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Background Pony #593A
@Hackron
However, remember that on page 78, Spike states that Twilight became withdrawn and cold over the years. Her cruelty is recent, beginning only seven years ago. So there may be another factor involved here…Changelings? Dark powers influencing her? In a way, this seems likely, as her attitude does not seem like a pony that has endured so much that she lost herself. Her words to Rarity and Fluttershy are petty cruelties, like she enjoys hurting them for the sake of spreading misery.
 
The wings and power might changed her
Zeyon

@BUzer  
If arguing is stating unpleasant realistic facts and going to console her friend after making Pinkie uncomfortable, then I guess you are right.
LuminoZero

@Background Pony #E101
 
My argument is that ‘justifiable’ is, by its very nature, a subjective word. You cannot accurately define something by subjective terms, especially not in terms of law.
 
“Anyone who is tall will die.”
 
What does ‘tall’ mean in that respect? Taller than me? Taller than you? Taller than a teacup? A law like that is impossible to enforce. This issue with perspective is why the military and police have strict guidelines on the use of lethal force.
 
-Lumino
Background Pony #8F14
@LuminoZero
 
Is your argument that the definition of murder isn’t what you mean when you say “murder”? Because that means one simple thing: You shouldn’t be using that word.
 
Words have meaning. You don’t get to invent a definition just because you don’t like what the definition is. Language is meant to communicate with others, not with yourself. If you only care about whether or not you understand what you’re saying, then why in the world are you saying anything at all?
MadVillain
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Everyone is discussing Twilight’s drastic change in personality, why is no one addressing her drastic change in height?
LuminoZero

@Lightning Stormer
 
Being willing to kill does not mean going in with it as your first recourse. Just because her friends might be willing to do anything to restore peace, doesn’t mean their first choice is going to be to crash a meteor into her house.
 
-Lumino
Lightning Stormer

@LuminoZero @Background Pony #E101  
Yeah, as of right now. Right now there is a lot of reasons to have Twilight dead due to her recent reign of terror. If this was in the show then maybe she could get a good talking to and everyone would forgive, but this is obviously not the show. Those in her castle might not see the truth and believe she is doing good, but for those that been wronged. Those people see her a tyrant that needs to be kicked out of power and be punished for her crimes, with her life.
LuminoZero

@Background Pony #E101
 
Ah, but then we get into the question of what is ‘justified’? Where is the line drawn for what is acceptable and what is not? It’s a grey area at the best of times.
 
I view murder as taking someones life against their will. It might not be the crime of murder, depending on the laws of your place of residence, but I still feel that the definition fits. Because when you start putting morality into law, things get impossible to enforce.
 
Is it murder if I kill someone to save my life?  
Is it murder if I kill someone who is going to steal medication I need to live?  
Is it murder if I kill someone who will ruin me and my family?
 
Be very careful when you use words like ‘justified’. Everyone’s views on what is ‘justifiable’ are different.
 
-Lumino
Background Pony #8F14
@LuminoZero
 
Murder is defined as unjustified, intentional homicide. If it is justified, it’s not murder. Executions, therefore, are not murder. Killing in war or rebellion is not (necessarily) murder. Killing in self-defense is not murder.
 
Killing Twilight in this situation could easily fall under one of these categories.
LuminoZero

@BUzer
 
“How dare you possibly weigh all of the options before you!”
 
While I will never claim that murder, for any reason, is a good action, I won’t deny that sometimes it is the right action. If this was some other Monster Of The Week, would AJ give them such a chance? Because she is a personal friend is why AJ is willing to give her a shot, despite all the terrible things she has done. But ignoring the misdeeds of someone you are friends with makes those misdeeds your responsibility as well.
 
If you can live with that or not, that is on you.
 
-Lumino
BUzer
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She seemed to be saying if they failed then she has to die
Yeah, that’s what I meant by “accepted the possibility”.  
She’s seeing it as an option, that’s enough reason for me to hate her.
Zeyon

@BUzer  
Of course Pinkie was against killing, and no, AJ never said the word kill she said that the madness has to stop. I just reread it. She seemed to be saying if they failed then she has to die, but Pinkie ran off. That doesn’t mean to me that she is keen on killing Twilight, however.