@Background Pony #EACD  
None of them give a crap, not really. I get the feeling the animators care more about the show than the writers do, the animation certainly tells a more detailed story most of the time.
 
That said, giving a shit and being competent are entirely separate qualities. Not being too into it shouldn’t prevent you from doing your job if you know how to do it. Maybe you won’t like it, but you can still do it.

@TexasUberAlles  
This BP is such a no life “ebin le bait trawll” that he copypasted the same drivel in several other pictures (now deleted by the mods apparently)

@Background Pony #2205  
Or, alternately, that’s complete hogwash that several show staffers have repeatedly debunked many times.

Now we also have Mike Vogel on board. Reminder it was the mysterious “Hasbro exec” who insisted on Twilicorn, Cadance and Discord reformation.

@Background Pony #EACD  
Let’s put aside your OBJECTIVE OPINIONS ^tm and let’s concentrate on that part “[Haber hired a ]no name person who hasn’t written in over 5 years to do Dash’s big episode also speaks volumes about how competent he is at his job” Like Jarkes pointed out,Levinger had the same track record as Rapp,in your own terms a no name writer that didnt work a lot prior but i also want to point out that your only source about Rapp works is IMDB.While the information are probably accurate,i grant you that they are probably not correct all the time.Writers can do a shit ton of works without being credited and who knows what else Rapp have ever done without being credited in the end credits of a specific work.So no,sorry for the paranoid out there,Haber didnt hire a random bum of the street to write for a TV show.Let those baseless speculations to 4Chan if you dont mind.

@Background Pony #EACD  
Some people actually do dislike writers legitimately you know  
Likewise, some people legitimately like those same writers. Newbie Dash is my second favorite episode of Season 6 so far, and Mysterious Mare Do Well was one of my favorite of S2, specifically because they had so much character development for Dash.

@Background Pony #EACD  
And just because you personally dislike his episodes and movie doesn’t make them objectively bad, nor does it mean everyone agrees with you. Do not project onto others.

@Background Pony #EACD  
Read Jarkes’s comments.

@Background Pony #EACD
 
Oh and btw? Natasha Levinger hadn’t worked on much in years prior to working on season 4, and her episodes are considered some of the best.

@Background Pony #EACD
 
Blah blah blah, my opinion is objective fact, blah blah blah.

@Ihhh  
Some people actually do dislike writers legitimately you know; Haber’s done a pretty shit job so far (Friendship games for example) with the premier being generally viewed as one of the weaker two parters even if people don’t hate it.
 
 
the fact that he was apparently okay with hiring a random No name person who hasn’t written in over 5 years to do Dash’s big episode also speaks volumes about how competent he is at his job. Everyone and their mother saw Newbie dash being bad a mile away when they saw Dave rapp’s resume, and lo and behold, it was one of the most hated episodes of the series, on par with Mysterious mare do well.
 
The fact that he didn’t see something so simple coming and put a no name person in charge of what should have been Dash’s biggest episode EVER (being the fulfillment of her 5 season long Dream) tells me that he simply doesn’t give a crap, or that he’s incredibly incompetent.

@Background Pony #2205  
Oh great, a troll.

@Background Pony #8F11  
I agree. He’s editorial and choice of writers is what mostly make this season the worst.

@Background Pony #8F11  
Umm, no.

Josh Haber is a bad writer IMO. Friendship Games was a disappointment, the Cutie Re-Mark made no sense, and he’s the story editor for Season 6 and wrote “The Crystalling.” Someone at Hasbro or DHX, PLEASE FIRE him and DO NOT LET him WRITE “Legend of Everfree.” Down with Haber and his ridiculous, disappointing, and bad writing/storytelling!

@TexasUberAlles
 
I think this particular BP was being sarcastic. The other one wasn’t though.

@Background Pony #39CA  
it destroys the established alicorn lore  
It doesn’t “destroy” anything; Celestia and Luna both stated outright that FH was a completely new and surprising thing that they hadn’t thought possible, while saying nothing whatsoever about their own origins. Simply adding to lore doesn’t invalidate or ruin anything that’s gone before, the sparse lore of Alicorns onscreen just includes “can be born to an Ascended Alicorn and a Unicorn now”.
 
Sheesh, people are freaking out about this like knowledge is a zero sum game instead of an expanding base; learning something new about a subject in no way implies that everything you knew before is false now.

@Background Pony #F0CC  
Fedora-American detected.
 
@mrdoctorderpy  
Why, the lore carefully and rigorously constructed from the few crumbs of information about alicorns that the show had given us before this season.
 
And the beautiful part about the presentation of Flurry Heart’s birth in “The Crystalling” is that it destroys the established alicorn lore regardless of whether the lore was that alicorns were born or that they were made.

@Background Pony #A9E9  

 
 
What lore?  
The show has not given us alicorn lore

@Background Pony #39CA  
Yeah, except for that character quirk, the episode was excellent bit of slapstick and character interaction, well-timed and well-developed. Awesome.
 
@Background Pony #F0CC  
That’s one bad lesson to take from it. I wouldn’t go as far as saying it accidentally came across as anti-science - though that was one of the many things through my mind at the time; absolutely infuriating - so much as it was completely baffling in its presentation of what it wanted to be for and against in the first place.

@Draco_2k  
The problem is that it wasn’t written like “the difference between science and bad science”. The episode presented Twilight as the “scientist” who is stupid and wrong and is too caught up in blindly believing science to see reality. It never calls her methods “bad science”, it calls them “science” and mocks them for that.
 
The “right” point of view that the episode presented was not “base your scientific theories on observable evidence”, it was “you can’t explain it so you have to choose to believe”. This is not portrayed as the “right” way to be a scientist, but as a better option because the scientist is ignorant and stupid and some things are just beyond science.
 
The people denying the “religion is smart and science is stupid” interpretation are presenting “good science versus bad science” are praising the episode for being smarter than it is. The way Feeling Pinkie Keen is actually written is not an illustration of how good science works, so much as a scathing mockery of science by someone who doesn’t know what science actually is.

@TexasUberAlles  
…Well heck, it’s not like anything of value will be lost by further derailment. I wouldn’t quite say they were “great” episodes, myself, but I did enjoy them. MMDW is a good episode hurt somewhat by a couple of storytelling missteps that weaken the moral, IMHO; SaYS, even if it annoys me by forcing the characters and setting into Standard Sitcom Lifedebt Story, has so many individual scenes and character details that are just wonderful that I still enjoy watching it quite a bit.
 
@Draco_2k  

Yeah, that’s exactly how I see it, but it didn’t really bother me that moral was inescapably undermined by the setting; I was just happy to see the slapstick Looney Tunes spirit captured so faithfully.

@Jarkes  
Everyone messed up at every point, pretty much.
 
Otherwise it’s a great episode though. One of my personal favorites. It’s just easily ruined by the nagging underrunning current of “What the hell are you doing, Twilight?”
 
I’m pretty sure “Pinkie Sense = Metaphor for religion” was just something people were quoting because it was fundamentally stupid. The real problem was that the moral of the story and Twilight’s behavior throughout it made no friggin’ sense and were impossible to decipher. Like, it was meant to be a lesson about how something can be real despite not having an existing explanation - an excellent lesson on one of the foundations of scientific method, by the way - but it just ended up making no sense given the world and the characters involved.
 
Actually I’m not sure in what settings would that make any sense. I don’t know what they could’ve done to make that episode make sense.

@Ebalosus  
[’x’ character is always right] episode  
That’s why my wife doesn’t really like it, so it’s not exactly an uncommon reason, but the episode generated some serious vitriol back in Early Days, and the perceived faith/science argument was the basis of most of the actual arglebargle.
 
I always saw it as more of a commentary on the difference between Science and Bad Science, since Twilight’s motivation was so flawed; she wasn’t setting out to test the veracity of Pinkie’s claims, she was actively trying to disprove them because she had decided in advance that they couldn’t possibly be real, which is a different thing entirely from observing an apparent phenomenon and trying to figure out an explanation for it.

@TexasUberAlles
 
I think Polsky said at a convention later that Feeling Pinkie Keen’s story was meant to be more along the lines of a “Newtonian physics vs. Einsteinian physics” debate. Even he admitted that he had messed up on conveying it properly.