Unpopular opinion time

I noticed that you often criticize g4 compared to g5 so do you think the opposite it’s ok? someone criticizes the g5 comparing it to the g4 (something that many people already do but many g5 stans complains)

@CloudMistDragon
>Calling Starlight best pony
This MV guy is mega based

@Mr.Myoozik
I mean, he’s already done that.

@WaynePonePone
SUPER MEGA ULTRA BASED

@Background Pony #83E4
G4 good, g5 bad is already common yes but the opposite is otherwise rare. And I thought I wanted to see more of these guys. I take it back.

@Background Pony #83E4
So, while I do compare the two a lot, my actual criticisms of G4 aren’t based on G5. I had a long, unconscious list of things I did and didn’t know I wanted a future generation to do differently, and G5 just happened to do a bunch of them. I would probably feel the same way about G4 even if there was no G5.

@DerpyFast
My G4 criticisms aren’t based on G5 either. It just so happens that for years, fans always complained about G4. And then G4 was perfect when G5 came out despite flaws from it being carried over into G5 while improvements G5 made were ignored. Comparisons are inevitably going to be made, but it doesn’t change what I like and don’t like about G4. For example, I always liked reformed Starlight, never liked how her reformation was rushed, and Misty’s reformation being done far better than hers did nothing to change those views.

so it’s ok to compare?

@CloudMistDragon
I personally didn’t think her reformation was that rushed. Immediately after she turned over a new leaf, it was clear that she didn’t understand how friendship worked and had trouble adjusting to her new life free from her ideology. One of her first focus episodes was about her using a spell that brainwashed her friends since she didn’t see how wrong it was and shows that she still has her villainy biases from her past.

@Mr.Myoozik
In the Season 5 finale, her reformation definitely felt rushed.

@CloudMistDragon
That yes, it was. The good thing is that throughout Season 6, it showed that she was a work in progress

@Background Pony #83E4
I think so, as long as we’re talking about G4 as it is, and not how the fandom collectively remembers/imagines G4.

As fast as it happens, Starlight’s turn in Season 5 remains my favorite. The voice acting, the dialogue, the music, the setting, it all just clicks for me. Has the right amount of gravitas

This fandom ignoring every problem of G4 to make G5 look bad is kind of like how people ignore the problems with Star Wars prequels to make the sequels look bad. Granted the sequels are pretty bad but still.

@Mr.Myoozik
Not many people will realise an accident is well…an accident and not deliberate. I know when someone is deliberate and sometimes they have a bad day. By no fault of yours even, and you just so happen to be their target of venting.

@WaynePonePone
Yeah, Disney’s Star Wars movies, they’re not good, that horse has been beaten into the ground enough. So why do people have to cut context and lie to make them look worse? The prequels, I appreciate more now, but I still see that they are filled with stupidity. Their stupidity is more funny bad as opposed to the more frustrating bad stupidity of the sequels, but I’m not going to fool myself with nostalgia goggles into thinking their problems are magically gone.

Also, fandom parallels aside, I’m sure people know how much I weary G5 getting compared to the Star Wars sequels. Like…even if I was one of the people who thought the Star Wars sequels were actually good, it would irritate me, since MLP is nothing like Star Wars the same way it’s nothing like Marvel or Lord of the Rings. Even if we’re just talking franchise mishandling comparisons, it’s inappropriate. Star Wars was bought out and driven into the ground by a megacorporation. MLP, on the other hand, has always been a cartoon meant to sell a corporation’s products.

@WaynePonePone
I never ignored the issues of G4. I just think it was overall better than G5, which has more issues. :P

@CloudMistDragon
Same as how the prequels have many issues, but are still overall better than the sequel trilogy. Which have even more issues.

FiM had many issues. Especially late in the series. Starlight’s redemption, the student six, Discord being Grogar, a lot of OOC moments.
But G5 just feels so bland and lacking in soul. It feels corporate. Underdeveloped characters, Sparky, weird plots, one of the worst villains in MLP ever. Being set in the same universe as FiM for no real reason.

@Mikey
Tell me, does TYT have soul?

While I don’t mind the Legion of Doom getting petrified, I personally don’t think Tirek was beyond redemption, but he’d definitely need to have a heart-to-heart with his brother and father.

I for one also enjoy Starlight’s turn. My favorite moment will always be “YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ME?! I’LL SHOW YOU!!”

@TheQuietMan
Meh. It’s no different than PL. G5 has cute and memorable characters, and the interactions are fine. The writing is just not there.

@WaynePonePone
Her redemption arc in Season 6 and 7 I liked, but her reasoning for becoming evil was crap. No one is that realistically deranged that losing a friend makes you enslave a town of gullible ponies.

@Mikey
Clearly you haven’t heard of many deranged people. Including us.

@Tiger beetle
I’ve always thought Tirek would legitimately be the most likely to accept redemption of the 3.

But he’s not a hot bug lady or a cute golly so he’s never brought up except in the context of the Legion as a whole.

@Mikey
Starlight’s reasoning being bad is a common thing for people to think, but like no one else has any actual motivation for their actions. I mean what was Luna’s reason again? Oh no, ponies have to take rest during the night, a natural thing to do. Time to bless them with no more Vitamin D.