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I wonder if the comic writers were told what was coming up…

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Millennial Dan
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@Archonix  
I don’t disparage what you wrote there, but a lot of it is framed as personal preference. Nothing wrong with that of course, fans have many different approaches to the concept of canon. It can obviously be a rather muddy subject.
 
Still, I don’t see how you can escape the fact that the comics have a continuity that is so distinct from that of the show, much as CardStock was saying.
 
@TexasUberAlles  
That sophism.
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@CardStock  
That is still not what canon means. People keep using this phrase “canon to”, and that’s one of the clearest indications that they don’t understand the concept, because canon is a noun, describing a body of work; it is not an adjective meaning “this counts because I personally like it and think it should be included”. There is no “canon to the show” and “canon to the comic”, there is only “My Little Pony canon”, which also includes everything that happened in G1 and G3/3.5 as well. Previous Gens were different continuities, and if people were using the damn terms correctly, that’s what the argument about the connection or lack thereof between show and comic would be about: whether they’re separate continuities, or part of the same shared continuity but told in different media. That is abso-goddamn-lutely not what the arglebargle is about, though– it’s about petulant haters wanting to de-legitimize stories and concepts they dislike by declaring that they don’t count, and they’re not real, and anyone who likes them is objectively wrong, because it’s just not enough for some people to simply dislike something and ignore it in their own personal headcanon, they have to find some way to completely unmake it for everyone else, too.
 
@Millennial Dan  
Yyyeah… when you’re quoting a source, make sure to actually read it first, or it might end up supporting the other guy’s argument more than your own.
In fan communities based on very loose continuities, “canon” can sometimes boil down to “the bits we like”. Fans will attempt to find any excuse to “de-canonize” facts that they personally find inconvenient.
The actual applicable word for all of the mindless screaming about whether the show and the comic have any connection to each other is continuity, because if you want to restrict it solely to an argument about “canon”, then it’s perfectly obvious that the only reason you’re doing so is exactly what the Trope page is calling you out on: looking for a cheap excuse to de-legitimize a thing you disagree with.
 
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The comics are technically an offshoot, a spin off of the show after the Canterlot Wedding. Where things from the show may come into play within the comics, nothing within the comics has done so within the show. It’s like what was mentioned earlier, there is continuity but that’s not the same as saying that the comics are canon to the show. They have their own canon and this should be fairly evident not just in how, again, nothing in the comics has bled over into the tv show, but the comics have a real different style to them.
 
Really all the writers of the comics are bound to is to write stories that COULD happen within the show. The characters have to behave and react as they would should the same situations arise and so can’t act out of character.
 
Many products have the Hasbro license on them but that’s not an assured sign that it’s official within the show. I’ve seen a number of Hasbro licensed merch of Doctor Whooves with that name yet he’s still technically called Time Turner and Bon Bon is still officially Sweetie Drops despite fans and some merch. with her fan given name.
 
In short, where the comics do rely on the show and do still need to share the continuity with it as to not stray off from what characters would do. It’s licensed and well written fan fiction. It’s extending the universe of MLP:FIM like how the subsequent books for example that came up for Star Wars. It’s lore building which the show can’t always focus on but books and comics for example can do that. Not only that but the comics definitely have a darker tone to them on a number of occasions and delve far deeper into references and fan labor material type stuff than the show does. I do enjoy the comics and a lot of times they are what bronies would love to see in the show, but they’re not the show. They have their own story to them. They’re a spin off sort of series.
Millennial Dan
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@Prof.NightJack  
>Comics to show is not the same as show to show
 
Exactly. With the comics, you can take ’em or leave ‘em. There is no solid reason to say that all the events of the comics definitely happened as far as the show is concerned. And considering the tonal difference between the two, that’s how I hope it remains.
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@Millennial Dan  
That’s not the same at all, I said there is no OFFICIAL word on the comics not being canon, and they are stating it’s up to the viewer/reader to if the comics are canon to the show or not, that isn’t the same as picking out things you don’t like form the show when it is all canon.
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@Prof.NightJack  
Saying “It’s up to the readers/viewers how they want to see it” is as good as saying that yes, there is a divide, and you can adopt both as being the same timeline if you like, but the connection is not strong enough to insist that the comics are canon to the show.
 
For comparison, you can’t say the same about particular episodes, for example. It’d be dumb to be like, “I hate MMC, so I don’t see it as canon.” But you can legitimately do this with the comics, easily.
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@Millennial Dan  
And i was pointing out how officially there is nothing to say they are not, in fact staff from both show and comics have stated it’s more a matter of how a viewer/reader sees it, even if they have there own view on the matter they are not putting on official statement on if they are or are not.
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@Millennial Dan  
I was just saying can you just leave the comments as they are, there was a long debate about if they are canon or not, and even how it’s “continuity” that it really is, that I really don’t want the whole thing to start all over again.
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@Prof.NightJack  
No one is forcing you to reply, you know.
 
And I didn’t use the word canon until you did. The person I first replied to mentioned it, and his obvious meaning was canon to the show, which is what I say is clearly ridiculous. There is way too much random stuff going on in the comics that doesn’t work with the TV series. The comic takes its cues from the show, but the reverse is not true, and hopefully it never will be.
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@Millennial Dan  
You said canon, so how does that not mean canon?  
Also that isn’t really true, the staff of the comics have said they try and keep the show in mind when making the comic, it’s not a guarantee that it will work but they are trying to make it feel like it can be part of the same thing.