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I am not asking you to agree with me outright, but I’m getting the feeling you are outright ignoring certain facts I already said and you already know to preserve some kind of headcanon. This is my own headcanon of course, but I am using causality arguments and addressed facts, not coincidence arguments.
A) You are forgetting it ONLY sucked up energy when the girls were expressing their element. Only. They firmly established this. Twilight met all the girls early on, and only drained their energy when they were expressing some aspect of their element.
Along with that…
b) Sunset and the portal were resonating with each other as both got drained, leaving fiery imprints on the statue. If your argument was true, then Sunset would of just started feeling woosy while the portal became more and more solid.
c) If the amulet only drained the portal when it was being used, then there would be no reason why Sunset was being drained as well. If what you say is true, that couldn’t possibly have happened unless Sunset’s magic has something to do with the portal.
d) it showed the same red energy being sucked from Sunset’s hand, through the statue, and out the other side, where the same, singular energy was being absorbed.
e) The book was created by Celestia for communication across Equestria in absense of a magic dragon. They addressed this. Celestia firmly established she did not have any way of reopening the portal inbetween its 30 moon/annual openings. For the book itself to have that nature is impossible.
f) Twilight established in RR that she wasn’t using the book to create a permanent portal, but the magic that traveled from the human world to Equestria that was now within the book. Logically that magic came from the user, Sunset.
g) The main 6’s harmony power was also not an option for opening a closed portal between those two worlds. Otherwise getting back in time wouldn’t of been an issue at the end of EG1.
h) back to (g) what Human Twilight was absorbing should not have been enough to create dimensional distortions through the amulet or Midnight Sparkle. Even assuming that just absorbing the magic from the portal on that side was enough…
i) When Sunset awakened as Daydream Shimmer, she had the complete ability of closing the boundaries between the two dimensions. Not even Celestia has that power.
@Somber Star
I agree it is not clarified or confirmed yet. However since all evidence seems to point to it, it seems like the most sound conclusion I’ve heard so far.
That’s quite a leap you did there. The portal and sunset being together at the EXACT time as when twilight was sucking the magic out of the portal was a huge coincidence.
And the book merely operated on the same magic as the portal, nothing more nothing less.
TwilightSparkle: who was that?
SunsetShimmer: “removes hoodie”
That’s certainly a reasonable perspective, but I’d hesitate to approach it with certainty until it’s clarified.
I admit it was merely suspected by the others in RR, as Sunset’s book had no way to act as a link normally, but it miraculously did, and Twilight used the magic in Sunset’s message to make the bridge permanent. It was not within Celestia’s power to keep the portals open longer, and she created the books.
Of course, that was before. In the third movie, it directly showed Twilight’s amulet absorbing the portal’s power THROUGH Sunset’s magic. (rewatch the cool scene where Sunset is making fire impressions on the portal as both her magic and the portal’s magic are being disrupted) It wouldn’t of effected Sunset at all if she wasn’t emulating her own element. Furthermore, when Sunset ascended, she instantly had the ability to repair the dimension breaks, and Midnight Sparkle only had that power cause distortions cause she absorbed magic from Sunset beforehand.
The portals and Sunset were a big joint plot point. If Twilight hadn’t absorbed some of Sunset’s power, she wouldn’t of been able create tons of distortions. She just would of had similar power to Sunset Satan.
Since they confirmed what Twilight’s amulet reacted to, what’s left to assume? Before Sunset reached out, absolutely nothing prevented the 30 moon cycle from being permanent.
Principal Cinch made a remark that she had one or two good students that left before she blinked :P
Excuse me, but where exactly has this been “established” because i think you misunderstood something somewhere, as i don’t recall anything of the sorts ever been mentioned
I think I made a comic that relied on that fan theory, it’s incredibly dated now though.
Me too, but I’m pretty sure that ship has sailed. We were introduced to this alternate world via Sunset Shimmer, and her backstory includes a lot of hard-to-address questions (how did she live, enroll, etc.) and weird time shit (time moved slower for Sunset, very narnian) The only reason why it didn’t bring up a huge issue, so long as they don’t address it, is because Sunset was only close to her mentor who doesn’t age, Celestia. I doubt they’ll address that many things about the dimensions.
Back on point, my guess it plays it loose like in many alternate stories. In some places its extremely mirrored, and in some places it splinters off. The very fact Celestia and Luna happen to have normal human counterparts means that some people have alternates out of shear happenstance and fate.
Deep Fate Shit isn’t exactly the best answer, I know, especially since they’ve given the show and its world building a whole lot of structure, but like them all coming together to become elements of harmony or RD triggering all their cutie marks, deep fate shit sometimes is the final explanation. (shrug)
@OneOverTwo
Ok, you have me on SS being a bridging character. I’ll concede that it doesn’t raise a plot hole, though wish that the whole “who’s got a human/pony counterpart?” stuff was better explained.
Agreed. Either they are born from people of both dimensions, or the person stays in the alternate world long enough that they have ‘become’ a member of that universe as well. Its pretty constant.
Most bridge characters don’t have counterparts because usually they’re from both worlds or something though, which Sunset Shimmer only qualifies in a metaphorical sense.
Though yeah, there’s still no plot hole created here.
Except its already been established by Twilight that Sunset’s magic acts as a bridge for the two worlds.
Forgive me if I’m mistaken, but in most parallel stories, the person that acts as a bridge almost never has a living alternate. Besides being in the alternate for an extended period of time, that one is an extremely common prerequisite.
Not to mention there a TONS of ponies without alternates humans, and tons of humans without alternate ponies.
Both storywise or practicality wise, no matter how you look at it, it doesn’t seem like a plothole. If you have to take some rather big assumptions as fact to make a contradiction, it isn’t a plothole.
That doesn’t really affect the plot in any way though. She could easily just be in a different state or something where no one in the group we has seen her.
But mainly whether or not Sunset has a counterpart has nothing to do with the plot (as far as we know). Seriously I can’t think of any way that pokes a hole in the plot.
@CronoM
The plot hole is that there is an implication that for every pony character, there is a human equivalent in the human world within a similar domain; yet there has not been any mention of the human equivalent of SS. That’s the plot hole. CronoM is right regarding its size, but wrong when regarding its status of a plot hole.
Considering the circumstances, no human Sunset is hardly a plothole.
What plot holes?
Worn out places, worn out faces…