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I’m in favor of allowing the leaked material as well, as there is FAR TOO MUCH to ignore and put a smiley face on it.  
But I am with TexasUberAlles on ABSOLUTE enforcement of Spoiler:s08
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I’m in favor of allowing the leaked material as well, as there is FAR TOO MUCH to ignore and put a smiley face on it.
But I am with TexasUberAlles on ABSOLUTE enforcement of Spoiler:s08
I guess my big problem with this is, this is not like previous “leaks”. We’re not talking about some episode slipping out early because someone goofed on the date to release it online, or an episode airing early in another country, or anything like that. The person who did this accessed Hasbro servers illegally and stole e-mails, proprietary information, and other unfinished material. And however much people want to sugarcoat their inability to resist seeing what got released, there isn’t any legitimate justification for having seen any of it. That’s why I feel the ban should extend to artwork based on the leaks as well, because no one who isn’t deliberately looking for and viewing stolen material should have any knowledge yet of what any of this stuff is.
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… because no one who isn’t deliberately looking for and viewing stolen material should have any knowledge yet of what any of this stuff is.
Not true. I didn’t even realize this leak had happened until I’d looked through a few of the images (and then noticed they’d been deleted). If I hadn’t been so curious as to why my attempt to upvote some neat looking concept art wasn’t going through, I probably never would’ve even realized that the posts were from the leak. The same could be true for others.
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… because no one who isn’t deliberately looking for and viewing stolen material should have any knowledge yet of what any of this stuff is.
Not true. I didn’t even realize this leak had happened until I’d looked through a few of the images (and then noticed they’d been deleted). If I hadn’t been so curious as to why my attempt to upvote some neat looking concept art wasn’t going through, I probably never would’ve even realized that the posts were from the leak. The same could be true for others.
Yes, that is a fair point. I suppose I should have made it clearer I was thinking about people who were making fanart of the episodes that technically we aren’t supposed to know anything about yet. But yes, accidentally learning something is kind of par for the course with something like this. Goodness knows I’m trying to avoid it all anyway though.
 
 
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Fanart of leaked stuff will stay. It needs to be tagged with the relevant spoiler and leak, but that’s it.
Yeah, I kind of expected as much. Thank you for at least answering my question.
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@ice1517  
Would like an answer too  
Someone’s image got removed and I’m not sure if it’s because the digital release doesn’t count for some reason or if a mod didn’t get the memo
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Right now, we’re still treating anything as Rule #1 if it’s from the movie and doesn’t have a source that points at an official release from some company with permission to release it, such as a preview or the “The Making Of” which was broadcast.
 
If it were broadcast on Discovery Family, or available on Netflix or Hulu, or if AllSpark put it on some other broadcast service, I would be completely surprised if we were still deleting things from it.
 
But right now the movie is still only available for sale - AKA the owners of the movie still want to make money with it - and with Christmas and other Solstice holidays right around the corner I’m sure they’re hoping that Santa Celestia will drop a few more money bills in their stockings.
 
If this changes, I’m sure that there will be some sort of obvious announcement. Until then, this movie is still like the art books - something meant to actually earn money rather than just advertise toys.
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Please don’t interpret what I said as some sort of “When this happens you can …”
 
I know I’ve said this several times so I’m repeating myself, but the movie is much more like the art books or the comics [edit] which also are treated as Rule #1 unless they are a preview or, in the case of the comic, under other special circumstances such as only partial scans (I just realized some people might not understand why I keep making this comparison).[/edit]
 
Hasbro treats the episodes like expenses to advertise the toys, and they have been SUPER nice about fan art and people sharing things from the broadcast episodes (up to a point, which appears to be when you try to share content that includes the voice actors or music).
 
But with things like the art books or comics or the movie - that’s not an advertisement - that’s product. And it’s often managed and monitored by OTHER companies, and those other companies have their own ways of dealing with things that they have a fiduciary responsibility for.
 
Speaking for myself - and JUST for myself - even when the movie does premier on Netflix or Discovery Family, I would not be in the least surprised if AllSpark’s or Hasbro’s ENORMOUS stable of freelance lawyers starts sending nasty letters to sites hosting images from the movie. It’s what they’re paid to do, and at the end of the day they need to show a certain number of “C&D letters sent in exchange for more sweet, sweet monies”. They basically exist in a bounty hunter kind of world. And if they don’t do it, then maybe Paramount sees that Hasbro isn’t protecting it’s intellectual property, and starts acting like they OWN the Transformers, instead of just licensing them.
 
Right now AllSpark is the new kid on the block, and they need to show everyone that they can fight with the big kids. So this is a very important time for them to “get it right”. They have to prove for all their investors and competitors that they’re grown up and can be trusted with properties, and can DEFEND those properties - because Hasbro is denying OTHER companies licenses that they’re giving to AllSpark. So AllSpark has to show that they are up to it.
 
And it might be that this movie forever remains like the Art Books - 100% completely no. Even though it’s pony, the movie is a completely different kind of thing than the TV show is, from the companies involved to the legal structure it exists in. And the way the companies involved in it deal with fans is also completely different. There’s some history for some of the companies - like LionsGate - but for AllSpark we’re still making this up as we go along.
 
On the other hand, once the movie actually airs on broadcast or cable - I personally don’t think they’re going to care any more. Either companies like LionsGate and AllSpark will no longer be involved because they’ve sold it to someone else, or it will be so far down the food chain that fansites spreading the love is good for them, not bad. And if they do care, I don’t know if WE will care that they care. So maybe we’ll just do what we want to do anyway, because a that point … fuck it.
 
But, that’s just me. I’m a guest here like everyone else - my name isn’t on ANY dotted lines as far as the lawyers are concerned.
 
So please don’t take what I say as some sort of “Ready, set, GO!” marker for when it will be ok, because it might be that AllSpark makes some sort of public broadcast after Christmas and tells everyone that they love the fans like Hasbro does, and everything is fine. Or it might be that they go the LionsGate route and it will never be ok.
 
For right now, all I can say is please wait, and enjoy the ponies that we have.
 
Gosh this ended up being a wall of text.
 
>inb4
 
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So here’s a semi-related question to all of this (and I apologize if this would be better suited elsewhere)… has a global filter for leaked material ever been discussed here? I ask because I’ve never been a big fan of making accounts, and while I usually like to see everything, I don’t do spoilers or leaks.
 
Plus given the recent issues posed by leaked material, it suddenly seemed like a relevant issue to ask about again.
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