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kassarc16
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

The only thing I decided to watch was the animated bits. Delancie starts to sing about clopping, stops short, and says “Let’s not talk about it”. I don’t blame the group, but it’s not like they ever really would have covered the topic.
Sporky
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

I also specifically remember Dx11/TiaraWhy not getting credit for the tentacles in the FiW panel. Whoever asked that must’ve really been trying to rustle their jimmies.
Sporky
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Did we all forget what Rule 34 actually meant? It means anything will have porn of it. You could really bash any fan of absolutely anything about it. Hell, they might’ve looked at it or even enjoyed it. But it’s insignificant because it’s Rule Motherfucking 34.
 
The difference here is that we actually have names to put behind these. JJ and MS are at the front. From the simplistic RD wallpaper on that ubiquitous 20% cooler shirt to a well-endowed Fluttershy.
amateur
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

I’m not sure why people are arguing about ethics and whatnot for this documentary anyway. The only people that will ever watch it are bronies, and the rest will just get bored after about a minute. The only way to really appreciate the awesomeness of this fanbase is to be a part of it.
Leiden 70F7
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@A Sad Pony  
You know, I really agree with that last part.  
Pony fans are a force to be reckoned with. The amount of NSFW art that has arisen because of MLP is staggering, but the mountains of SFW material that has been made is much more representative of the fanbase, and what it’s about. And while I don’t think that the R34 should specifically not be mentioned, or that they should make it appear that it doesn’t exist in the community, I agree that making it a part of the documentary wouldn’t really add much without causing unwarranted confusion.
Leiden 70F7
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Background Pony  
The problem is I’m not quite sure how you could “just mention it”. To prevent it from it looking like R34 is a big enough part of the community that it doesn’t need any explanation, you’d have to explain what the concept of “rule 34” is, explain that every other cartoon has some (which sounds like we’re trying to justify something), and then talk to a bunch of different people to get opinions, at which point you’ve devoted about 7 minutes of this documentary to pony porn.
 
@HereComesGummy  
Oh, no, I don’t mean to imply that the amount of R34 is anywhere near the amount of family friendly content. Only that in the realm of drawings of an intimate nature, the MLP craze is quickly gaining on properties that have had a much longer time on the market, and already have a large stockpile of porn. It’s something of a testament to how enthusiastic and artistically inclined the pony fandom is. (That on top of the mountains of SFW artwork, they also find time to also make so much NSFW artwork)
 
@Dt  
Hm. Probably… Maybe John De Lancie could be at someones booth, and the guy hands him an art book, and John holds it, and then turns it sideways as the page folds out. Probably still won’t happen, but that seems like the most likely route they would take.
A Sad Pony
Artist -
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

I made a .gif once
I do have to take issue with a couple of things.
 
On Paheal, the defacto homepage for R34…  
Is this even true anymore? I’m curious. Last I checked, there was a Booru better dedicated to it.
 
It’s not as if the R34 side of the community is a fringe group  
It might be bigger than most on Paheal, but even on the image repositories like Derpibooru and even Ponibooru, the number of “safe” artworks far exceeded it. The explicit tag here doesn’t go into 5 digits.
 
Most of the people who create or enjoy MLP R34 are normal, well-adjusted people  
Snark bait aside, I’m not with what confidence you can say that. (Then again, I haven’t seen or heard anything that would imply that My Little Pony fans are worse in that aspect, either.)
 

 
If a documentary just needs to record this phenomenon, then I don’t really see how including R34 would necessarily benefit it. Claims of journalistic integrity can be made, but there’s nothing that really forces people to adhere to that (hence why FOX News whitewashing exists in the first place). History has all sorts of little dark secrets and ambiguous nuances that the human race selectively records and reinterprets, which people can (and should) discover, and question, on their own. Anybody who really cares for their erotic cartoon horse art already knows about that stuff, and those who don’t shouldn’t, and I don’t see why the document should focus on something admittedly divisive like that when it can focus on the core phenomenon of people loving little technicolor equines enough to create stuff in the first place, something we can all get behind.
 
Ultimately, though, it doesn’t really matter. If it’s mentioned, that’s fine, if it’s not, that’s fine.
php192

I don’t think they should mention Rule34, but it is a great part of the fandom.  
If they mention it, they should use John Joseco as an example. Because what he makes is GOOD, FUNNY and almost everypony knows who he is.
HereComesGummy
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

It think it’s worth pointing out that having more images on Paheal doesn’t mean there’s more porn of a particular series. Paheal depends on uploaders, so if people don’t upload a particular series, its numbers will be low no matter how much porn is actually out there. Sonic fans in particular often discourage people from posting porn outside of their own forums.
 
Another way to look at it is with percentages. Yes, there’s a lot of MLP porn, but there’s a TON of MLP fanart in general, and the vast majority of it is clean. It would be unusual if most of MLP’s art were porn, but it’s not. In that way, MLP is not that unusual.
Background Pony #5387
34 is kind of the elephant in the room. I would give it a quick mention, if only to say “there is also drawn porn of MLP. This is not unusual for popular cartoons, in fact it is extremely common for nearly every popular media franchise on the internet.”
Yorec
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

I think its fine that they aren’t talking about R34. They don’t really need to, nor do I want them to. There’s no way you can talk about how some fans like cartoon ponies in a sexual way and spin that positively for the general public.