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Y’know to quote Peter Parker from Insomniac’s Spider-Man, “You do what you feel is best, even if it hurts like hell.”
my
luna
The weight of realization…
In regards to that final sentence, if I recall the episode “Parental Glidance” correctly, it can be so easy to hide your negative emotions until it pushes you over the edge. it could very well be that Luna just didn’t tell Celestia how she felt.
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We all desire to be loved and appreciated. And if that need isn’t fulfilled than eventually it builds up to either suicide or getting what you want by force. Much like Moondancer shut herself off from anyone else to stuff her feelings, some people lash out at others.If things had been a little different Moondancer could have wound up just like Starlight Glimmer, who snapped because she lost the only one closest to her and started a cult village.
That you dismiss that need so casually makes it seem like you don’t really understand what it means to be lonely. “Being royalty wasn’t good enough for her.” Royalty is just a title when you don’t have subjects. Royalty, alicorn and immortal or not, Luna has feelings just like anyone else. The problem is she has so much more power than the average citizen that when she lashes out the potential for destuction and death is much greater.
Of course that doesn’t make Luna right, but even a casual look at science will tell you the effect of neglect on a person’s psyche.
From my perspective Celestia was perfectly justified in her actions to protect her kingdom from an oppressor, and she wouldn’t feel guilty about THAT in particular, as it was necessary. However, her guilt would stem from not realizing her sibling’s feelings before it got to that point. Given that Celestia and Luna are the only confirmed ageless beings in the show it also meant a lonely existence in that anyone else she would ever know would age and die. So over the course of the thousand years she could have lost hundreds of guards, aids, etc, only increasing her wish to have her sister back.
So her thoughts were likely consumed with how she could have done things differently so the fight never happened, not about banishing her sister. All in all, it came down to a lack of communication. Luna seemingly didn’t share her feelings with Celestia, which is all too common when you feel depressed, and Celestia didn’t notice her growing resentment until it was too late.
I can agree there.
Personally, as much as I disagree with @ghostfacekiller39, I would’ve saved “deluded” as a description of the comment from @Background Pony #5A07.
Deluded isn’t indulting. It’s an observation of your behaviour.
Alright, fair point.
I would’ve listened if he didn’t start off by calling me names and shit. I’ve got patience for a debate, but I don’t have patience for that kind of thing.
Uh, no. I guess you’re right about the insulting part, but it still pays to at least listen to the guy. :/
Also, why are you telling me this 2 hours of silence following the last time you said something
Have you been like, thinking about it this whole time?
Good thing I didn’t start my wall of text off by insulting someone, or I might just feel like I did something wrong.
You know what’s funny? The fact that you write a wall of text, expecting people to read it. Then turn around and tl;dr someone else when they do the same. Hypocrisy much?
Don’t waste your breath. Some people are incapable of listening to reason.
Celestia was hogging all the glory and Luna was marginalised causing her to lash out at Celestia.
Its not like Luna became NMM for no reason whatsoever. And seeing how her own narcissism drove her Sister and co ruler to attack her may just have gotten Celestia to consider that her own behaviour back may have been the best….
Its not like they where acting as strangers in a complete vaccum of influences either. It was a family squabble and there is always more going on in a family squabble than just what is being said.
Its hard to say who is justified when we don’t know anything about the events that actually led to Luna becomming NMM. We don’t know for a fact that Celestia wasn’t actively trying to marginalize her sister at court as part of some political game, or if Luna was being manipulated by someone or something else to insite the whole affair. All we know is that Luna was angry about something and became NMM to attack Celestia who then banished her.
Keep in mind though that in the 1000 years since the banishment, Luna was all but forgotten completely and NMM, who noone but Celestia had actually met, somehow became known as a cannibalistic monster known across the country, complete with her own holiday.
Apparently there was some kind of political effort going into spreading blood libel against Luna in her absence. Who’s to say it wasn’t part of what was going on before Luna became NMM?
The first thing I read is you calling me deluded
Yuh, I’ll just mark the rest as tl;dr
Holy shit, you’re literally so deluded in how YOU feel that you don’t consider how someone else would feel.
News flash! Celestia doesn’t lack Empathy like you. She cared for her sister, unlike you. She understand nobody’s perfect, unlike you, and she’s a fictional character! She was written for conflict, and you’re just there to complain how the character didn’t do it the way you think would cause the least conflict.
Tell me how interesting Celestia would be if she didn’t care she banished her sister. She’d be boring and a flat character. She’d just be some emotionless bitch who rules because she was put there. but instead you are criticising her for being given character for feeling guilty that her sister would do something that legitimately hurt her.
You are ignoring the fact that people won’t act the way you do because you’d prefer if it was done the way you did it, like idiots in youtube comments that criticise Let’s Players because they skipped over one miniscule thing.
It is explained in the show that Luna did what she did because she felt like she didn’t get enough attention, because it’s clear that merely being royalty isn’t enough for her. Because she was upset about not getting enough attention, she turned into a monster and tried to force an entire kingdom under her cruel and selfish regime.
Why should I find this to be an acceptable reason for doing what she did? I mean, it’s dead explained in the show that she did it because she was jealous her sister got more attention than she did.
And why is it wrong that I find the notion that Celestia should have to feel guilt to be something incredibly stupid? Are we just going to ignore everything bad Luna has done just to say that Celestia should feel bad for sending her to the moon? I mean, it’s not like she didn’t try to kill her sister and then take a bunch of innocent people and try to force them to live in misery and darkness because “she felt underappreciated” or anything.
@Sandbag
“You also imply Celestia wasn’t banishing Luna for the sake of her own people.”
@ghostfacekiller39
If it wasn’t clear, I was talking about how it was necessary and just to dish out some kind of punishment for trying to make people suffer due to selfish reasons. When I say people, I meant everybody who Luna tried to make suffer.
Which, is pretty much everybody.
So yeahh.
OK, you’re clearly misunderstanding me somewhere and/or deliberately misrepresenting what I’ve written, and I’ve reached the limit of how much I care about this argument.
Holy shit you’re acting like Celestia can’t feel bad for thinking it was her fault Luna went crazy. Literally the reason Luna went crazy is because she was overshadowed by her sister, something of which Celestia felt bad for because it meant being separated from her literally only sibling.
You also imply Celestia wasn’t banishing Luna for the sake of her own people. And then you criticise her for feeling remorse for an action you wouldn’t. Why are you criticising a character for not acting the way you would? That’s like saying Cats shouldn’t act so selfish because you know better. It doesn’t work like that.
If I was a ruler and my brother tried taking over my kingdom just to make people suffer out of his own selfishness, I sure as fuck wouldn’t feel bad for banishing him.
Worry about me, for I am a terrible, heartless person for not wanting innocent people to suffer under my brother’s cruel and self-centered regime.
Because it was her own sister who, however wrong she was, was still lashing out for reasons that, I’m sure, Celestia could understand.
Keep in mind that I’m not saying Celestia was wrong to banish Luna, or that Luna was a helpless victim; and if you want to make things out that Luna was a bad seed rather than a good pony who ended up going down a wrong path, then I’d say any guilt or sadness Celestia would feel would be overwhelmed by the knowledge she’d done the right thing. I’d still worry about someone who didn’t feel some twinge of sorrow over banishing their own sibling, though, despite such banishment being justified.