The Anti-Nazi DNP Pledge
FallenGuardian 
Soft and Furious
@someoneelse
I tried at first, but got lost and gave up too quickly. Some of them don’t even come here to state it, just throw out a snippet on Tumblr. The ones I’ve seen, anyway.
@Background Pony #7131
There was/is no nazi propaganda. It breaks Rule #0, and therefore is deleted upon being reported accordingly. What IS here, however, is a useless fictional character that was half punching bag half porn fodder, and an extra 10% of edgy memes on top. 1.1 entire pone, i know. Enough to keep the edgy kids from causing trouble, and giving them the chance to learn, in the odd case that they didn’t know better.
I tried at first, but got lost and gave up too quickly. Some of them don’t even come here to state it, just throw out a snippet on Tumblr. The ones I’ve seen, anyway.
@Background Pony #7131
There was/is no nazi propaganda. It breaks Rule #0, and therefore is deleted upon being reported accordingly. What IS here, however, is a useless fictional character that was half punching bag half porn fodder, and an extra 10% of edgy memes on top. 1.1 entire pone, i know. Enough to keep the edgy kids from causing trouble, and giving them the chance to learn, in the odd case that they didn’t know better.
Doof.Ex.Machina
Blind Idiot
So when someone forces others to censor and silence not even serious statements but jokes and political satire, it’s not cowardice but a sign of bravery? When you shut down their opinion and literally force other artists out, it’s okay, but when it’s free to express and everyone is equal it’s “oh so terrible and oh they’re such cowards I’m outta here I can’t stand it”?
FallenGuardian
Soft and Furious
@Background Pony #7131
Didn’t see such reactions to the good ones.
The ones drawn like racist caricatures, though…
Didn’t see such reactions to the good ones.
The ones drawn like racist caricatures, though…
Background Pony #6122
@Background Pony #7131
A lot of the early black twilight was made for the purpose of baiting a shitposting, it is far less the case nowadays.
There’s also a difference between just the art and mouthpieces, there’s a reason this gets upvote but this doesn’t.
A lot of the early black twilight was made for the purpose of baiting a shitposting, it is far less the case nowadays.
There’s also a difference between just the art and mouthpieces, there’s a reason this gets upvote but this doesn’t.
Background Pony #259D
@Background Pony #7131
The reason being that Aryanne is an idiot. Unironically making the Mane 6 Arab and giving them hijabs isn’t “pandering to the SJW crowd” it’s just plain stupid. Twilight comes from a high rich society, and people mostly see her as white. Rainbow is a stunt pony who does outrageous things, and I can see her as either white, or mixed, but not full on black.
Fluttershy is an animal caretaker of the forest and is generally kind to everything, I can see her as white.
Rarity…
Applejack is tanned, but also white because apparently having black people working on farms is racist, and yes I know history but plantations and farms are two different games
then Pinkie Pie is the only one I can see being white, latino, or mixed, but again not full on black.
It’s all matter of perspective and seeing ponies who come from different life styles based on American/European life makes it odd to see them wearing hijabs, especially considering Applejack is southerner and Rarity is a valley girl
The reason being that Aryanne is an idiot. Unironically making the Mane 6 Arab and giving them hijabs isn’t “pandering to the SJW crowd” it’s just plain stupid. Twilight comes from a high rich society, and people mostly see her as white. Rainbow is a stunt pony who does outrageous things, and I can see her as either white, or mixed, but not full on black.
Fluttershy is an animal caretaker of the forest and is generally kind to everything, I can see her as white.
Rarity…
Applejack is tanned, but also white because apparently having black people working on farms is racist, and yes I know history but plantations and farms are two different games
then Pinkie Pie is the only one I can see being white, latino, or mixed, but again not full on black.
It’s all matter of perspective and seeing ponies who come from different life styles based on American/European life makes it odd to see them wearing hijabs, especially considering Applejack is southerner and Rarity is a valley girl
andthusthebelltolls 
TSP more like gay
@Background Pony #7131
yes, it is, but this isnt it, if we had an actual problem we could expect the amount of works showing it to be larger than margin of error and statistically significant, its less than a twentieth of a percent, wheras to be statistically significant it needs to exceed 3 percent
in addition, not liking non-white humanizations and racism are not the same, i dislike many non white humanizations thats just because i cant personally see many of the cast as black, if more of them were portrayed in a way that changed this i wouldnt, thats more the shows fault than anything
yes, it is, but this isnt it, if we had an actual problem we could expect the amount of works showing it to be larger than margin of error and statistically significant, its less than a twentieth of a percent, wheras to be statistically significant it needs to exceed 3 percent
in addition, not liking non-white humanizations and racism are not the same, i dislike many non white humanizations thats just because i cant personally see many of the cast as black, if more of them were portrayed in a way that changed this i wouldnt, thats more the shows fault than anything
Background Pony #7131
@Doof.Ex.Machina
What is Aryanne satirizing, exactly?
Works like The Great Dictator, The Producers, etc. made fun of Nazis and depicted them as fools. The Nazis were the butt of the joke.
In Aryanne’s case, who’s actually being made fun of when someone posts a cute cartoon horse bearing a swastika and calling for the death of minorities and “degenerates?” She isn’t typically depicted as being foolish or wrong; She’s shown as an object of adoration or sometimes lust, but not usually depicted in an antagonistic or unfavorable light by the people who draw her.
If she’s satire, she’s almost always used as pro-Nazi satire.
What is Aryanne satirizing, exactly?
Works like The Great Dictator, The Producers, etc. made fun of Nazis and depicted them as fools. The Nazis were the butt of the joke.
In Aryanne’s case, who’s actually being made fun of when someone posts a cute cartoon horse bearing a swastika and calling for the death of minorities and “degenerates?” She isn’t typically depicted as being foolish or wrong; She’s shown as an object of adoration or sometimes lust, but not usually depicted in an antagonistic or unfavorable light by the people who draw her.
If she’s satire, she’s almost always used as pro-Nazi satire.
Background Pony #E3A3
The paradox of tolerance is wholly irrelevant here because actual Nazi propaganda is still against the rules. Most Aryanne content is either dark humor or fetish material.
tl;dr - A society that “tolerates” intolerant ideologies will be overrun by those ideologies and no longer be “tolerant.”There is nothing to “love or tolerate” about nazi apologia.
The paradox of tolerance is wholly irrelevant here because actual Nazi propaganda is still against the rules. Most Aryanne content is either dark humor or fetish material.
Background Pony #7131
@someoneelse
“portrayed a certain way” doesn’t make sense with regard to race Unless you think race correlates to personality, and it doesn’t.
That’s the point; Thinking humanizations are invalid because “only white people talk and act like that” relies on racial stereotyping. I guarantee you that plenty of people in this fandom - of all races - can see themselves in the mane six.
“portrayed a certain way” doesn’t make sense with regard to race Unless you think race correlates to personality, and it doesn’t.
That’s the point; Thinking humanizations are invalid because “only white people talk and act like that” relies on racial stereotyping. I guarantee you that plenty of people in this fandom - of all races - can see themselves in the mane six.
Background Pony #259D
And there in lies the problem: She’s not. The whole joke AGAIN is that she’s an Earth Pony who thinks she’s a Unicorn. She is literally an idiot
If she’s satire, she’s almost always used as pro-Nazi satire.
And there in lies the problem: She’s not. The whole joke AGAIN is that she’s an Earth Pony who thinks she’s a Unicorn. She is literally an idiot
andthusthebelltolls
TSP more like gay
the paradox of tolerance was irrelevant because it was never accurate, looking at the world as a whole it has trended for tolerance, and still fucking is, this flies in the face of that and shows it was never a paradox to begin with, we cant let the US focus make us ignore the fact that, looking at the statistics, the world is getting better by the second and we’re just too stupid to see it
andthusthebelltolls
TSP more like gay
@Background Pony #7131
having grown up in minority areas, amid the poorest of the poor as one of them, i can say without a doubt, that black people do indeed have certain ways of behaving and expressing themselves that is unique to them, even the ones that, like me, tried to become more educated and mimic the behaviors of the upper class students we saw, this isnt a bad thing, its ok for other races to have differences, as long as we realize the truth, that those differences are not bad, or negative (and to be certain, im not one of those racist fucks that says this kind of thing than leads it into a spiel about how blacks are naturally less intelligent, i fucking hate those people)
having grown up in minority areas, amid the poorest of the poor as one of them, i can say without a doubt, that black people do indeed have certain ways of behaving and expressing themselves that is unique to them, even the ones that, like me, tried to become more educated and mimic the behaviors of the upper class students we saw, this isnt a bad thing, its ok for other races to have differences, as long as we realize the truth, that those differences are not bad, or negative (and to be certain, im not one of those racist fucks that says this kind of thing than leads it into a spiel about how blacks are naturally less intelligent, i fucking hate those people)
Background Pony #F618
@Background Pony #259D
Hold up.
You don’t seem to care what race the ponies belong to. Good, but why are you considering racial interpretations based on how they act? How does one act black? How does one act asian or white?
Distance yourself from the stereotyping.
“What skin color are the human Mane 6?”, is a very dead horse.
Even the show makes the black = zebra a false equivalence
Hold up.
You don’t seem to care what race the ponies belong to. Good, but why are you considering racial interpretations based on how they act? How does one act black? How does one act asian or white?
Distance yourself from the stereotyping.
“What skin color are the human Mane 6?”, is a very dead horse.
Even the show makes the black = zebra a false equivalence
Background Pony #1061
@someoneelse
The Paradox of Tolerance translated to plain English:
We Want to Censor You Because We’re Afraid of You Censoring Us Because We’d Censor You Given Half the Chance.
The Paradox of Tolerance translated to plain English:
We Want to Censor You Because We’re Afraid of You Censoring Us Because We’d Censor You Given Half the Chance.
FallenGuardian
Soft and Furious
@Doof.Ex.Machina
Their dislike of moral consistency is the only thing that seems truly consistent among them. It’s sad, in a way. At least places like this helped me learn better, back when I first stumbled upon this place. Never quite had an edgy internet phase, or a self-righteous one like these folks.
Also, Tumblr was a big (positive) influence. Shocking, I know, but it turned out pretty well for me. Healthy use of filters and peacefully ignoring unpleasant content, amirite? Was good practice in tolerating hate and stupidity.
Their dislike of moral consistency is the only thing that seems truly consistent among them. It’s sad, in a way. At least places like this helped me learn better, back when I first stumbled upon this place. Never quite had an edgy internet phase, or a self-righteous one like these folks.
Also, Tumblr was a big (positive) influence. Shocking, I know, but it turned out pretty well for me. Healthy use of filters and peacefully ignoring unpleasant content, amirite? Was good practice in tolerating hate and stupidity.
Background Pony #3E78
@Background Pony #7131
She is satire of ponies. In order to be satire of ponies and to use her persona in order to create a joke, there has to be something absurd about making a pony a nazi. A pony is a pure and somewhat childlike creature from a child’s cartoon. In order for it to be absurd to mix a nazi with a pony, a nazi must be the opposite of a pony, to some degree.
In other words, in order for there to be a joke at all, one would have to understand that ponies are good and that nazis are bad. That’s the joke. Nobody needs to show the nazi being stupid because it’s a NAZI. It IS stupid.
Thus, a cute and simplified aryanne calling for the death of jews is satire of what it is to be a pony. This satire points out the flaw of the inherent trust we have in cute things. It satirizes pony, and that satire requires that nazis are ridiculous, which means it is ridicule.
She is satire of ponies. In order to be satire of ponies and to use her persona in order to create a joke, there has to be something absurd about making a pony a nazi. A pony is a pure and somewhat childlike creature from a child’s cartoon. In order for it to be absurd to mix a nazi with a pony, a nazi must be the opposite of a pony, to some degree.
In other words, in order for there to be a joke at all, one would have to understand that ponies are good and that nazis are bad. That’s the joke. Nobody needs to show the nazi being stupid because it’s a NAZI. It IS stupid.
Thus, a cute and simplified aryanne calling for the death of jews is satire of what it is to be a pony. This satire points out the flaw of the inherent trust we have in cute things. It satirizes pony, and that satire requires that nazis are ridiculous, which means it is ridicule.
Background Pony #1061
@Background Pony #3E78
I can’t help but be reminded of that one time a Scotsman was charged with hate speech, for a YouTube video of him “turning” his girlfriend’s pug into “the least cute thing [he could] think of” – a Nazi.
I can’t help but be reminded of that one time a Scotsman was charged with hate speech, for a YouTube video of him “turning” his girlfriend’s pug into “the least cute thing [he could] think of” – a Nazi.
andthusthebelltolls
TSP more like gay
@Background Pony #1061
not really, thats reductive, its more
we know you are more willing to perform violence, so we are willing to censor you in an attempt to stop said violence
this misses that they will coordinate anyway, and that the isolation makes it easier for them to recruit, not harder
well, that and the fact that people on the tolerant side are capable of violent resistance to a violent intolerant side, and, because the paradox of tolerance requires a majority tolerance population, any conflict is likely to be in their favor, yet another point against it
not really, thats reductive, its more
we know you are more willing to perform violence, so we are willing to censor you in an attempt to stop said violence
this misses that they will coordinate anyway, and that the isolation makes it easier for them to recruit, not harder
well, that and the fact that people on the tolerant side are capable of violent resistance to a violent intolerant side, and, because the paradox of tolerance requires a majority tolerance population, any conflict is likely to be in their favor, yet another point against it
FallenGuardian
That always feels like the way to go. When people are given the chance to burn bridges, everyone suffers for it. Even if they don’t have any agreement, just getting people to coexist without fighting is a huge step to solving their mutual issues.
@someoneelse
Seems like the reason some people are so desperate to ignite conflict where there is none. I genuinely don’t understand the endgame, though. They know what they’re doing; They understand what it leads to; Then… why?
@Background Pony #E3A3
Precisely.
Soft and Furious
@silbasa
<3I try to keep people together even when they disagree. A disagreement is not a good reason to turn into enemy forces, in my opinion.
That always feels like the way to go. When people are given the chance to burn bridges, everyone suffers for it. Even if they don’t have any agreement, just getting people to coexist without fighting is a huge step to solving their mutual issues.
@someoneelse
the paradox of tolerance was irrelevant because it was never accurate, looking at the world as a whole it has trended for tolerance, and still fucking is, this flies in the face of that and shows it was never a paradox to begin with, we cant let the US focus make us ignore the fact that, looking at the statistics, the world is getting better by the second and we’re just too stupid to see it
Seems like the reason some people are so desperate to ignite conflict where there is none. I genuinely don’t understand the endgame, though. They know what they’re doing; They understand what it leads to; Then… why?
@Background Pony #E3A3
Precisely.
FallenGuardian
Wow, never thought I’d see this kind of analysis here of all times and places. Thank you.
Soft and Furious
@Background Pony #7131
She is satire of ponies. In order to be satire of ponies and to use her persona in order to create a joke, there has to be something absurd about making a pony a nazi. A pony is a pure and somewhat childlike creature from a child’s cartoon. In order for it to be absurd to mix a nazi with a pony, a nazi must be the opposite of a pony, to some degree.In other words, in order for there to be a joke at all, one would have to understand that ponies are good and that nazis are bad. That’s the joke. Nobody needs to show the nazi being stupid because it’s a NAZI. It IS stupid.Thus, a cute and simplified aryanne calling for the death of jews is satire of what it is to be a pony. This satire points out the flaw of the inherent trust we have in cute things. It satirizes pony, and that satire requires that nazis are ridiculous, which means it is ridicule.
Wow, never thought I’d see this kind of analysis here of all times and places. Thank you.
Doof.Ex.Machina
Blind Idiot
@Background Pony #7131
Aryanne isn’t everything. The pic of zebra looters in Wootmaster’s twit as well as other anti-BLM stuff can be considered satire, I s’pose?
Nonetheless, adoration of a fictional character doesn’t make you a real-life supporter of whatever that character thinks. Do Wh40k’s Imperium players cry for totalitarianism, theocratic tyranny and xenophobia? Do those who like Palpatine’s Empire in Star Wars want the same? It’s the purpose of fiction: to feel yourself a part of something you couldn’t or wouldn’t think of IRL.
Aryanne isn’t everything. The pic of zebra looters in Wootmaster’s twit as well as other anti-BLM stuff can be considered satire, I s’pose?
Nonetheless, adoration of a fictional character doesn’t make you a real-life supporter of whatever that character thinks. Do Wh40k’s Imperium players cry for totalitarianism, theocratic tyranny and xenophobia? Do those who like Palpatine’s Empire in Star Wars want the same? It’s the purpose of fiction: to feel yourself a part of something you couldn’t or wouldn’t think of IRL.
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