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I was rewatching Mystery on the Friendship Express, and I noticed this peculiar shot.

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Background Pony #3312
@Background Pony #11FE  
For anyone who has not seen A Clockwork Orange, I would highly recommend you watch it. Most people only know it for its first third, with the droogs, but it’s actually a brilliant commentary on society, and the world we live in. Sadly, it’s kind of been trivialized by teenagers who only like it because it’s violent.
 
Well the author of the book it’s based on, Anthony Burgess, has stated that it was never meant to glorify violence. It was intended to be an investigation into the nature of evil and free will. An interview he gave in 1985 even discussed that particular issue.  
Burgess was accused of promoting rape, violence, fornication - criticisms he was still trying to live down at the time of this interview. Burgess said the real intent of the book was to address the conflict between good and evil.
It’s also worth pointing out that the violence itself was supposedly drawn from real life experiences.  
This violence, so brutally rendered in the novel, could have been inspired by an incident from Burgess’s own experience. He claimed that the kernel for Alex’s brutal behaviour lay in an attack suffered by his first wife Llewela (Lynne) Jones. During the wartime blackout of 1944 London, Lynne was beaten up and robbed by a gang of American soldiers. A similar attack happens in the novel, when a writer’s wife is beaten and raped by Alex and his droogs.
However it also has to be said that he was never particularly fond of the book he had written or the movie it inspired.  
“The book I am best known for, or only known for, is a novel I am prepared to repudiate: written a quarter of a century ago, a jeu d’esprit knocked off for money in three weeks, it became known as the raw material for a film which seemed to glorify sex and violence. The film made it easy for readers of the book to misunderstand what it was about, and the misunderstanding will pursue me till I die. I should not have written the book because of this danger of misinterpretation.”
  • Anthony Burgess on A Clockwork Orange (from A Flame Into Being: The Life and Works of D.H. Lawrence)
Later on, Burgess sought to distance himself from Kubrick’s ‘highly coloured and explicit’ film and expressed frustration that he would be remembered for this ‘very minor work’, when there were other novels that he valued more highly.
  • excerpt from the article A Clockwork Orange by the International Anthony Burgess Foundation
It’s hard to blame him either, considering that the movie and American book release changed the ending of his story.  
The final chapter of the book is redemptive, with Alex growing up and renouncing violence of his own accord. The penultimate chapter, which is used to conclude the American edition of the book and Kubrick’s film, has Alex returning to his life of crime with evident pleasure.
  • excerpt from the article A Clockwork Orange by the International Anthony Burgess Foundation
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Background Pony #8062
@Joseph Raszagal  
Yeah, you’re right. I guess I just find it kind of depressing that the majority of kids won’t even watch something as classic as Star Wars because it’s old. And as I’ve said, the only kids I’m familiar with who like A Clockwork Orange, only like it because it’s violent, when the violence in A Clockwork Orange is supposed to disturb you, not entertain you. I tried to pitch intellectual discussions about it, because it’s impressive that they like something that’s old, but nope. All they do is talk about the unpleasant scenes, as if they watched it with a big bowl of popcorn.
 
Kids can amaze, I guess I’m just talking from experience.
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Emily Brickenbrackle III
@BK_Leonidas  
To be fair, I mostly remember it because Redd, from That 70s Show, is one of the main villains. That’ll never stop being hilarious to me.
 
Also, mandatory comment about how the original was waaaaaaaaay better than the sequels, both due to its superior story as well as its superior writing (some of the dialogue in the sequels is just… bad).
 
@Background Pony #11FE  
While they do all come from somewhere, you just admitted that it’s still a generalization.
 
I know plenty of people that I grew up with who are more than capable of watching a film regardless of how old the film is. I was born in ‘88 and one of my favorite films of all time is Psycho. I’ve got a buddy that’s six years younger than me who still refuses to acknowledge the Rambo sequels due to the fact that none of them are even remotely as intelligent or soul-crushingly depressing as First Blood.
 
Again, generalizations aside, kids can impress you. Age does not dictate how well one can relate to art of any kind.
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Background Pony #8062
@Joseph Raszagal  
The problem is that most kids these days refuse to watch anything before the year 2000. The ones that do from my experience only like the films from the surface. It actually makes me really sad, because in an ocean of kids who would think A Clockwork Orange is “boring old people stuff”, there might be that one kid who likes it, but for the completely wrong reason.  
It is a generalization, but all generalizations come from somewhere.
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@Joseph Raszagal  
Okay I think I have a more apt example. The original 1987 version of Robocop. The satire in that movie is now more accurate than when it originally came out but everyone seems to mostly remember how gruesome and violent it got.
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Emily Brickenbrackle III
@Background Pony #11FE  
I find it to be a bit of an oversimplification to say that it’s “millennials” that don’t understand the core of the film, especially due to said film’s age. It’s more about what demographic the millennial in question comes from.
 
I grew up as… fuck, I dunno, one of the “cool losers” that never really fit in with any of the other crowds, as did most of my friends in school. We all enjoyed classes like Film Studies, Psychology, and Music Theory, so films like A Clockwork Orange, Brazil, and 2001: A Space Odyssey were always really fascinating to us.
 
Along those same lines, I can understand why other kids wouldn’t really get into artsy-fartsy movies like those; they’re either just not really interested in them or the messages go over their heads.
 
I just think it’s unfair to say that all millennials fail to enjoy the films due to their young age. Even the youngest of kids can impress you sometimes, you know?
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Background Pony #8062
@Joseph Raszagal  
To be honest, you’d be hard-pressed to find a millenial who likes A Clockwork Orange, keeping in mind it’s an old film. But the rare cases tend to get nothing out of it except “OMG it’s violent”.  
Ignoring the thought-provoking questions it asks regarding our right to do evil being a quality as present in human nature as our ability to do good. Or if the most evil person in the world can really be more evil than an institution bent on power and domination.
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Emily Brickenbrackle III
@BK_Leonidas  
Kinda of, I guess. While the two are hardly the same sort of story, they are quite popular with teens who don’t really care about their in-depth plots or characters.
 
Some kids just wanna murder people in the desert and rape old ladies to a jaunty tune.
 
[Sighs]
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Background Pony #8062
For anyone who has not seen A Clockwork Orange, I would highly recommend you watch it. Most people only know it for its first third, with the droogs, but it’s actually a brilliant commentary on society, and the world we live in. Sadly, it’s kind of been trivialized by teenagers who only like it because it’s violent.
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