BlitztheDragon 
I mean it if ends up working out for her and I’m wrong about all this, cool! It’s one of those many things I’d be happy to be wrong about.
Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)
BlitztheDragon
Okay update on this, apparently it was MSM misrepresenting a noncommittal answer Harris gave about the possibility of appointing a Republican that may or may not have been dodging a trap question. That’s more understandable.
Ah, Crockett is a promising pick.
Commune 
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And in another incident unrelated to this, IDF airstrikes another humanitarian aid convoy by charity Anera, five reportedly killed
All just isolated incidents, I’m sure
marinus18
@Ciaran
“Working together” even with people with objectively bad ideas and corrupt motivations is what got us into trouble in the first place. Harris should do it based on merit and based on rather it will serve the people. Not for the sake of appeasing powerful republicans. The democrats need to make clear they are not going to reach accross the isle and that republicans need to have things that help the people.
“Working together” even with people with objectively bad ideas and corrupt motivations is what got us into trouble in the first place. Harris should do it based on merit and based on rather it will serve the people. Not for the sake of appeasing powerful republicans. The democrats need to make clear they are not going to reach accross the isle and that republicans need to have things that help the people.
marinus18
@Ciaran
Yeah and my question to that was where those people were from.No - you asked:And what do you mean they overwhelmingly supported the civil rights actBut you didn’t even acknowledge my reply.This is why it really feels like you’re not even reading replies, and are just looking for something to argue about.In case there has been a miscommunication, please let me try again - do you agree that the 1964 Civil Rights Act would NOT have passed without support from the Republicans?And do you agree that it was the Democrats who were filibustering the act, and that more Democrats voted against it than Republicans?I’m hoping you can give just a simple yes or no answer, instead of tangenting to where the legislators lived again.No republican from the deep south signed on to it.… Yes, but there WAS ONLY ONE southern Republican at the time.John Tower, who represented Texas at the time, was the ONLY Southern Republican in the legislature at the time.Yes, he DID vote against it. But that is one person. Why does the action of that one individual completely negate the actions of all the Republicans who DID vote for it?
Yeah, the democrats were the main ones blocking it.
BlitztheDragon
Okay nevermind, Harris looks to be making it a promise in a press release.
Liberals are trying to spin this as a 4D chess move on her part, or insisting (hoping) it’ll be a small, token role. Others claim the wording is “noncommittal,” when it looks pretty darn committal to me.
In my unsolicited opinion, it’s bad optics that needlessly antagonizes a voting bloc that has been a big part of her momentum. Hope the libs are correct that this will be pushed out of voters’ minds quickly, because it’s leaving one helluva aftertaste in my mouth.
marinus18
@BlitztheDragon
She is surrounded by people who push this sort of stuff though. Establishment advisors. The whole vow of “all Americans” is what Obama did and he never got anything done. She needs to stick to her base and grow it, not throw it under the bus to chase a center that only exists in the elite. The elite just aren’t a large number. You need the average person and the center of that is Bernie Sanders no matter how much the elite don’t like to admit it.
The political system is massively rigged in favor of republicans. Simply put democrat voters far outnumber them and throwing them under the bus is a bad idea.
She is surrounded by people who push this sort of stuff though. Establishment advisors. The whole vow of “all Americans” is what Obama did and he never got anything done. She needs to stick to her base and grow it, not throw it under the bus to chase a center that only exists in the elite. The elite just aren’t a large number. You need the average person and the center of that is Bernie Sanders no matter how much the elite don’t like to admit it.
The political system is massively rigged in favor of republicans. Simply put democrat voters far outnumber them and throwing them under the bus is a bad idea.
Doing democrat ideas will likely attract republican voters.
BlitztheDragon
Yeah that’s what I’m wondering is if the Very Serious Pundit class are finally getting their way with shaping her campaign.
marinus18
@BlitztheDragon
Unfortunately it seems so. They don’t want her actually serving the working class. Even though that would attract republican voters in droves too. It’s hard to stay loyal to your party if the other one will raise your wages, cancel your debts and feed your kids.
The whole idea of going to the middle is just bad and always has been. You need to create a strength and build on that strength, not throw it away.
Unfortunately it seems so. They don’t want her actually serving the working class. Even though that would attract republican voters in droves too. It’s hard to stay loyal to your party if the other one will raise your wages, cancel your debts and feed your kids.
The whole idea of going to the middle is just bad and always has been. You need to create a strength and build on that strength, not throw it away.
BlueYoshi 
Luna is best pony
The headline says that she WILL appoint a Republican. However, she said in the interview that she WOULD appoint a Republican if she was elected. Will =/= would. Those two are very different words. CNN is mixing up what she is saying.
BlitztheDragon
The image I posted is a press release from the Harris campaign, saying she WILL.
I’ve been going through the interview. She also seems to be ruling out any freeze on arms shipments to Israel for their ongoing genocide. Yep, she’s pretty confident she can win Michigan without the Muslim-American vote.
BlueYoshi
Luna is best pony
Then it looks like the press release made a typo as well. One of the articles I found had this exact from the interview:
Vice President Harris said Thursday she would look to appoint a Republican to a Cabinet position if she wins the presidency in November.
“I’ve got 68 days to go with this election, so I’m not putting the cart before the horse,” Harris told CNN’s Dana Bash. “But I would, I think. I think it’s really important.”
marinus18
@BlueYoshi
I have seen with the border and with Israel she is being dragged to the right just like Obama was. Obama’s attempts to appease the republican elite meant he was one of the most ineffective presidents in history. Kamala should focus on serving the American people, not appeasing the republican elite like Obama did.
I have seen with the border and with Israel she is being dragged to the right just like Obama was. Obama’s attempts to appease the republican elite meant he was one of the most ineffective presidents in history. Kamala should focus on serving the American people, not appeasing the republican elite like Obama did.
Even most right leaning voters if they had to choose between banning abortions and feeding their own kids they will choose the latter. The democrats need to focus on just making people’s lives better and not listen to the objections of the establishment.
BlueYoshi
Luna is best pony
Apparently, one of CNN’s Dana Bash’s question was about Trump stating that Harris “turned black for political purposes.” Harris was like, “Same old tired playbook. Next question, please.” Why did Bash ask that weird question in the interview? I guess CNN really is Fox News 2.0 after they were bought by a conservative back in 2022.
GLponyfan123
@BlitztheDragon
You are right. Harris have already lost the election. We are doomed. Trump is going to win. America will become a Far Right Fascist Dictatorship.
You are right. Harris have already lost the election. We are doomed. Trump is going to win. America will become a Far Right Fascist Dictatorship.
marinus18
@GLponyfan123
Don’t just jump to conclusions like that. We can criticize bad decisions without panicking immediately.
Don’t just jump to conclusions like that. We can criticize bad decisions without panicking immediately.
igotnopicks 
Monado User
@BlueYoshi
They are worse than Fox News. In one of their segments they brought a lot of undecided voters and one of those undecided Voter is a Trump supporter But he said he’ll hear her out. Which would have been a better story not make him an undecided voter.
They are worse than Fox News. In one of their segments they brought a lot of undecided voters and one of those undecided Voter is a Trump supporter But he said he’ll hear her out. Which would have been a better story not make him an undecided voter.
BlueYoshi
Luna is best pony
JD Vance got booed at the Firefighters Union Convention. His response was “Semper Fi,” which means “always faithful” in Latin.
marinus18
@BlitztheDragon
I do wonder why even the democrats are so submissive to Israel. I mean it’s a massive political liability to them and a massive liability to the country as a whole.
I do wonder why even the democrats are so submissive to Israel. I mean it’s a massive political liability to them and a massive liability to the country as a whole.
BlueYoshi
Luna is best pony
Geopolitical reasons is my guess. They need to have some sort of foothold in the Middle East, so they chose Israel.
Natry 
Constant Lurker
@marinus18
Keep in mind that Democrats have historically enjoyed the majority of Jewish voters. They make up a few million, so losing them to the Republicans could be disastrous. The Democrat plan is to assuage Jewish voters and hope the Left will still choose them as the lesser evil.
Keep in mind that Democrats have historically enjoyed the majority of Jewish voters. They make up a few million, so losing them to the Republicans could be disastrous. The Democrat plan is to assuage Jewish voters and hope the Left will still choose them as the lesser evil.
BlitztheDragon
Geopolitics is certainly a part of it, and the situation has been further muddied now that Hezbollah and their Iranian overlords have started lobbing rockets of their own and the IDF has killed Hamas’s leader. But I also think a lot of Democratic leadership - Biden in particular - have irrational emotional attachments to Israel as a concept. They never moved past the mindset of “the Holocaust proved Jews have nowhere else to go and need their own nation.”
Then of course there is the ingrained, unchallenged racism that poisons both parties’ perceptions - of Israel being a western-like “civilized” nation besieged on all sides by hordes of dirty “uncivilized” barbarians.
But ffs they could be doing more to speak out against Bibi and Likud in particular, and start leaning harder on Israel to ease the fuck up. At least attach some damn strings on those regular weapons shipments. Yes I realize the situation has escalated to the point that cutting them off now would start a regional dogpile and cause a hundredfold more carnage, but the blank checks need to stop, especially when Israel’s prime minister is expressing overt contempt of his benefactors and rooting for Trump to win.
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