Ironic about this Fleecs complaints when the Tirek oneshot by him had some damn good art in my opinion.

@BigMax  
definitely the buttcrack! i’ve seen someone with the behind to match that cover but she didn’t wear spandex so it’s kinda cheating to say the pose is doable but didn’t bother to wear the spandex.

@OptimusPrimevil  
But it’s not that in Manara’s cover there were lady bits shapes, you know.  
It’s that someone thought that position was offensive for some reason - even though Spiderman had the same pose in the past.
 
Let’s be honest here: it’s the buttcrack. It’s just the curve of the buttcrack that goes quite deep. But really.

The funny part? Price is overrated.
 
Fleecs is just that terrible.

@BigMax  
yes but in the vid, if spandex was tight enough to allegedly show spider-man’s balls, surely hispenis (even if not erect) would’ve shown. pretty sure most spandex in comics didn’t even show the underwear lines underneath the suit.  
YMMV on manara’s pose because it can be more easily editted into an inappropriate situation (edit out the rooftop and make it into a big-@$$ bed for example) than the j. scott campbell spider-man that they presented as proof (though campbell’s can be editted to make it look like spidey’s ontop a body).
 
one minor quip about having cosplayers redo the scene as proof that it can be done. they should to it on a table so the right leg would be hanging out, sticking to the wall. most do it on a flat surface so both legs are on the same level. closest one i’ve seen that almost got it right is the right leg on a slightly higher position than the left (but still pretty close)

@OptimusPrimevil  
Well, that is a boner. Manara’s cover had Spider Woman in action, not in anything sexually related.

@biznizz  
geez i don’t hippies recycle as much Greg Land

@BigMax  
vid was ok but should’ve used less insults and curses.
 
though pretty sure no comic superhero in spandex ever had THIS drawn outside of porn.

@biznizz  

 
Yes, it’s indeed the same feeling I had. Zahler isn’t good with ponies, that’s all. But then again, why having him drawing ponies?
 
@OptimusPrimevil  
To be fair, the controversy was really preposterous.

@biznizz  
the manara cover. besides being sexual, complaints about the anatomy and ridiculous spandex (how did it not rip in the butt area, i do not know) are the reasons for the recall IIRC.

@OptimusPrimevil
 
It was. Honestly don’t know if he’s still employed anywhere anymore.
 
The last major bruhaha about pornographic poses being used for comics was that (recalled?) cover for Spider-Woman from a few months ago, which from what I heard sucked so completely, even being part of the Spider-Verse crossover couldn’t save it.
 
Last I heard, Spider-Gwen’s been the arachnid-inspired heroine critical darling.

@biznizz  
wasn’t the joke with land was to send him more porn so he’d update his game?

@angrybrony
 
The issue with tracing is “Where did you trace it from” and “How much do you trace”?
 
Let’s take the UR Tracer in the industry: Greg Land.
 
In one of his books, he gives advice about using photos to make certain poses, such as an ice skater being used to create a Supergirl pose.
 
But he eventually got caught reusing poses & photo references more and more, even finding some poses he used matched pornographic references, making it incredibly skeevie.
 
Then you got the problem of him tracing other artists; there was a JLA issue he ‘drew’ in particular where nearly every single Joker pose was ripped off from Brian Bolland’s work in The Killing Joke.
 
In fact, he’s a pretty good category of Greg Land laziness for convenience.
 
Fleece has, to my knowledge, only used one of his poses once (Twilight pose from the Holiday Special on one of his covers) and used assets from the movie(s) twice, both on phones that are hardly negligable. That’s it.

@OptimusPrimevil  
well it cud be worse i do like most of the comics (at least the ones i read) except for 27 mostly becues i can’t stand bamble and he’s dad

@angrybrony  
if you’re a paid professional, it means you ain’t worth your wages.

@biznizz  
why is tracing such a big deal anyway?

@BigMax
 
Honestly, I don’t find much problem against Fleecs at all, personally. His EqG art is a bit odd, but otherwise fine. The art (as well as the furor I’ve seen with the ‘e’ added to Maud’s name) was the least of the Holiday Special’s problems.
 
Holy crap, Anderson. And you turned that in before the dragondicks connection came out… Wow.
 
As for Zahler… did he honestly do anything else other than that Twilight one-shot? From what little I’ve seen from his normal work, like Love & Capes, he’s not a bad artist, just one not that adapted to drawing Pony. His story wasn’t nearly as bad as some of the newest stuff like the last two arcs from Katie, Ted’s post reveal work, and Jeremy Whitley’s stuff.

@Beau Skunky  
i wish there was to do with them

@angrybrony  
Oh, the “desktop” ponies that are crawling all over the site? (Depending on the image tags.) A pretty good April Fool’s joke, and adorable.

@Beau Skunky  
now if don’t mind, i’ma thwak this sweetie belle on my screen

@angrybrony  
Oh, good point.

@Beau Skunky  
being wrong

@angrybrony  
Being what?

@Beau Skunky  
wen has being ever stopped anyone ever?

@SwordKing  
Yes he is, but is hated regardless. Granted some of his interior work isn’t as good as his cover art, but regardless I don’t think he’s that bad.
 
@The Twelfth Doctor Whoof  
I thought it was proven that fan-accusation of him tracing turned out false when they compared the images he supposedly “traced?”