Seriously though, this could be the best of these prequels, actually.
If only because it does have some legit gravitas added to the story and the characters. It doesnt matter if the dialogue is almost transparent, because this allows us to focus on some pretty harrowing visuals. The last segment feels like its something out of a nightmare, with that lava planet, those dark red tones, the destruction of the Jedi Temple, the birth of the Empire. It all feels right. It took two and a half movies to arrive, but it finally feels like Star Wars.
Needless to say theres a few things that dont work, like the brainless romance dialogue, and the chemistry between the characters is almost non-existent, not to mention the robotic way they deliver their lines, but these are small distractions that dont ruin the final productmuch.
With that said however, I think Im done.
Dont get me wrong, I still like Star Wars, but after the prequels I feel like I just got beat up with a toy light-saber for seven hours. Its going to take a lot for me to regain my faith in this franchise.
Thank you all for following me during this intense marathon, and I hope you all enjoyed it.
@ObliviaTheChangeling
I heard both names used for both shows, which is why I asked for clarification. But if it is the 3D version, then yeah I have to agree….hell that show even got me to Like Jar Jar, and I never thought that would happen.
@Fuedra
Well, there’s a difference in the names. The 2003 one was called “Star Wars: Clone Wars”, whereas the 3D-animated one was called “Star Wars: The Clone Wars”, note the “the” in there.
The problem with the RLM reviews is that while they do raise good points, basically they went in with the idea already that “the prequels are bad from top to bottom” and built a narrative to support that. That’s not really how you do an objective review though. And yes, if they had done any research at all they’d of known how many models were used for planets like Mustafar (Mostly models and sets, with some CGI) Utapau (almost entirely models and sets) then maybe we wouldn’t see so much parroting of “WAAAHH CGI”
The Prequels plenty of issues with their writing and acting, but aside from the last part of Attack of the Clones, which features some poorly done green screen they were freaking visually groundbreaking and for the most part still hold up.
I know personally, if we go back to simple super earth like settings like Endor and stuff and nothing else because “AAHHH CGI” I will be incredibly pissed. If There’s one thing I like from the prequels entirely more than stuff from the OT, it’s the locations. Coruscant is one of the coolest damn places iv ever seen in a movie.
@Joshua In a sense yes. The OT did this too. When you see Luke riding a his Tan-Tan, your actually seeing an animated model over a blue-screen.
The Mustafar fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan used tons of particle effects mixed to help create that battle. Yes, green screen was used, but it wasn’t as crudely uninstalled as parodied by this picture.
They actually build a entire lava canal miniature about 20 feet long, and ran real liquid through it, and polished it with editing soft where.
That’s why Red Letter Media isn’t really creditable to me, because he blatantly misinformed his viewers about how the movies were made.
@Drefsab
Well most of Tatooine in the prequels was sets, so were the forests in Phantom Menace, and the Tantive 4 set in RotS, most of Naboo was a set. Plus almost all of the alien creatures were people in suits.
Okay I’ll give you, Vader, it’s just a funny thought I had, but still it’s not exactly an effective recruitment tactic is it? Plus some of Utapau, but not a lot.
@chris the lovable jerk
You can totally do Utapau with a combination of real sets and CGI. The problem is that the prequels used nothing but CGI, and it the effects haven’t aged well. There’s a reason JJ Abrams is going back to practical effects mixed with greenscreen for Episode VII. Nothing feels real in an entirely CGI world.
Also Vader had already disarmed (dishanded) Luke so that he couldn’t fight back. That’s why he then offered to basically save his life.
@SpikeTheTinyDragon
He overall says that the movie is still bad, that’s the feeling I get from it. Oh and apparently he thinks that places like Mustafar and Utapau can be done without CGI and ignores all the blue screen used in the Original Trilogy. Sorry, this is my favorite of the Star Wars movies and I get really defensive of it. The fact that people go so far to insult the prequels and ignore all of the flaws of the OT really like Yoda’s insane behavior and Vader offering Luke to join him AFTER he cut off his hand is just infuriating to me.
I heard both names used for both shows, which is why I asked for clarification. But if it is the 3D version, then yeah I have to agree….hell that show even got me to Like Jar Jar, and I never thought that would happen.
Well, there’s a difference in the names. The 2003 one was called “Star Wars: Clone Wars”, whereas the 3D-animated one was called “Star Wars: The Clone Wars”, note the “the” in there.
Which we talking about here, the animated cartoon or the 3d cartoon where Anikin has an apprentice?.
http://awthredestim.tumblr.com/post/119044089068/on-the-star-wars-movies
Amazingly enough their favorite is ATTACK OF THE CLONES. Now I completely disagree with that but It’s a perfectly valid opinion to have.
The problem with the RLM reviews is that while they do raise good points, basically they went in with the idea already that “the prequels are bad from top to bottom” and built a narrative to support that. That’s not really how you do an objective review though. And yes, if they had done any research at all they’d of known how many models were used for planets like Mustafar (Mostly models and sets, with some CGI) Utapau (almost entirely models and sets) then maybe we wouldn’t see so much parroting of “WAAAHH CGI”
The Prequels plenty of issues with their writing and acting, but aside from the last part of Attack of the Clones, which features some poorly done green screen they were freaking visually groundbreaking and for the most part still hold up.
I know personally, if we go back to simple super earth like settings like Endor and stuff and nothing else because “AAHHH CGI” I will be incredibly pissed. If There’s one thing I like from the prequels entirely more than stuff from the OT, it’s the locations. Coruscant is one of the coolest damn places iv ever seen in a movie.
The Mustafar fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan used tons of particle effects mixed to help create that battle. Yes, green screen was used, but it wasn’t as crudely uninstalled as parodied by this picture.
They actually build a entire lava canal miniature about 20 feet long, and ran real liquid through it, and polished it with editing soft where.
That’s why Red Letter Media isn’t really creditable to me, because he blatantly misinformed his viewers about how the movies were made.
So the world of Star Wars is small?
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/
Ok. That was my goof. Here the link I meant to post. Same thread though, different section.
Sith had more minatures made for it than the entire OT combined. That’s a fact. Red Letter is a liar who twisted the truth for comedy.
Yes, and I have no idea what it’s trying to tell us.
Did you follow the link?
Hmm… I can’t really tell if that’s stupidity or… uh… nah, it’s just stupidity.
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/page-30
Well, Episode VII’s just around a few corners. Lets see what happens then…
Well most of Tatooine in the prequels was sets, so were the forests in Phantom Menace, and the Tantive 4 set in RotS, most of Naboo was a set. Plus almost all of the alien creatures were people in suits.
Okay I’ll give you, Vader, it’s just a funny thought I had, but still it’s not exactly an effective recruitment tactic is it? Plus some of Utapau, but not a lot.
You can totally do Utapau with a combination of real sets and CGI. The problem is that the prequels used nothing but CGI, and it the effects haven’t aged well. There’s a reason JJ Abrams is going back to practical effects mixed with greenscreen for Episode VII. Nothing feels real in an entirely CGI world.
Also Vader had already disarmed (dishanded) Luke so that he couldn’t fight back. That’s why he then offered to basically save his life.
He overall says that the movie is still bad, that’s the feeling I get from it. Oh and apparently he thinks that places like Mustafar and Utapau can be done without CGI and ignores all the blue screen used in the Original Trilogy. Sorry, this is my favorite of the Star Wars movies and I get really defensive of it. The fact that people go so far to insult the prequels and ignore all of the flaws of the OT really like Yoda’s insane behavior and Vader offering Luke to join him AFTER he cut off his hand is just infuriating to me.
Where does he say he hates it?
All he does is points out the flaws which you can do and still like something.