would be interesting to see the reactions to this

@Background Pony #EEA2  
Because you’re on a site dedicated to cartoon horse porn and shitposting?

@Background Human  

 
>uses incels as an argument  
Why do I see this name calling instead of an actual argument every single time?

Wasn’t my prediction for 2019 homosexuality, I thought we’re gonna get the big kiss between Pearl and Marina at the end of the final Splatfest. But I suppose if MLP joins in, that won’t hurt.
 
_{Why am I even taking this seriously?}

Are the other characters also tsundere?

 
This comment section is a dumpster fire.
 
@Background Human  
I like you though.

@God_of_Awesome  
I think you’re on to something. It’s the only definition broad enough to encompass all the various groups and ideologies calling themselves “feminist”. The flip side of that is that “anti-feminism” must reject one of those three premises. Typically (1): the incels who decry feminism assert that men are the real victims, just as straight white Christians are.

@DonMaguz  
One way to see feminism is being about some three points, each following after the other:
 

@Background Pony #2138  
Ask hiro the statistics, he brought those numbers up. I just used them to make a point about a minority.
 
I don’t decide anything, feminism has always been about granting women the same rights as men. That doesn’t change with radical postures.

@DonMaguz  
Firstly, id like the statistics that say theyre a 1%. Secondly, why do you get to decide who represents feminism?

@hironakamura  
You’re giving all your attention to that hateful 1% and claiming that their actions are the reflections of what feminism is, instead of calling them for what they are: a bunch of hateful radicals who don’t represent feminism.

@DonMaguz  
What do you mean? I didn’t do anything to turn feminism and diversity into a hate drive. It turned that way on its own because of 1% of very vocal people are turning it that way.
 
I pay attention to a lot of cartoon news. Not just MLP. I didn’t even know stuff like this was happening to comics and video games but its been happening for years. Now these people are going for western animation and anime. https://youtu.be/DpvCsHI50yU I’ve been a fan of many animation franchises since the 80’s, MLP included. Do you guys want this franchise to be ruined?

@hironakamura  
Yeah, it sounds like you’re doing what @DonMaguz is talking about.
 
There’re certainly problems whereas people oppress minorities without meaning, without being hateful or mean or thinking about it, and, on the other hand, there are cases of people lashing out unjustly against the majority and I believe the two are pretty related phenomenon. Actually pinning down the myriad sources of oppression and then explaining the nuances of these things to others who don’t experience them is fucking frustrating, and having these little things you never thought about, never thought were bad or even thought were good things like you’re a child or a bad guy is nearly as goddamn frustrating.

@hironakamura  
“I think it has more to do with the original definition of what a feminist is.  
…  
Of course not every woman or person in the LGBT community thinks like that. Probably 99% of them are considered relatively decent normies. But then there are these 1% special snowflake types who want to push their life styles on other people…”
 
So, are you trying to change the original definition just to align it to what the 1% does?

@God_of_Awesome  
I think it has more to do with the original definition of what a feminist is. Back in the day, you can be a feminist just by supporting women’s equal rights. The least you could do was not judge a person by their gender and you are automatically a feminist. Nowadays, the term “feminist” has been convoluted with hatred. You can’t be a feminist of you don’t hate men. You can’t be a feminist if you don’t hate women who like men. You can’t be a feminist if you don’t get an abortion because your unborn baby is a boy. I kid you not, this is what it means to be a feminist in the current time line that we live in.
 
Here’s another example. Back in the day, all it takes for you to be NOT homophobic was to simply NOT judge someone based on their sexual orientation. If you have gay friends, you’re cool. Nowadays, if you’re straight, you’re automatically homophobic. If you don’t want to be homophobic, you gotta be gay like us.
 
Of course not every woman or person in the LGBT community thinks like that. Probably 99% of them are considered relatively decent normies. But then there are these 1% special snowflake types who want to push their life styles on other people and use “representation” as an argument to a point they force it in popular media ruining franchises left and right. There’s a better way to do that and its called live and let live.

@hironakamura  
I would say MLP is very feminist for its well-crafted, non-token female characters, but hey that’s just how I see it.

@Background Human  
It is the least feminist. This along with Loud House. Both shows have mostly female characters but they’re not girls for the sake of being girls. They’re strong characters first before they are girls. They also don’t emasculate men. They’re not shown as dumb or stupid or unnecessary. Even Spike has his moments. Notice how every couple in the show is straight? Shining Armor and Cadence, Cranky and Matilda, Maud gets a BF, Big Mac gets a gf. This show has very well crafted women characters because they like men.
 
Every fandom has its garbage. MLP has its fair share of garbage. Right now, they’re not doing that gender politics trend thing. If they do that, it’ll gain even more garbage. Back in the day, creators can just ignore them so their own vision for their franchise doesn’t get corrupted. But because of social media, the loud vocal minority who think they’re better than everyone else ruins it for everyone else. If this show goes into gender politics, Hasbro will never be able to touch this franchise ever again to sell toys with it to little children. G5 will be DoA before it even airs.

@hironakamura  
Fans are idiots. Always have been. J.K. Rowling got death threats from Harry/Hermione shippers. You think it’s just a gay thing, that says more about you than anyone else.
 
Also:  
>MLP  
>least feminist
 

@Background Human  
At first, I thought like you. Representation in media was fine… But then you get dumb news like some gay fan black mailing the Voltron staff to make a gay ship canon or else they’ll post spoilers that get’s their studio in legal trouble with Dreamworks. You get trans and gay people bullying some person on social media for drawing fan art “cisifying” characters that they claim were meant for them. Comics and video games aside, its not just in the western media. Its seeping into anime too. There’s fans that harassed the author of Tokyo Ghoul because they have a preferred gay ship with the main protagonist and his male friend but the author gave the main protagonist a straight love interest instead.
 
I have gay and muslim friends and they’re decent people. They’re decent because they don’t like forcing their lifestyle on other people. MLP is for 6 year old children but its also probably the least feminist cartoon show I’ve seen that best represent female characters. Why? Because they’re characters first before they are girls. You put something in this franchise that’s being pushed by people like Noelle Stevenson or Kate Leth, it joins the ranks or ruined franchises like Starwars and EA’s Battlefield.

Canonically, they are just friends, but actually, if you pay attention to all the context clues, then yes they’re totally lesbians. Except they’re explicitly not but implicitly so hard they are.

@hironakamura  
TIL not raping your coworkers is an “agenda”.

@Minus  
Do you actually want to ruin the franchise the same way everything is being ruined by the #MeToo agenda?

Am I missing something, or do people actually not want this for some reason?  
Let me just read the commen- oh shit no! The heck happened there? People really are arguing over nonsense.  
Hoenstly it’d be a huge shock if after how well Hasbro hsa done establishing it’s not afraid to add gay couples that they would do anything less than a kiss. They have more gay couples than most of the other progressive shows people harp on about. It would be weird if they didn’t have at least one of the canon gay couple kiss. They’re just waiting for season 9. That’s the loophole every other show uses afterall. It’s the smart move.

@Background Pony Number 17  

 
Wha…?