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Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

Cyborg_pony
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
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@fobone  
Unless you want to say it’s just The Left being authoritarian, The Left wishing to censor what it doesn’t like, The Left becoming the new evangelicals, The left being violent then I suggest you let us give it a name to separate from them.
KingKek42

Plantar Fashiitis
@fobone  
It’s absolutely hilarious. Literally no one claims to be “alt-left”. It’s just another right-wing boogeyman. Projection as usual.
fobone

@Cyborg_pony  
What fucking difference does it make?  
You think anyone is going to play fair or differentiate the left and alt-left? Or just use the latter as demonzation of the side you like the least? And it’s not like the right is damning the alt-right, or am I wrong and people on the right don’t condone the actions of the total fucking wacks like what happened over the past weekend. Because if they are, I haven’t been hearing it.
 
 
@KingKek42  
Seriously. This has been their method of attack for years, it’s only it’s been successful in a post “gamer-gate” world.
Cyborg_pony
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
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@fobone  
I haven’t seen anyone condone ANTIFA’s actions either, and I would like to see the left return to it’s morals and want to help people, in stead of the B.S. ID Politics and I wont support something that doesn’t want certain people.
 
Oh wait! I have seen people condone ANTIFA’s violence, but now they’re called right-wing.
 
So what now? Because if this keeps up, the Left will dissolve as no one will want to be used as a puppet for their gains and having only one political system probably wont end well.
fobone

@Cyborg_pony  
Um yes? I’ve seen the left condemn the actions of the left tenfold, usually when people die or are threatened. Which is far more than what I’ve seen from the “far right” or whatever.
 
Also, you’re deflecting from the issue playing the strawman, because the right isn’t doing so well right now either despite what you may think and is only getting worse.
 
If both sides are burning, and neither is willing to take the blame, both sides are still burning.
Cyborg_pony
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Thread Starter - Started a thread with over 100 pages

@fobone  
Every time I’ve seen left-leaning people condemn left extremism, they’re labeled right-wing or they praise or ignore the violence they caused.
 
Not saying that there aren’t bad elements of the right-wing extremism, but they’re always seen as bad.
 
And yes, both sides are getting worse, because the extremes are taking over.
 
So what do you want? You seem to be not for calling out, because that video WAS calling out what the extreme left is doing. Whether it’s labeled “Alt” or not shouldn’t make any difference, but for some reason you don’t seem to like it.
 
I’d also like to add in the video: He doesn’t say the alt left. He just has it in quotations in the description.
KingKek42

Plantar Fashiitis
@fobone
Not saying that there aren’t bad elements of the right-wing extremism, but they’re always seen as bad.
 
What kind of fuckery is this? ISIS, the kkk, nazis, white supremacists are all objectively bad. It’s not even debatable.
fobone

@Cyborg_pony  
Then you’re being willfully ignorant for your own confirmation bias.
 
And if there are bad elements, then call them out. There never used to be this drastic of a division between the right and the left, even during the Bush years people wouldn’t damn the other so easily as they do now, and from what I’ve seen the right is FAR more willing to forgive anything their side does than not.
 
And it’s good you can see extremes are taking over…so what are YOU going to do about it?
 
The difference between the Alt Right and “Alt Left” is that Right did nothing to sway that notion of it being part of it until I guess relatively recently, the Right wore it’s Alt Right badge with honor because “it triggered those libs lol” without taking into consideration what it actually meant. It wasn’t until a few days ago did they start lumping “Alt Right and Alt Left” together because god fucking forbid the right takes some self responsibility for what their side of the political spectrum does, just try to pretend they don’t exist and maybe they’ll go away. It certainly doesn’t help people are literally dying because the action and inaction of doing so.
 
And again, this “Alt” bullshit doesn’t do anything but demonize one side more, pretending like it creates some sort of noticeable division between the a rational and radical leftest is naive. Because let me ask you how long before people start using “Alt Left” to demonize all leftists, regardless of action?
 
If you want to prove to me “Alt Left” isn’t just a propaganda name calling to create another boogeyman, then show me you’re willing to damn the Alt-Right too with more than just words or pretending like they were never part of the acceptable Right.
Cyborg_pony
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Thread Starter - Started a thread with over 100 pages

@fobone  
I am willing to condemn any violence the Alt right has committed.
 
However, I will not say they don’t have the freedom of speech.
 
Also, I’d like to add:  
You do realize Richard Spencer and the alt right wouldn’t be so relevant if not for the sucker punch and the one side declaring it a victory and declaring it okay?
 
The Alt right grew because of how people from the other political leaning acted, calling anyone that doesn’t agree with them deplorable, racist, whatever buzzword they could milk. They made impossible to separate anyone non-racist, but racists. They just lumped and labeled.
KingKek42

Plantar Fashiitis
@fobone
I am willing to condemn any violence the Alt right has committed.
 
We’re waiting. But seeing how you don’t think all far right extremism is bad, I’m not holding my breath.  
@fobone
The Alt right grew because of how people from the other political leaning acted, calling anyone that doesn’t agree with them deplorable, racist, whatever buzzword they could milk. They made impossible to separate anyone non-racist, but racists. They lust lumped and labeled.
 
Well that just brings us back to “If you keep calling me a racist for doing racist things, then I’ll just have to become a racist because I got my feelings hurt.”
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