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ColdhardSilver
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@Mayojar77  
Twilight also didn’t know about the alicorn process, but Sunset did through a Celestia’s books.  
Based on Sunset’s mindset, she probably snooped around alot for way to up her power and came across a secret record or something.
 
As for the how she knew about the elements……[insert personal shrug pony] I chalk that up to glazed over piece in the writing.
Mayojar77
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

You know, I just realized something.  
Sunset Shimmer was inside that portal during the entirety of the series’ run so far. There is no way she knew that Twilight was the Element of Magic, that Twilight would be visiting the Crystal Empire during the duration of the portal being open, That Twilight would have the Element on her, or even if Twilight knew of the Crystal Empire.  
On that note, Sunset shouldn’t have known that the Crystal Empire was even a thing, let alone that there was a portal to another world there, seeing as how even the existance of it was on a need to know basis, and we’ve already seen that the Student doesn’t need to know unless it’s an emergency.  
Literally nothing makes sense about this movie.
ColdhardSilver
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@Trickquestion  
….I’d just like to stop for a sec and realize that I just critically analyzed the backstory of warlock/dark mage villain from My little pony with the results sounding like the plot to adventure/rpg game 0-0  
Isn’t this fun? :P
Trickquestion
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@ColdhardSilver  
That makes a lot of sense.
 
During his time as Celestia’s student, Sombra probably ran around doing all kinds of missions/tests for Celestia, just like Twilight does. He was probably expecting Celestia to make dealing with him another such mission for a different unicorn, and tailored his defenses accordingly, probably assuming he could deal with any other avenue of attack personally.
 
Celestia ends up surprising him by showing up in person, either because she understands how Sombra thinks, or wanted to try and talk him down. And as it turns, Sombra was not, in fact, then the master.
ColdhardSilver
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@Trickquestion  
A thing to also note (or at least what I like to note) is Sombra’s traps because  
A) They allude to Sombra being rather clever and smart before becoming the dark beast we now know him as.
 
B) They also seem like the where made for Twilight or at least one of Celestia’s students. Magic based traps designed to stop not fully realized unicorn whose mission is to go alone if not Celestia/Luna (one, not both).
 
I headcanon that Sombra has learned how Celestia’s lessons go from expirence and made traps to stop/trap her current student.  
How does that sound?
Trickquestion
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@MagnificentTrixie  
The thing that really sells the idea for me is the fact that Sombra (seemingly) had no soldiers, administrators, or any other kind of non-slave subject. He ruled the empire by pure force of magic. In the first episode, Twilight didn’t have contact with anyone but Spike, who served her unconditionally and who she treated rather poorly, in order to focus on magic. King Sombra’s empire was that mentality taken to it’s most horrific extreme.
MagnificentTrixie
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@Trickquestion
 
I like that headcanon as well. I like to imagine Sombra and Celestia were close, at least in her eyes, but he was just using her until she taught him everything she knows about dark magic.
 
Which is apparently a lot.
Mayojar77
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

PC:… And every one that wasn’t a Pegasus so far has turned evil.  
TS: But Cadence is the only Pegasus you’ve ever taught!  
PC: How do you think I came up with this trend.
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The next set of villains-of-the-week are the Dropouts, Celestia’s evil ex-students, like the Evil Exes from Scott Pilgrim. As each is defeated, questions are raised about Celestia’s teaching methods and choice of students.
 
Twilight learns that Celestia has taken a new student in secret, just in case…
ColdhardSilver
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@PonyPon  
Yes after Cadance defeated Prismia and became an alicorn. Thatwas also when Celestia adopted her as her niece.
 
@Fortune  
I have a similar theory :3  
And the whole “cleaning her mess” might be the case as we have seen Celestia constantly tries to make up for her past mistakes (Nightmare, Discord, Sunset, Starswhirl’s spell).
Fortune
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@ColdhardSilver  
It’s an interesting theory to think that perhaps Sombra was her first and taking him out was really just cleaning up her mess.  
(Nothing in canon to support or deny, like every other theory we come up)