yep, applejack sure is the loyalest, most dependable pony in ponyville

@cloudkicker108  
Fair enough

@Adam Griff  
Just because Themultibrony21 later decided to take a more moderate approach does not mean his questionable behavior from before can be ignored. Both sides went too far trying to assert themselves over the other.

@cloudkicker108
 
They still said this @TheMultiBrony21 afterwards  
Also taking out the rest of the statement are we well @TheMultiBrony21 UserAccounts said

so are they trying to strip TheMultiBrony21’s right to an opinion

@Adam Griff  
I agree opinions should be backed up with facts, but neither Themultibrony21 nor UserAccount did that when each declared their own perspective to be the truth.
 
Despite her reassurances, Applejack still failed to explain to Twilight why she would be safe after letting go. It would have only taken a few seconds tops to let her know the pegasi were already waiting to catch her.
 
I don’t know how you missed it, but I’m talking about this line from Themultibrony21:  

 
Not only does he completely dismiss UserAccount’s argument, but the brief explanation he gives following this statement is no more substantial or factually supported than the interpretation provided by UserAccount.

Applejack asked Twilight to make a trust fall based on the idea that she wouldn’t lie to her. While not as straightforward as admitting that you chopped down a cherry tree, it illustrates a few things about AJ’s character and how Twilight feels about her even if it doesn’t outright prove those things. And it’s not that these incidents earned the others their elements, they’re just what caused Twilight to recognize the elements in them.
 
As for the lack of specifics in what she tells Twilight, sometimes people who are overly scared need the reassurance more than they need to know the steps of a plan, because otherwise they’ll transfer their fear over to those steps and focus on everything that could go wrong instead, and then be unable to take action.
 
Now, as to why the pegasi couldn’t just grab her while she hung there and either push her back up or carry her down, I don’t know. I’ll write it off as simply a safer maneuver for them to do it the way they did because this is a kid’s show and really shouldn’t be dissected this much.

@cloudkicker108  
I have to say this. You can argue opinions. To back up your opinions you need facts and unlike opinions facts can be wrong and you’re facts are wrong then people can argue it
 
@cloudkicker108
 
I disagree no vagueness true she could have said “Rainbow and Fluttershy will catch you” but she said “Let go you’ll be safe.” not just “Let go trust me.” still pretty straightforward if you ask me.
 
Also I looked through the comments and I don’t see where you’re coming from with ‘TheMultiBrony21’ ‘striping UserAccount of their right to have an opinion’ in fact I found this @TheMultiBrony21

@cloudkicker108  
No rule, it just seems kinda dumb. A lot can happen in a day. For all you know, I could have formed a friendship with UserAccount. (I haven’t, but just saying.) But, since you pointed it out, I see you’re view point.

@Group935Pony  
Insulting or not, TheMultiBrony21 still completely dismissed (not disagree with) UserAccount’s interpretation. That goes beyond just stating opinions and is frankly kind of rude. Just because you disagree with someone’s opinion doesn’t mean you can strip their right to have it.
 
@TheMultiBrony21  
You didn’t exactly respect his opinion either when you outright dismissed it as false. Also, what’s wrong with responding to a comment posted only one day ago? I can understand leaving comments posted a week or more ago alone, but I don’t see the issue with just one day. Unless there’s some rule on this site I missed?

@cloudkicker108  
Than don’t insult people over a day old comment. It’s rude. At the time, I thought UserAccount was just trying to start something because he didn’t respect my opinion.

@cloudkicker108  
I didn’t call him out because I didn’t think he was being insulting.
 
He was merely stating his opinions and from the way UserAccount posting, it made me think UserAccount was trying to start a flamewar. But that wasn’t the case and I’d like to apologize for jumping to conclusions.

@TheMultiBrony21  
This isn’t about restarting the fire. This is about making sure everyone gets treated fairly.

@cloudkicker108  
We already ended it.
 
Do not restart the fire.

@UserAccount  

 
Exactly. While Applejack was technically telling the truth, she could have been a lot clearer and specific with Twilight.
 
@Group935Pony  
I can’t help but notice that you immediately called out UserAccount for pushing his opinion as fact yet completely ignored TheMultiBrony21 doing the exact same thing before UserAccount. There are no double standards when it comes to calling out bad behavior; you can’t pick and choose between people you agree and disagree with.
 
@TheMultiBrony21  
Don’t play innocent here. You know full well UserAccount only did that in retaliation to you doing it first.
 
@Adam Griff  
Maybe not cryptic, but still incredibly vague. Would it have killed Applejack to also tell Twilight that the pegasi were going to catch her? I’m sure that would have been a lot more comforting that just “let go, trust me”.
 
@genervt  
Not necessarily. For instance, the Storm King was entirely forward about how evil he was (he went as far as to have that announced via loudspeaker), yet you couldn’t pay me to trust the guy.

@Frustration in Excelsis
 
You make a good point. After all, I’m reminded of Mystery on the Friendship Express and how AJ was the only one of the mane six outside of Pinkie and Twilight who didn’t eat the cake. Of course, it’s not that I would have expected Rarity, Fluttershy or Dash to actively screw Pinkie over like that, but it didn’t come as much of a shock to me. Applejack doing it? That would have utterly crippled her and any notion that I had that she was the most trustworthy of the mane six.
 
At the very least, the above scene did highlight a certain staple of Applejack’s character: her willingness to jump in to save others at great personal risk.

@UserAccount
 
I have to disagree she wasn’t cryptic at all just refer to my earlier comment

@genervt  

 
Are they? Just because someone never lies, it doesn’t mean I can trust them. They can withhold information – and if nothing else, they can tell me to my face they mean to harm me physically, emotionally or financially. It’s the idea behind the Card-Carrying Villain, who proudly and clearly announces that they’re evil, and it’s common in the Affably Evil archetype as well; absolute honesty is also a common trait of both devils and fairies – sometimes, they’re physically unable to lie. They’re honest, candid and absolutely truthful – but untrustworthy all the same. Being honest does not prevent deceit; AJ herself has hidden her motives and lied by omission in the show.
 
The opposite of honesty is lying, and the opposite of trustworthiness is deceit; one can easily be deceitful while telling the truth, and someone can be trusted to have your best interests at heart even as they lie to aid or protect you.
 
Regardless, even if honesty and trustworthiness are closely related things, they are still separate – an exercise that best shows one does not always best show the other. This incident showed Applejack as trustworthy, but also weirdly reticent and hesitant about being candid and straightforward with her friends – which, since the episode’s plot is supposed to define her as the honest one, is kind of an issue.

@genervt  
Agreed.

@Frustration in Excelsis  
Somepony who is as honest as AJ is automatically trustworthy.  
One causes the other.

@Adam Griff  
Thank you. But the point of the matter is, everyone has their own opinions. But I agree with you.

‘Let go, and you’ll be safe.’ direct quote from the episode and it was true Twilight was safe after she let go (not that cryptic if you ask me)

@genervt  
… yes, obviously. I thought I made it clear that I agree with that. My issue isn’t that she wasn’t trustworthy, because she was, but that that scene was trying to tell us Applejack has a certain virtue by showing us a different and distinct virtue instead.
 
@UserAccount  
Thank you.

@genervt  

 
@Frustration in Excelsis  

@UserAccount  
I respect your opinion.
 
Now for a very interesting fact: this whole discussion is about the second part of the very first episode of MLP:FiM. Which is kind of stupid do to how old this episode is (8 years).

@Frustration in Excelsis  

 

 
The way she said that was very trust arousing.