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If only we could upvote/fave comments…
@P3FOYFN
A quick summary of the Building 7 collapse (by a former troofer, for what that’s worth).
Twenty five percent of respondents to a poll by the British Institution of Engineering and Technology believe the Moon landings were faked. The SHOCKING TRUTH is that there are, in fact, moonbats everywhere.
Tell me, did any of those learnéd sages address what exactly the point would be of “controlled demolitions” at a facility that had two fully loaded airliners crashed into it at 500+mph? The crux of this moonbattery is the uninformed belief that it would be impossible for skyscrapers to fall straight down rather than topple over sideways, despite the fact that other skyscrapers have in fact done just that and the WTC towers were designed in such a way that made pancaking the inevitable catastrophic failure mode; if you expect people to buy the snake oil superstition that the whole thing was a planned demolition– and anyone who’s ever been involved in the incredibly difficult and involved demolition of a large structure could tell you it’s laughably ridiculous to think you could do it without anyone noticing in downtown Manhatten– you’re going to have to explain what the point of that would be if the expectation was that crashing jet airliners into the Twin Towers supposedly should have brought them down sideways like you claim.
And I’m sorry, but anyone who thinks WTC7 “looks like a controlled demolition” is either an idiot or taking an idiot’s words at face value without bothering to check the timestamps on the archival footage, because the building was on fire for eight hours before it caved in.
evidence of thermite
Setting aside for a moment the rather quite important fact that you can’t actually use thermite to cut through vertical structural members and the supposed prooooof of that happening was in fact clearly torch cutting done during the debris removal process days and weeks after the fact, do you know what thermite actually is? It’s a powdered metal and an oxidizer that allows it to reach its melting point, with the most common materials used being aluminum and iron oxide because of their relative cheapness.
Guess what airliners are mostly made of.
Each of the 757s was built of approximately 30 tons of aluminum, all of which was shredded into fairly small pieces by slamming into a steel and concrete structure at high subsonic speeds, and immediately subjected to intensely hot fires powered by aviation fuel and shredded office building contents in an enclosed space that was turned into the equivalent of a blast furnace by high winds. Aircraft aluminum is infamous among aviation first responders for melting through in a very short amount of time– from heat sources as comparitively mild as “the friction of dragging along the ground in a crash landing”– and a whole galaxy of studies have been done on the safety hazards involved in the flammability of aircraft contents.
Over 2200 Architects & Engineers Crush The ‘Official’ 9/11 Commission Report
This goes on about how WTC 7 looks like a controlled demolition. They talk about evidence of thermite, and show what other skyscraper fires have looked like.
Food for thought.
No, that’s an actual real thing; the CIA has a history of having agents provocateur pretend to be hyperbolic “truther” types to make anyone asking legitimate questions that need legitimate answers– such as, “shouldn’t it take less time to scramble fighters to intercept aircraft over NYC and DC than the time between air traffic controllers losing IFF and the NYC building impacts on 9/11?”– seem like cranks and conspiracy nuts. It’s the same way a large percentage of the supposed “radfem” man-haters online are in fact shitbag misogynists trying to manufacture sockpuppet ammunition for themselves, and the way the assholes nobody’s ever seen before who are trying to convince other protestors to throw rocks at the cops in an incipient riot are usually undercover cops. There are always just enough morons who’ll take any bullshit that fits their preconceived notions at face value that anyone trying to cause trouble only has to dangle some bait and the morons will swallow it whole and do all the rest of the work themselves. Fuckin’ Nazis, man– settin’ fire to the Reichstag building and thereby giving every loon with a crank conspiracy theory a real world example to point to as an excuse for claiming shapeshifting space lizards must be responsible.
A conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory?
That’s new, I guess.
It all fits…
@Exedrus
Giant magnets, how do they work?
Giant magnets.
It’s not so much that it was shut down, but they had a huge war game going on in the Atlantic. That somehow made people think that the hijacked planes were part of the game.
I don’t get why they didn’t respond as fast as they should have. They need to act as though things are real in these games.
I just hope that the new tower is strong enough to withstand one of those new super tankers.
Yeah, the “Cheney turned off the lights at NORAD” thing has been pretty thoroughly shot down.
I kind of doubt the POTUS can shut down an international organization
hahahahaha
Oh buddy– they’ve been calling it the Imperial Presidency since Roosevelt won The War for a reason, and being The United Goddamn States Of Muthatruckin’ America means not having to give a fsck about international treaties, especially not with Canada. Read up some time on US strategic doctrine during the Cold War; we would have sold out their frozen asses in a heartbeat, and the Pentagon treated Canada just as much like an expendable “buffer state” as the Soviets treated Eastern Europe.
@Ebalosus
AW SHIT, YOU DUN FUCKED UP NOW! QUICK! RUN FOR IT BEFORE THE REPTILIANS SEND THE MEN IN BLACK TO BRING YOU OVER FOR DINNER! AND WHEN I SAY “FOR DINNER”, I MEAN THE MAIN COURSE IS YOOOUUUUU!!!
FOR GAWD’S SAKE, MAN, STAHP TALKING ABOUT THE CHEMTRAILS, TEH SPY MICROPHONES IN THE RFID TAGS CAN HEAR YOU
Oh, the incoming Dubya Regime absolutely knew it was coming, and had been warned by the outgoing Clinton Administration about the strong likelihood of such attacks; the only legitimate question is how much the people in positions to do anything about it knew far enough in advance to keep it from happening, and whether their motivation for refusing to act on that information was based on incompetence or malice (spoiler alert: it was mostly malice). There is a well documented train of evidence that both the Pentagon and Justice Department were aware that known terrorists were under direct and indirect surveillance in the US while training to fly commercial aircraft, but not to land or take off, and that they had confirmed ties to al Qaeda programs that had the goal of hijacking airliners and using them as kamikaze bombs. The equally and thoroughly well~~documented web of lies and fabrications that were perpetrated by the illegally installed Dubya Regime make it pretty obvious that they had specific information about specific upcoming terrorist attacks and deliberately chose not to act on that information so that they would have a blank check for whatever abuses of power they wanted, by using WAR ON TERRRRR!!1! as an excuse. Their responses in the immediate aftermath seemed to indicate that they were shocked by the extent of the attacks, but they for damn sure knew it was coming before the fact; you don’t have the true identities and group affiliations of twenty foreign terrorists (who had entered the country illegally with false identities and fake passports years earlier) in less than 24 hours unless you had that information already compiled and in hand before the crime was committed. If the FBI had been that good at their jobs-~~ or, as is more likely, had been allowed to be that good at their jobs– those terrorists would have been rounded up before they got to the airport.
09/10/2001, GWB shuts down NORAD for the first time in its history to play theoretical war games with Russia. Three Airforce officers resign after refusal to comply.
That in itself should be a red flag.
That’s enough Fuckery for today
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Imma go ahead and unsub
You don’t have any better a grasp on the concept of “going away” than you do of science or logic.
Le maymay arrow time!
Actually, going through the ruins to figure out how a building collapsed is an application of science, so… yeah, you actually did make a claim related to science – that all the structural engineers and other trained professionals of applied science who worked on figuring out how the WTC collapsed, and their peers around the world who checked and double-checked their results for errors were all wrong and you know better… or that they were all part of some vast conspiracy that’s somehow managed to stay hidden for almost 14 years after the fact…
Please excuse my skepticism, is what I’m getting at.
And those believes are related to that of science, not what I’m talking about. Imma go ahead and unsub for a few days. I’ll be back with popcorn.
Some people believe the Earth is flat.
Some people believe – with quite a bit more and stronger evidence to back up their belief – that the Earth is
roundan oblate spheroid planet.Some people go as far as believing we live on the inside of a spherical hollow Earth.
Are those mutually exclusive beliefs equally valid representations of reality?