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Of course. I get called a nazi sympathizer for calling out both sides. Pretty much for saying Nazis/KKK and Antifa are both problematic. And i went on by saying let them destroy each other ti’ll both sides are no more.
 
I guess i wasn’t ragging on nazi’s enough for their liking. I guess people are that stupid.
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Of course it wasn’t - people need their witches to burn, and if you aren’t equally enthusiastic about burning witches, then obviously you must be a witch too!
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I already did one, I ain’t got to do shit until you condemn left wing extremism.
 
But, I’m not going to hole MY breath.
 
It’s always “You have to condemn what WE tell you to”
 
So, no.
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@Cyborg_pony  
I refuse to condemn anti-fascism because I believe it’s just. We disagree on that. Fine. Now I’m asking do you refuse to condemn white far right extremism such as the white nationalists on display in Charlottesville?
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@KingKek42  
Exactly. You only want me to say what you agree with, and I don’t play they game.
 
I already know that doesn’t work, and I already knew you wouldn’t condemn them. I doesn’t matter. They fit you’re ideological views, so anything they do is justified.
 
Who’s the bias one here?
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The Alt right grew because of how people from the other political leaning acted, calling anyone that doesn’t agree with them deplorable, racist, whatever buzzword they could milk. They made impossible to separate anyone non-racist, but racists. They lust lumped and labeled.
 
Words hurts, they have power, they can be dangerous, but they can’t create what wasn’t there, just build on it. Only you can create what person you are, nobody else. You’re using the left again to scapegoat a demon of your own making, accept responsibility. The “buzzword” is no longer a buzzword, instead of proving whatever naysayer wrong you’re only proving them right.
 
You say you damn the violence caused by the alt right? Good. Now damn those that don’t condemn them either in their actions, words or inaction. Damn those who make excuses and try to act there’s an equivalency.
 
Here’s the thing about Free Speech, yes it says you can say whatever you want, but whatever you say has consequences, and sometimes those consequences are dangerous.
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This has descended into pages of you all declaring moral high ground over each other because of who hates who the most, and claiming victory when someone else doesn’t hate the right group or person the right way.
 
If you want to discuss politics, that is what this thread was created for.
 
But arguing about who hates what the most or enough, and condemning each other for not condemning something else, is not what this thread was created for.
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@Cyborg_pony  
I already know we disagree. That’s besides the point. Obviously a white nationalist would condemn ISIS, that goes without saying. Do you or do you not support white natiomalism? It’s a simple question.
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I know! It looks like John Kelly made the decision though, and I have to give him credit for it. Say what you want about Bannon but he was controversial and right now Trump doesn’t need to look more controversial
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I heard he already wanted to quit but stayed on longer because of the events this weekend would explain him out right declaring Trump’s stand on NK a failure, i mean if he was already jumping ship may as weel spill the beans,
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Yep,
 
I think we should have a dynamic tax system designed to encourage people to pay higher wages, the idea would be that it’s cheaper to pay your employees more than to take the profits for yourselves, this would only apply to people making more than 1 million$ a year or so, like you have a choice pay 400,000 in taxes or pay 150,000 and spread another 200,000 through out your companies wages,
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>alt-left
 
I’m pretty sure that this term never existed before Sean Hannity and Donald Trump used it and it was never used by someone to describe themselves until, again, someone used it ironically or unironically as a reference to Hannity’s or Trump’s usage that brought it into existence, unlike the other labels in the list.
 
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Context: “Nazi” actually existed as a self-applied label.
 
Well, except maybe “atheist” first being lobbed at early Christians for not accepting the Roman Emperor as a deity, but still.
 
Just a nitpick, but, otherwise, I agree.
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@Chilly Pepper
 
The popular term for the last year or so was cntrl-left, but Trump went with alt for the direct comparison and then the media ran with the meme.
 
I’m old fashioned; they’re all authoritarian extremists in my book. bigger words sound better anyway
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