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Background Pony #11EC
Lucien Sarti who was a French assassin, was the one who fired the magic jelly doughnut. He later turned into a donut at Mexico City during a drug exchange. XD
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@LuminoZero
 
@Dashu
 
Isn’t there an even simpler way to explain it?
 
The issue boils down to the two meanings of the word “Berliner”. To take the example of New York - if a pastry known as a “New Yorker” had existed and the phrase “I am a New Yorker” was used in a Kennedy-like situation, I believe most would agree that it takes wilful misinterpretation to think that it is referring to the pastry.
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@LuminoZero  
I reread my comment multiple times to figure out, how it can be read as “antagonistic” and found… nothing. I’m really not sure what you’re talking about.
 
If this is your attitude, when someone says that you’re wrong, you’re really need to grow a thicker skin.
Background Pony #594B
Fun fact:  
The german word for pancake (Pfannkuchen) is also the word used for Berliner (the jelly filled doughnut) in Berlin (the city).
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@Dashu  
You’re questioning the gullibility of a public who still generally believe that cars explode on impact with mud, vaccines cause autism, and microwaves cook food from the inside out.
LuminoZero

@Dashu
 
OK, sweetheart, you need to calm down. You raised your point, you posted your links, now drop your attitude.
 
I get that you are, apparently, passionate about JFK’s standing as a pastry impostor, but it is no need to be rude.
 
And please, don’t say “Not even mad” or something like that. I’m not saying that you are mad, I’m saying that you are being needlessly antagonistic.
 
-Lumino
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@LuminoZero  
Yeah… No. It is still bullshit. The only truth in that story is that “Berliner” can describe a jelly doughnut (and even that mostly outside of Berlin. In Berlin, it’s rather called a “Pfannkuchen”.).
 
“Ich bin ein Berliner” is just as correct as “Ich bin Berliner” (and only someone with a very strange thought process would think of pastries). In fact, the former is even preferable, since it has more “weight”, befitting of a symbolic gesture. Meanwhile, the latter is more “low-key” and more suited as a literal specification of your residence.
LuminoZero

@Dashu
 
It’s a bit of a stretch, but there is some truth to the story. It’s more a grammar fubar (because German is not simply an elaborate code for English) than it is anything else.
 
It would be the equivalent of a foreign dignitary visiting New York saying they are “The New Yorker” instead of “A”. So does that makes them a newspaper?
 
No, but the screw up of the language is very similar. That’s all it is.
 
-Lumino