@iamli3
No. This is new. This is very, very new. This is a thing we haven’t dealt with before. This is something else. People living in the U.S. have no clue what this is. And I’ve only spent just enough time in the U.K. to know that this is a dogs breakfast the likes of which we can not even conceive.
You think it was bad when Brazil fucked the Internet? Just wait.
@iamli3
You have a lot of strong opinions about how the UK should be governed for someone that has no idea about how the UK is governed.
The joke is you claim of “thank goodness we have the internet” is quite ironic given “brexit” has put May in charge of the UK government, and boy oh boy does she have plans for the internet.
And she was previously the Secretary of State for the Home Office, where she repeatedly tried to introduce what is commonly referred to as the snooper’s charter, being a bill or set of bills that would let the government spy on every aspect of your daily life with impunity.
Her predecessors in the post did the same, which tells me that it’s the civil service that are after it rather than any particular politician. She was very enthusiastic about the whole thing, but now she’s PM she hopefully won’t have time to pursue it anymore. Unfortunately, whoever has replaced her at the Home Office is definitely going to pick up the torch and run with it.
Since we’re on the topic of freedom, democracy, and the UK…
The next prime minister of the UK will be someone no citizen voted for and who spearheaded the writing and approval of the most invasive and financially wasteful online mass surveillance legislation in the western world.
Personally, I have lost count of how many un-democratic measures there are in American democratic system, electoral college being one of the most influential among them, though far from the only one.
Perhaps in light of this shitshow it’s easy to forget the myriads of other obstacles that exist even in the best of hypothetical democracies. Few countries go to the same clown-pants lengths as the US, but all of them have their own spokes in the wheels, whether more or less blatant, from passing laws unfavorable to opposition to good old election fraud or assassination.
And that’s just subversion of the popular vote, whereas the actual battle for power takes place between lobbies that attempt to buy out the entire ballot so that the vote for any candidate results in victory for their interests.
I think my favorite part in all this is that election of the candidate that majority of the people actually voted for - especially when it’s the “technical majority” of 51% or so - is considered a democratic success.
Well, not if you elected a corrupt psychopath, not really.
@iamli3
Other candidates would have had to have registered with some of the states in the past. In some cases FAR in the past.
By contrast, each of the states now has a law that puts the nominee of the 2 primary parties as a candidate on the fall ballots - everyone else would have had to have registered in each state following the requirements in each state. And each state varies enormously.
Like, in Wisconsin you would have had to have turned in your 2,000 to 2,500 signatures (no more, no less, or you don’t get on the ballot) last September or something.
Each state is different.
But the candidate selected by the parties are automagically stuffed into every ballot.
The two party system in the United States is not an artifact in the constitution, but it has been made very very difficult to compete with in the law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship
http://www.globalresearch.ca/web-of-deceit-britains-stealth-internet-censorship-program/5386142
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/stop-uk-internet-censorship#/
sorry , you’re gonna have to explain to me what exactly is different with this case….
and let’s not forget the official secrets act!….
No. This is new. This is very, very new. This is a thing we haven’t dealt with before. This is something else. People living in the U.S. have no clue what this is. And I’ve only spent just enough time in the U.K. to know that this is a dogs breakfast the likes of which we can not even conceive.
You think it was bad when Brazil fucked the Internet? Just wait.
i knew that , i just didn’t recognize your picutre , i thought that was someone else….
the eu has plans for the internet too , all major world powers do , this is nothing new…..
You have a lot of strong opinions about how the UK should be governed for someone that has no idea about how the UK is governed.
The joke is you claim of “thank goodness we have the internet” is quite ironic given “brexit” has put May in charge of the UK government, and boy oh boy does she have plans for the internet.
Unsubscribes.
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And she was previously the Secretary of State for the Home Office, where she repeatedly tried to introduce what is commonly referred to as the snooper’s charter, being a bill or set of bills that would let the government spy on every aspect of your daily life with impunity.
Her predecessors in the post did the same, which tells me that it’s the civil service that are after it rather than any particular politician. She was very enthusiastic about the whole thing, but now she’s PM she hopefully won’t have time to pursue it anymore. Unfortunately, whoever has replaced her at the Home Office is definitely going to pick up the torch and run with it.
The new
cuntPrime Minister of Britian, Theresa MayEdited because: Syntax
idk who that is….
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thank goodness we have the internet…..
SNOWDEN SAVE US
SNOWDEN SAVE US
Wow, Senator Palpatine has really improved his hairstyle game.
>>851301t (deleted)
IN-GER-LUND! IN-GER-LUND! IN-GER-LUND!
and I thought London’s mayor was the worst choice.
“Together we will build a better Britain”
It’s almost enough to distract me from what is going on in my own country.
The next prime minister of the UK will be someone no citizen voted for and who spearheaded the writing and approval of the most invasive and financially wasteful online mass surveillance legislation in the western world.
Thumbs up, Britain!
![full](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/04/1415061203854_Image_galleryImage_THERESA_MAY_MP_HOME_SECRE.JPG(thumbs up everyone’s arse as part of routine safety inspections, citizen))
that’s why it’s a success of democracy and not of good ideas lol…..
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Perhaps in light of this shitshow it’s easy to forget the myriads of other obstacles that exist even in the best of hypothetical democracies. Few countries go to the same clown-pants lengths as the US, but all of them have their own spokes in the wheels, whether more or less blatant, from passing laws unfavorable to opposition to good old election fraud or assassination.
And that’s just subversion of the popular vote, whereas the actual battle for power takes place between lobbies that attempt to buy out the entire ballot so that the vote for any candidate results in victory for their interests.
I think my favorite part in all this is that election of the candidate that majority of the people actually voted for - especially when it’s the “technical majority” of 51% or so - is considered a democratic success.
Well, not if you elected a corrupt psychopath, not really.
siiighh well that’s shithouse….
Other candidates would have had to have registered with some of the states in the past. In some cases FAR in the past.
By contrast, each of the states now has a law that puts the nominee of the 2 primary parties as a candidate on the fall ballots - everyone else would have had to have registered in each state following the requirements in each state. And each state varies enormously.
Like, in Wisconsin you would have had to have turned in your 2,000 to 2,500 signatures (no more, no less, or you don’t get on the ballot) last September or something.
Each state is different.
But the candidate selected by the parties are automagically stuffed into every ballot.
The two party system in the United States is not an artifact in the constitution, but it has been made very very difficult to compete with in the law.