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Dragon Ball universe is strange on itself. “Afterlife” was hardly a mystical one way place. Goku could teleport to heaven and hell even when he was alive so there was never really any sense of loss in this series. Afterlife was more of a prison for villains just like Tartarus in mlp and I can’t really remember any good character staying dead forever except old Son Gohan who raised Goku.
Dragonball is one example of fiction where resurrection is easy, spammed, and never directly impacts anyone in a bad way.
Depends on what you mean by no repercussions. In Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Buffy is resurrected, as herself, in her own body, with no one dying to bring her back. The repercussion is she suffers a year of serious depression because they pulled her out of Heaven. But eventually she recovers, so in the long run, there were no permanent repercussions. I prefer that sort of story, where the repercussion comes from emotional consequences rather than cosmic bookkeeping.
I think fanfic writers in general are all too happy to embrace the necessity of fictional death, which is silly in a universe where there are in fact immortal characters (actually, fanfic writers are also too quick to turn to Immortality Sucks tropes. Twilight killing herself because she can’t take immortality without her friends is a pretty awful thing when you consider that Celestia, Luna, Cadance and Spike are all either immortal or incredibly long lived, so she’s calling them all chopped liver, basically.)
I agree that Discord has to follow some rules, just that they aren’t necessarily the ones the ponies have to follow.
In my fic, Discord is the only character who can break the law of life and death and treat death as his personal revolving door (not that this is not extraordinarily dangerous for him – he has no guarantees that he will be able to resurrect himself, but it’s at least within his power set.) So theoretically he has the ability to resurrect others by using his own death as the death that opens the door to allow life to be restored, then resurrect himself. In practice, this is sufficiently dangerous for him to do that Fluttershy is probably the only one he’d do it for. So there’s a price to be paid, but it’s one he’s well qualified to pay… but he wouldn’t do it for the entire Mane 6, because he couldn’t. Every time he does it he risks that he won’t come back. So Fluttershy wouldn’t demand that he save the others… but she’d be very, very upset that she’s alive in a world where they’re all dead.
In the Buffy story where they resurrect her, there are no immediately obvious repercussions like a life for a life; they don’t need to kill anyone to save her. But the problem is, she was in heaven and they pulled her back to Earth, so even though she’s still surrounded by her loved ones, she’s suffering terribly from depression and loss and can’t explain to any of them why. In Fluttershy’s case it would be even worse because so many of her friends would be dead.
I never seen in any fiction where necromancy/resurrection being used with no repercussion and with positive results. Same with time travel trope to stop something happening. These stories always seem to aim at “death is natural” and “destiny can’t be changed” sort of messages. There is yet to be a fanfic where ponies are acceptable of someone bringing back someone to life or that his creation do not backfire at some point.
Strangely enough this trope is not exposed when there is a character that CREATE life out of nothing. Like making a thinking robot. Then this robot is becoming a genuine character and its creator is usually being rewarded in some way like Geppetto from Pinocchio (However make Geppetto bringing his son back from the dead and it will never end well)
While I do agree with you on most of it, I do believe that even Discord has to follow SOME rules (Just not the laws of physics, apparently). He’s the Yin to the Elements’ Yang (or was that the other way around? I forget) and as such, he can only go so far into chaos as the others go into good.
I may make a fanfic about that at some point, him resurrecting Fluttershy. But I think he’d still have to follow the balance. For a life to return, another one must be lost. So, when she returns, there’s the sense of trying to resettle into a world she’d left behind and that had moved on. But at the same time, there’s also knowing that someone else died for her; that she had her life placed over that of another living being. For someone like Fluttershy, that would break her heart more effectively than merely being brought back from whatever heaven she was in.
Just once, I want to see a character who magically raises the dead who knows what they’re doing.
Discord’s magic is all about breaking the rules. If there’s anyone who could pull off actually resurrecting a dead friend, as themselves and not a vegetable, zombie or other kind of undead, it would be Discord. I think it would be infinitely more interesting if Discord succeeded… and Fluttershy was totally pissed with him, like Buffy was after she was brought back from the dead, because he just selfishly yanked her out of heaven, and now she has to live in a world where most of her friends are dead, because he couldn’t let go. Let the consequences be emotional rather than the traditional horror story tropes.
Either way, i think he would be a cool character in the show set 100 years into the future with brand new characters. He would start as a villain trying to get whatever magic/artefact/spell main heroes are trying to protect thinking that he wants to use this to control the world. However he would have a hidden agenda to ressurect Fluttershy as an Alicorn or dracoenquus. He would be more of a comical dr Frankentein tragic character. Of course messing with death is always a bad idea so his character would end in two ways. Good ending:experiment fail but he managed to say goodbye so he finally moved on. Bad ending:he destroy himself with Fluttershy(who is ressurected in vegetative state)