The Downfall of Bhaalspawn (contains possible SJW discussions)

Vortaxonus

@Jas  
To quote:  
“insanityallegra asked:  
My biggest issue with family guy is Meg and how her treatment has steadily gotten worse over the years. Every single Meg abuse joke makes me really uncomfortable and reminds me a lot of a friend who’s unfortunately not with us anymore’s childhood, except a hell of a lot more over the top.
 
Lily Peet:  
I suppose. I always got a certain degree of catharsis from it because I was the Meg in my family.”
 
“anonymous asked:  
What do you think about the claim that “SJWs” are always getting offended on behalf of minorities who don’t want their input?
 
Lily Peet:  
I’ve never actually seen that happen. What I HAVE seen (and frankly have absolutely no issue with) is conservative Friend Arguments like CHS, Milo and Carson being rightfully told to fuck right off.  
This attitude started (as they always do) with Gamergate. Those cretins had a whole host of women, people of color, and LGBT people to try and shield them from accusations of being a bigoted harassment mob with “Not Your Shield.” The idea being that if you can find a few women to say you’re not misogynists, that somehow invalidates the opinions of the ten thousand other women who say you are.  
It’s the Friend Argument of “Well I have a black/female/gay friend and they said they didn’t think it was bad!”  
I’ve said this particular phrase before in regards to FeMRAs like CHS and Shoeonhead: A woman saying that she doesn’t like feminism doesn’t make feminism bad. It makes that woman an idiot. The right is very good at weaponizing their token Yes People, accusing anyone who dares criticize them of being the real bigot (”You called a woman a misogynist? According to feminism, doesn’t that make YOU the misogynist?!”).  
While it’s a bad idea to presume you speak for an entire demographic of people, it’s also a bad idea to let a few deranged wingnuts try and speak for that entire demographic of people as well. And this Friend Argument bullshit is exactly what the right is trying to do, create a narrative where the left are the “real racists” trying to “speak for all minorities.”  
As characterized by that one South-Park esque webcomic that I see people throwing around whenever this conversation comes up.  
This is the problem with these SJew memes, like that “Ramp vs Stairs” talking point. Find me 10 instances of someone actually doing that, and I might be willing to entertain the idea. Until then, as far as I’m concerned, you’re are clearly bullshitting.”
Jas

@Vortaxonus
 
you think someone who said they where the Meg of the family would be more upset at Family Guy’s abuse jokes but this is Peet we are talking about.
Jas

here are Peets two new videos
 
This is Glass of Water-Troopes VS Ida Davis. It has jabs at JonTron, South Park among other things
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luU1R4a0bVw
 
here is her in a minute on Bismuth. It has stupid jokes and Peet trying to be serious and again missing the fact Bismuth wanting to use the Breaking Point on all Home World Gems
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Kk54N2QxQ
 
Here is some of a comment chain from Glass of Water-Troopes Vs Ida Davis.
 
zeonthefox13 hours ago
to be fair to Mr Enter he is on the spectrum like myself and has a hard time seeing the humor in allot of family lots of people on the spectrum have been bullied or dehumanised do to being autistic so when we see people real or fictional being bullied or dehumanised we are SUPER EMPATHETIC and fail to see anything else it’s hard for us proses cruelty as funny even if it’s well written
 
Lily Peet
Lily Peet10 hours ago (edited)
I know how it feels, but I still don’t sympathize with Mr Enter.
Fun fact about me: I volunteered with a day treatment program for kids and teenagers with autism who were very poorly adjusted to it. I met a LOT of different kinds of kids and saw just how much people with autism differ from one another. The big thing that you learn doing that is that the same vices in neurotypical people exist in neurodivergent people. Something that many people refuse to acknowledge.
I’ve met people like Mr Enter before. They were lazy, they made excuse after excuse as to why they shouldn’t put in any effort to become more well adjusted, and they almost always got kicked out of the program for wasting people’s time. Where most of the kids learned coping strategies and learned the skills they were lacking, some refused and made excuses to not co-operate with the staff. Using Autism as this kind of an excuse is extremely disrespectful to the thousands of people with autism who worked their ass off to learn the skills they struggled with and be more well adjusted.
People with autism are not a fucking monolith. There are those who work hard, and there are those who make excuses to not even bother trying. And I will never have any sympathy for them.
 
You Know Peet maybe you should call people out for being lazy when you weren’t even smart enough to credit
 
AnimeChristy for her art work. For people wondering why I am bringing it up. Some of you already know her April
 
Fools video Kaboom which was set up to be a Josh attack video. She tricked everyone and this is what makes her
 
not crediting Animechristy even more baffling. Peet likes to make her detractors look like retards and yet it
 
never crossed her mind that she could use crediting someone for their art work to an advantage. Not that it
 
matters since Peet messed up her own April Fools joke by the post in which she said she was enjoying seeing Josh
 
suffer.
Osean-Kitty

De meows
@Jas  
What it looks like now is that he is starting to get Joshes fan-base to attack him because he knows Josh does not like it when his fans go out and attack people in the response videos he makes (which is why he dislikes making them and has said he’ll never make them). Also as someone who probably knows a lot more about autism (my little brother has severe autism) than Peet, I don’t believe that he has work with people who do have autism.
Vortaxonus

To quote:  
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Uh no, that doesn’t make them a liar. Even when 2 shows have similar kinds of humor the kind of jokes could still vary, the writing could be better in one case then the other, they both deliver their jokes in different ways, others kinds of humor could be mixed in and so forth.  
For someone that claims to have a critical eye it’s odd that she would miss something so seemingly obvious like this. But that’s not my business.  
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South park is always and always is on Neutral ground. This is why Peet hates the show so much. Its getting people to actually think for themselves and see that both sides has and always will have their problems. Now granted they never hit home 10% of the time but for the most part, south park is the enemy of people like Lily who can’t be convince by simple Trump is a nazi or in this case for the other side Trump is a savior Thinking on your own terms pisses anyone who wants power as well as people who wants to kill you. Its why British ninja got kick out because he was thinking on his own and he despise the lies that the left and right are pulling.
Jas

hay if you remember the comment chain I copy and pasted to this morning well turns out I didn’t get the full Peet related comment chain.
 
zeonthefox
zeonthefox22 hours ago
to be fair to Mr Enter he is on the spectrum like myself and has a hard time seeing the humor in allot of family lots of people on the spectrum have been bullied or dehumanised do to being autistic so when we see people real or fictional being bullied or dehumanised we are SUPER EMPATHETIC and fail to see anything else it’s hard for us proses cruelty as funny even if it’s well written
 
Lily Peet
Lily Peet22 hours ago
Being on the spectrum is not an excuse for being a terrible critic who can’t articulate themselves and their awful opinions.
 
zeonthefox
zeonthefox21 hours ago
no but it explains them as a trans person you must know how it feels to be outcasted for having a brain that works differently intended yours tells you should be a woman where his cannot process normal social interactions without great difficulty and years of training on how to interact almost normally i meen fidget devices were practically made for autistic people
 
Lily Peet
Lily Peet19 hours ago (edited)
I know how it feels, but I still don’t sympathize with Mr Enter.
Fun fact about me: I volunteered with a day treatment program for kids and teenagers with autism who were very poorly adjusted to it. I met a LOT of different kinds of kids and saw just how much people with autism differ from one another. The big thing that you learn doing that is that the same vices in neurotypical people exist in neurodivergent people. Something that many people refuse to acknowledge.
I’ve met people like Mr Enter before. They were lazy, they made excuse after excuse as to why they shouldn’t put in any effort to become more well adjusted, and they almost always got kicked out of the program for wasting people’s time. Where most of the kids learned coping strategies and learned the skills they were lacking, some refused and made excuses to not co-operate with the staff. Using Autism as this kind of an excuse is extremely disrespectful to the thousands of people with autism who worked their ass off to learn the skills they struggled with and be more well adjusted.
People with autism are not a fucking monolith. There are those who work hard, and there are those who make excuses to not even bother trying. And I will never have any sympathy for them.
 
For the fun of it have a couple more Peet related comment chains from Glass of Water-Troopes VS Ida Davis.
 
zeonthefox
zeonthefox23 hours ago
you like seahorse seashell party how that literally saying you should stay in an abusive household to make your abuses feel better
 
Lily Peet
Lily Peet23 hours ago
Someone who will actually listen to that is probably too young to be watching Family Guy in the first place. If Friendship is Magic pulled that theme (it did) then it would be a problem.
 
Lishadra
Lishadra23 hours ago (edited)
Isn’t their target audience teenagers? Who are very impressionable?
 
Lily Peet
Lily Peet23 hours ago
Teenagers are impressionable, but if there’s one lesson they will never absorb, it’s anything that suggests your parents are in the right to be dicks to you.
 
what is Peet even talking about MLP:FIM saying abused people should stay in abusive relationships?
 
Doblestorm22 hours ago
I’m pretty sure Mr. Enter dismisses statistics because they are not reliable.
 
Lily Peet
Lily Peet22 hours ago
Mr Enter does that with anything that tells him he’s wrong, but loves dragging out statistics when he thinks they prove he’s right.
 
Okay can someone please provide an example of what on earth Peet is talking about? I remember Mr. Enter
 
dismissing statistics during one of his further thoughts videos I think on either Peter-assment or Homer Bad Man.
 
So again can someone please tell me a time Mr. Enter used statistics to prove what he thinks is right. Oh and
 
Peet hope you don’t mind the glass house breaking on ya. Because you do the same thing all the doggone time you
 
overgrown child.
Jas

here is a Kiwi Farms archive.
 
https://archive.is/OAD4h
 
here is what was said in the link for those that do not want to right click
 
 
anonymous asked:
Honestly I don’t know how anyone can keep watching Mr Enter after the “getting accused of rape is worse than rape” statement. Like how can you care about reviews and rants from a person so far removed from reality that made that they said something that fucking ridiculous?
 
Unsurprisingly, someone who spews far-right rhetoric (that, using Goode Family as an excuse to rant about college protests and feminist video game criticism, Yay South Park boo Family Guy, ect) attracts far-right nutcases. In much the same way Carlgon can rant about SJews, feminists being mean to him, and Muslim immigrants ruining the world and somehow gather 600,000 followers.
People watch Mr Enter because he echoes all their beliefs. He may not admit it, as he loves to engage in the “Both the left and right are just as bad so I’m gonna uncritically parrot everything Breitbart says” phony golden mean fallacy that so many self proclaimed centrists (read: Conservatives who want to pretend to be above it all) love to spew at every possible opportunity.
There are tons of people who think being accused of rape is worse than being raped. MRA’s. MGTOWs. Anti Feminists. Rapists. “Pick Up Artists” (AKA: Rapists). Friendzoned Nice Guys (AKA: Rapists). FeMRAs. There’s a fuckton of people for whom Mr Enter is their Yes Man.
Whether he really is this kind of reactionary shitmouth or whether he’s in desperate need of his own Leonard and Penny to smack him across the head every few minutes is a distinction without a difference.
 
Where on earth is Peet even getting this idea that every guy who is friendzoned is a rapist and does Peet think
 
every Enter fan agrees with everything he says? I mean other then white knights I don’t know of any enter fan who
 
agrees with him 100 percent. Isn’t it funny how Peet seems to want to attack someone she stopped talking about
 
years ago?
Jas

@TheHappySpaceman
 
I think Peet is just you know jealous that other people are more well liked then her. After all think about it Peet
 
is pretty much a joke. I mean why try improving when Peet can just smack talk ever user that has more subs then her.
Jas

@TheHappySpaceman
 
Sorry for the double reply but I also think Peet is out for Mr. Enter because Mr. Enter believes in Horse Shoe
 
theory and we all know how much Peet hates the Horse Shoe theory and to add on to my point about Peet hating
 
people who are more popular then her. Mr. Enter seems to be doing pretty well for him self even after he quit
 
doing pony reviews. Something Lily Peet will be in trouble with because MLP:FIM and SU aren’t going to last
 
forever and speaking of that people on Kiwi Farms have pointed out how Peet’s views are barely able to hit
 
10,000.
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XD PFFT.
 
Reason I say that is because each time Kanye fucks up, he makes it up with an album.
 
Look what happened with the Taylor Swiftie drama: He fucked up and gave us My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
Jas

Anonymous asked:
What do you think about the argument that Steven Universe is full of black characters when all of the characters are aliens?
lily-peet answered:
They’re talking about “Coding.” All the gems are technically genderless, but all of their designs are coded female (curved line work as opposed to angular line work, explicit pronoun use, all-female voice cast, ect).
This goes the same way with race. Garnet and Bismuth are very explicitly coded as black characters because of their voice actresses, outward design (Garnet has a cubic afro, Bismuth has hair very closely approximating dreadlocks, ect). These are traits that work to register in your mind “this character is black” regardless of other outward visual appearances.
Vocal inflections are probably the most prominent in this regard, which is why the choice of voice actress factors so heavily into the idea.
Now I wouldn’t say SU is full of black characters, as I’ve only really seen Garnet and Bismuth carry this kind of coding (Not counting characters that aren’t actually part of the cast like Kiki or Sugulite). But that idea of racial coding is what brings people to these conclusions. And coding is a deliberate decision by the writing staff to make you see they’re writing a racially diverse cast when the art style doesn’t directly convey it.
World of Warcraft is full of this. The Tauren have iconography that immediately register in your mind as “Native American.” The Orcs do the same with “African” and the Trolls with “Different Part of Africa.” The Goblins have a very thick New York accent because they’re obsessed with money and that’s where Wall Street is. Everything about the Draenei from their names to the thick accents all read “Persia.” And Mists of Pandaria was one big expansion of racial coding (and it was awesome).
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@Jas  
He had me up until “when the art style doesn’t directly convey it.” which directly contradicts his previous point about how certain physical features indicate race and gender. Why does he always have to ruin whatever good points he has?
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