me…
The bacon thing was a fan animation, it wasn’t in the movie. I also don’t think Fluttershy is a vegan. Vegetarian perhaps, but even she doesn’t take things that far, I’d wager.
Eating fish and chicken, but not talking-back-home meats? I could definitely see that.
Twi was definitely munching on bacon and steak early in the movie, but if she was eating a greenish burger, it must have been a veggie one – Canterlot High is opulently funded, and I wouldn’t imagine even an ordinary school to have that kind of quality-control issue. A switch to veggie burgers means that under the hood, she discovered what she’d done, perhaps hyperventilated about it, and made sure not to do it again – further showing how much care went into this movie in obscure places and under-the-hood areas!
Come to think of it, didn’t she and Fluttershy take greenish-looking burgers from the same place in the cafeteria, in Rainbow Rocks? And Human Fluttershy is probably a vegan, more serious about avoiding harm to animals than even pony Fluttershy, who surely eats milk and eggs (and feeds worms to birds, and fish to furry animals).
@Scrounge
@PonyPon
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The Sirens eating just about anything? That’s a really interesting idea, and I think it has a lot of support. It certainly fits with what their Equestrian forms look like!
I suspect with the sirens, it might have been the opposite problem, and they didn’t know what animals not to eat, humans potentially included.
Why wouldn’t a massive monster seahorse be comfortable with meat?
I bet, first time she had one: “MmmMm! Better than drowning pony!”
I think either of might be able to adjust to meats that didn’t talk back home while in human form, such as fish or chicken. And if I recall correctly, the burger Twi ate was a bit greenish, and if so, that hopefully meant it was a veggie burger, rather than implying it had been shoved in the back of the fridge for too long. The “TACO TUESDAY!” poster, on the other hand, seems to show tacos with obviously real meat, suggesting that Sonata is comfortable eating people. :)
Absolutely. Twilight’s going to have it really bad when she finds out that she ate Soylent Brown and loved it (thus why I think Sunset would be a vegetarian), but it really does look like Sunset, possibly being distracted by taking pains to avoid eating anyone, ended up wearing somebody’s skin…
Of course, her jacket could be pleather or something, but that’s the cheap way out. :)
It gets worse. Remember, where she comes from, cows are people.
Now I need a Sunset Shimmer “oh, snap” emote… :)
(Though she apparently didn’t find out where leather comes from.)
I hope you do, and I hope you like the movie more as a result!
I love teasing out implications and discovering that the writers were aware of them too; and I find it wonderful when authors remember that their characters’ assumptions are going to be wrong. I’ve talked a lot about Sunset Shimmer’s moments like this, but Twilight Sparkle had a lot of them too; I loved her human galloping, her disdain for hands, her decision to check the castle first…
It was also interesting to see how completely humans didn’t register as monkeys to her. I’d been conditioned to assume that they would, partially by Rainbow Dash Presents and fanfics, but Twilight hadn’t had that conditioning, and so she came to very different conclusions!
(Also, I headcanon that Sunset Shimmer managed to find out about certain human foods, early enough that she avoided accidentally becoming a carnivore. A vegetarian diet with milk and eggs is as nutritionally complete for humans as it is for ponies, so this wouldn’t have been a problem.)
Interesting analysis, I’ll have to try rewatching the movie in that light at some point.
Wait a second – she said that?!
(Re-watches the climax)
Whoa, you’re right!
I also noticed that Sunset doesn’t really seem to have a script for what happens after Twilight calls her bluff at the portal. She’s standing there diffidently, having just tossed around a sledgehammer like it was a children’s toy, and what sets her off is the Humane Five praising Twilight’s leadership and heroism – the sort of things she wanted to hear herself.
I also noticed that she really wasn’t expecting the crown to do that. She definitely wanted power, but when it started transforming her she hunkered down, looking horrified, possibly trying to take it off, and her tears were flowing – fear? pain? surprise? dread at what Princess Celestia was going to think? – in the close-up just before she transformed.
Her demon form seems to have the same relationship to her natural personality as Nightmare Moon had to Princess Luna – infinitely less moral and more willing to do evil, but, disturbingly, still recognizably cut from the same cloth.
By the way, as a note to the haters, I once heard the theory that Equestria Girls is a dream Twilight has on the night before the Princess Summit. The movie does click very well with Twilight’s concerns as a new princess, and the action does begin with Twilight asleep; headcanoning this might make Equestria Girls easier to swallow.
Of course, Rainbow Rocks torpedoes the idea, but maybe it was a stress-induced hallucination brought on by Twilight losing her library. :P
Speaking of headcanons, I suspect that the Equestrian word “princess” also just means “ruler”, especially “sovereign ruler”. (Did Sunset think she’d been given despotic powers over the Fall Formal? Probably.) Medieval jurists would have spoken of the USA as electing a king every four years; Equestrian jurists would speak of us as electing a princess.
I apologize for the mental image of Gerald Ford or Richard Nixon in a frilly, lacy pink dress, though. … No, never mind. I really don’t. :)
(Also, apologies to everyone for the triple post…)
By the way – thanks! Seeing support like this makes my day. :)
To begin with, I’m not offended or angered by your post. I think you need to give the movie a careful, open watching; Sunset is playing a high school queen-bee, but she’s not doing an especially good job of it, because of the things I mentioned below. Note how often she gets exasperated, how careless she is about “the masquerade”, and, again, how badly she handles the climax – all her efforts having failed, she resorts to bluffing, and Twilight calls her bluffs. (She calls her own bluff when it comes to Spike.) Come to think of it, she doesn’t even form a proper “girl posse” – she settles for the ridiculous Snips and Snails as minions, because it’s really about her, about her position and status, and she’ll settle for any minions who come to hand instead of going out of her way to cultivate them.
Remember, too, how ironic her dead-seriousness about ruling this world and her coronation are. She’s a teenager who’s expecting to have an honor at a school dance, and she’s talking about it as if she were the ruler of the planet. She really hasn’t figured it out yet.
For Sunset wanting to be a leader, that was called to my attention by a comment here regarding the fridge scene in Rainbow Rocks. Remember how Sunset’s wistful about how nice it must be for Twilight to have everyone looking to her for a solution, instead of expecting her to be the problem again. Twilight doesn’t share that enthusiasm, of course – but Sunset not only does like the thought of leadership, she assumes Twilight does, too.
As said, I don’t know high-school movies, so I don’t know how common these sorts of things are in them; but whether common or unknown (and my money’s on unknown), they certainly suit Sunset.
You’re just asserting things without any evidence to support your statements. It’s both hypocritical and inaccurate. Coming into this with a very clear bias against the character and the setting means even though there is plenty of support for what ExOttoyuhr said, you’re not going to choose to see it.
I think you’re reading way too deeply into the character and seeing things that aren’t there.
What I saw was a cliche high school bully. You know, bitchy, talks shit to everyone, immediately attacks the “new girl”, etc. etc. She went through every motion of the “school bully” trope, and showed almost no personality at all outside of that.
Half of your explanation/post seems to be headcanon. It’s never touched upon in the movie. She just acts like a typical queen-bee bully and that’s it. No other emotions are shown until her heel-face-turn “I didn’t know it was wrong to be a manipulative bitch!” at the end of the movie.