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@river mines
A fun fact I think Fluttershy was once going to be an Earth Pony but Faust her to a Pegasus to make each pony race have equal members.
And I think that gave an interesting sight where we have two pegasi, one the typical hot blooded pegasus like Dash and the odd atypical caring pegasus Shy.
For earth ponies, we had Applejack who seems to be the typical reliable earth pony and Pinkie an unusually hyper pony compared to her more down to earth earth pony family.
And for unicorns, Twiligh and Rarity are both in line with typical unicorn attributes. Woth Twilight being more about organization, knowledge and wisdom while Rarity being more about creativity and artistry.
I think all six helped flesh out the cultures of each race well in the 1st season.
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@Midnox
The movie never gave her enough screen time to actually flesh out her character much.
But yes, she was completely justified in kicking the Mane Six out because Twilight tried to betray their trust to steal something.
Hollowfox, Always The Worst Person
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No offense but it does not change the fact that she cares about herself and her kingdom than Equestria.
Hell, when she arrived to Equestria she grounded Skystar because she dared to save Equestria instead of being grateful and forgiving the Mane Six (especially Twi) for the pearl shit.
I liked Novo’s VA when she was Bismuth.
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@Hollowfox, Always The Worst Person
I guess Queen Novo is understandable in her motivations but I do agree she definitely worried more about her own people than Equestria’s. Is that a Neville Chamberlain reference?!?!
I think Novo and Twilights actions both are a bit ambiguous. Frankly I feel like if Novo were in Twilight’s position she might have stolen the orb too.
I am prone to sympathize more with Skystar’s position but I can see Novo’s view.
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IIRC, she was an Earth pony - back when Faust wanted the G4 Mane Six to be updated versions of G1 characters (she was Posey, an Earth pony, while Pinkie Pie was Surprise, a Pegasus).
Just for reference, the others were:
  • Rainbow Dash - Firefly
  • Rarity - Sparkler (I think, can’t remember this one 100%)
  • Twilight Sparkle - Twilight (I can’t remember if she was just “Twilight” or “Twilight Twinkle”)
And then, of course, she got her way with Applejack and Spike (but I believe that was mostly due to there being G3 characters under those names as well)
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@Cosmas-the-Explorer
What about g5’s? With Hitch in the mix?
@Twiface
Oh boy, worse part is it was gonna work anyway until Twilight did that out of self-doubt and forgot she’s the princess of Friendship. It’s like Superman but he doesn’t ever use his powers even when he could.
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Victory over chivalry
Midnight Sparkle’s take as an evil Twilight is rather off when you rewatch the thing.
Many people took her as what happens if Twilight succumbs to her evil desires except that’s not what happens at all.
From the get go there’s the Sci-Twi/Pony-Twi issue. Both Twilights are very different personality-wise, it’s usually the thing about the “Evil-Superman”: No, you are making someone with the powers of Superman but evil. Evil Superman cannot fully exists outside of sporadic stories like Injustice because you’d need to take Clark Kent off the equation. Since both Twilights have rather different temperaments and personalities it’s not really that clear if Pony-Twi is as corruptible to become a villain. In regards of Sci-Twi it does happen but there’s another weird things I found up there.
Second thing, Sci-Twi’s corruption feels almost entirely the magic’s blame. Many other characters that turn corrupted with evil magic already showcased emotional and moral failings and the magic itself is reactive to said flaws, Sci-Twi being meek and manipulated doesn’t really fully justify why she’d become evil, one can infer secret resentment but is never elaborated upon and again other characters do highlight being rotten until something bad happens with corrupting magic. So pre corruption she’s barely an antagonist, she’s in fact more of a tribute sheep for a demon. More similar to the Shadow Queen possessing Peach.
And three, Midnight Sparkle is insane in many ways. She wants to study magic by apparently ripping everything apart. This is not to say it’s incongruent with the story, she’s bonkers so you can’t really reason with her. But said lack of connection in the trail of thought could hardly be in line with a typical Evil Twilight. More like a “drugged up Twilight” perhaps but still.
In the end, I really doubt Midnight Sparkle can be considered a potential of evil for Twilight. She lacks the typical “Jealous sister Nightmare Moon” o “Overtly ambitious Evil Shimmer” to say Twilight should watch her own morality. Sci-Twi again hardly did anything antagonistic and seems more like the magic merely brute force a corruption against someone, and Pony Twi simply doesn’t seem plausible.
@TheQuietMan
Considering how many fuckups the mane 6 have been doing at that point and how many of them almost destroy them, I don’t blame Twilight for not trusting the Mane 6.
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For one: it’s weird how Sci-Twi was easily forgiven compared to how Sunset Shimmer was forgiven. (Even though I thought everyone will hate SciTwi because she was in Shadowbolts and became Midnight Sparkle much to the fear of Abacus Cinch just like Sunset was hated by everyone after the events of the first EG film)
For two: they’re her friends, but she chose the world over them.
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I personally don’t think there’s a single bad episode of Friendship is Magic. There are definitely episodes that are weaker than others, but I wouldn’t call any of them absolutely horrible. Some people are just way too critical of a little girls’ show.
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Is the Equestria Girls series worth getting into?
I only watched the first movie and I found it really mid with a forgettable story.
But I did hear the other movies are superior. I hear Adagio is a good villian for instance.
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Victory over chivalry
@Latecomer
Assuming she could exist and Twilight can be actually broken.
People are fans of the fallen hero concept for some reason.
@Hollowfox, Always The Worst Person
Sci-Twi wasn’t really rude or nasty towards anyone, quite the oposite she’s kind of a doormat. And while the whole school rivalry is something you could bring, that hardly accounts to anything, the main characters immediately jump into her defense and they’re well aware magic can cause people get bonkers.
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@Twi Clown
That explains the quick forgiveness compared to what Sunset went through.
Although I wish Sci-Twi didn’t hate Flash Sentry and I also wish Abacus Cinch wasn’t scared of Midnight Sparkle, because A) that’s NOT how a villain should act and B) being scared of Midnight will make people think Sci-Twi is the real villain of EG3 and NOT Cinch.
And before you ask that she doesn’t hate him, why did she cheat on him with Timber Spruce?
And if you say “Sci-Twi is a different Twilight and not the same” then they should have made a different character inspired by Twilight and NOT make a Twilight that’s not the same and yet looks the same.
I mean, do you want Pony Twilight to HATE Timber the same way SciTwi hated Flash?! Or hell, even worse, Pony Twilight being heartbroken that Flash doesn’t love her anymore because of Sci-Twi? (Which is something I should have said almost 10 years ago or nine but what the heck)
Zabilac

Although I wish Sci-Twi didn’t hate Flash Sentry and I also wish Abacus Cinch wasn’t scared of Midnight Sparkle, because A) that’s NOT how a villain should act and B) being scared of Midnight will make people think Sci-Twi is the real villain of EG3 and NOT Cinch
tbf Cinch is ultimately an ordinary woman with no powers at all. Midnight Sparkle is, in her eyes, a demonic being with strange magic who can rip open portals to another dimension and is inadvertly destroying their own world. I’d be scared too.
And before you ask that she doesn’t hate him, why did she cheat on him with Timber Spruce?
I never got the impression Sci-Twi hated Flash. She just didn’t know him so she ignored him, and never developed a crush on him like pony-Twilight. She didn’t cheat on him either since the two were never in a relationship anyway.
And if you say “Sci-Twi is a different Twilight and not the same” then they should have made a different character inspired by Twilight and NOT make a Twilight that’s not the same and yet looks the same.
Personally I consider the EQG Mane Six girls to be somewhat different from the pony Mane Six. That’s the whole point of alternate versions of the characters.
Zabilac

Yeah, but my impression is that HollowFox thinks Sci-Twi and Twilight are the same person so Twilight being in a relationship with Flash meant Sci-Twi was in a relationship with him or something like that. Could be wrong of course, but that’s what I got from his comment.
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Victory over chivalry
@Zabilac
I’m far more surprised at the logic leap of “If you don’t hate Flash, why are you not dating him?” or at least that’s the impression I’m getting.
You don’t need to hate a person to not date said person. Just because insufferable fans hated Flash and the writers made the decision to pander them doesn’t mean the characters within the fiction hate him too.
“Why make a character that looks alike but acts nothing alike?” As a fan of Star Wars The Clone Wars as well as someone who has dealt with twin siblings I can tell you that can perfectly happen. Clones, alternate dimensional versions and even twin siblings are still individuals so they can still behave differently from each other.
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@Zabilac
They look the same. I mean why is Flash confused and now no longer like Twilight anymore after getting over her?
@Twi Clown
Yea but the problem is that if Pony Twilight came back to the EqG, Flash will never love her again and she’ll be heartbroken. All because of SciTwi.
Worse, she’ll hate Timber Spruce the same way SciTwi hated Flash. And by hate, I mean not having feelings for him. And so much drama and love triangle will happen. And Timber Spruce doesn’t exist in PonyTwi’s universe, and even if he did, Twi wouldn’t like him the way she liked Flash.
But that’s just me since EqG ended in an unfinished note thanks to the 2017 movie flopping at the box office to the point of Hasbro giving up on G4 after Season 9. (Although they haven’t given up on G4 altogether)
Also this is why I ship Twijack, at least Twilight and Applejack know each other in both dimensions.
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Unpopular opinion of unpopular opinions: while having a real Grogar as a villain would have been awesome, having a previous villain as the final villain of the show was a much better decision than Grogar. AND WE GOT THREE OF THEM.
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