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decided to do a diaper edit, though i can’t edit worth anything. so, for fun I guess?
I never at any point claimed to hate edits. I generally dislike the laziness associated with the vast majority of edits, and the one you’re talking about is a rare exception because I liked how the result looked (and at first glance I actually thought it was drawn on, not pasted from another pic). I’m not going to debate this any farther though, since it’s obviously pointless. I sincerely hope you improve at drawing diapers though, there are plenty of guides out there that can help.
You claim to hate edits, yet you seem to be completely fine with show edits, what’s the difference there?
It’s not more work to go through everyone asking, but it’s still a burden none the less. Again, if they care, I’d advise they just put it in a Q&A or about tab.
I really don’t ask because I almost never get a response. there’s no definitive yes or no there. If i do get a response, it’s weeks, or sometimes months later. And it usually turns out that many do not care. Thing is, it’s still more work to do then just saying somewhere “I do not want people editing my images” As you have to have to do it again and again over time.
And I don’t exactly know how i’m doing it behind their back whenever i tag them as the artist, pretty sure they see it then.
I also asked people to suggest images so not only I had something to do, but someone who may want an edit of an image they really like. I stated it as “defacing” whenever talking in the context of your point of view.
The difference is right there in the way you phrased it; “making diaper pony art”. It’s making something new, no matter if it’s based on existing characters or if it’s original characters in an existing universe. There’s no need to get permission because it isn’t simply slapping a diaper on something, it’s drawing a new work- no matter how derivative it may or may not be. As far as “why should it be their job to answer questions about edits?”, how is that more work that tracking down every edited picture and either having to get it taken down or their artist tag added or removed (or whatever their response to it may be)? The fact of the matter is you don’t want to ask because you know for a fact the answer will be “no” 99% of the time, so you try and do it behind their back and claim it’s their job to ask you not to, or make a dozen other silly arguments to try and say it’s not your responsibility. You can argue the point all you want, but it boils down to courtesy as I already said, and you’ve made it pretty clear you’d rather pass the buck onto the artists whose work you edit without permission rather than be polite and get turned down. Or perhaps simply make something original for yourself. What really amazed me was being so bold as to ask for other people to suggest other art to “deface” as you so aptly phrased it.
You may see it as a form of vandalism in some ways because what I am doing could be considered indeliberately defacing someone’s hard work, and that’s fine; I can see where you’re coming from. I can also understand how someone may not like the idea of someone else taking their work and making diaper edits of it. But wouldn’t the same go for making diaper pony art period? Maybe it’s irrelevant, but don’t you think the show writers and character designers would be a little creeped by it too? On another note, it shouldn’t matter what kind of edit is being made. It doesn’t change the idea that it’s someone else’s work is being edited. That’s all it boils down too. If the artist doesn’t say anything about edits, perhaps it doesn’t immediately mean that they’re okay with edits. However, when posting your stuff on the internet, it should be expected “weird” people or strangers will be getting a hold of your work and possibly doing something with it. If the artist doesn’t want people to edit his work, and the artist’s job isn’t to police his work, should his job be to sort through and answer everyone who asks if it’s ok? If an artist wants to prevent this, they should either make it clear their work is under copyright, or specifically state they do not want people editing or remixing their work. And I did also give him credit, I sighted the original post as the source, and tagged him as the artist (though, the tag was removed).
I’m not talking about a legal standpoint, I’m not sure where you got that impression from, it’s more about common courtesy. It’s pretty easy to claim that you wouldn’t mind other people editing your own art when you don’t actually make any- though no, I wouldn’t have asked since it’s fairly irrelevant aside from the fact if you drew it might help you understand from an artist’s standpoint. The fact of the matter is simply that most people don’t enjoy seeing their art which they’ve spent a lot of effort into (and I understand this is just a sketch, but I’m talking also of the effort to refine their skill to a point that even a sketch is presentable) edited toward a fetish they don’t have. Even more so since diaper related art/edits tend to be a pretty iffy subject for people who don’t have the fetish. It shouldn’t be the artist’s responsibility to have to go around and search out edits, then ask for them to be removed, and to be honest that argument is just plain silly. Silence does not mean they’re okay with it, and the burden of asking permission lies with the person who wishes to make the edit. Obviously no one can force you to, I was only trying to inform you of how you should go about it in a polite way before asking for other pictures to “practice” on.
Three things, but first i’d like to mention if the artist actually cared enough to want me to take down edits, I would, no matter what legality states.
And before you ask, yes, if i made original art, I’d be ok with remixes and editing. If anything, i’d encourage it.
Except I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that, like most people who do these things, you didn’t ask the original artist’s permission if you could “practice” all over their art. Much less post it. “Practicing” is vastly different from “practicing and posting the crappy first attempts”, especially when in your own description you admit it’s not a good edit. If you actually want to improve, try drawing for yourself and learning the basics first, then if you still feel the need to edit someone else’s hard work, ask first.
“learn to edit better”
well, that’s kind of the point of doing it, to learn how to edit better. Skill only comes with practice, or something. First step to being good at something is sucking ass at it anyways.
and i thought “eh, someone else might like it, or something, may as well post”.
Alternatively, you could learn to edit better or even just draw instead of marring other people’s hard work with crappy edits.