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Can anyone here find out from Josh if he discussed with Xain about why he’s now listening to Lily, even though they both know she’s certifiably insane? Perhaps someone like derped, can find out from him through tumblr?
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@William Brady  
I don’t quite have the information to give a completely reliable and objective answer, but given my observations, I feel that Xain is that kind of person who wants to be in everyone’s good favor, and probably hoped that being in that video with Josh would help Jerry to cool down on his “Fuck KKKonservitives, they’re all Nazis and should die” and his “Josh is a Neo-Nazi” tirade. It didn’t, obviously, but I’m sure that Xain didn’t want Jerry to look at him as an Uncle Tom (for lack of a better term) and likely used the election results to get back in Jerry’s good favors. Right now, he seems to still have the respect of both of them.
 
“But then why hasn’t Xain suggested to Jerry to cool down with the Conservative/Josh hate?”  
Because Xain hates Conservatives too, (although obviously to an extent lesser enough that he’s actually able to be friends with people who are Conservative Right-winged/religious in general, unlike Jerry) and Jerry has been holding with his promise to not bring Josh up as consistently as before, under the moniker of “I don’t want to attract the reactionaries” while we all know it’s because he’s afraid that Josh or his other detractors are gonna call him out on more hypocritical shit. Which is why Jerry continues to demonize the opposition (us, /cow/, Kiwifarms, anyone else who doesn’t like him), so that he looks like the more morally upstanding one.
 
See, Xain and Jerry are fairly similar, but Xain is FAR more reasonable and rational. Xain is honestly what I wish Jerry could be, and is what he should aspire to be like, if not for his own massive ego and superiority complex.
 
why he’s now listening to [Jerry], even though they both know [he’s] certifiably insane?
Xain said himself in Josh’s video that with most of his views, he tends to agree with Jerry more. I realistically doubt that Xain would see Jerry as ‘certifiably insane’, just as someone who is a prominent cyberbully. A prominent cyberbully with opinions that he agrees with.
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yeah you are right Xain is a very reasonable person even if there are times he comes across as Peet like just with out the wishing death on people of different view points.
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here are a few Peet related reblogs from gemprincess10.
 
segasister asked:
“People ask why ‘gay pride’ is a thing but not ‘straight pride.” The same reason why there’s a specially marked handicapped space in the front of the parking lot but not a specially marked non-handicapped space: to acknowledge those who are otherwise marginalized by society for any reason. Asking for a “Straight Pride” parade is like asking for a specially marked parking spot at the front of the store when you literally have the entire lot. What do you think of this comparison?
lily-peet answered:
I’ve always responded with “When straight people have been marginalized for hundreds of years, and no being called mean names sometimes on Tumblr doesn’t count, THEN they can have their own Pride Parade.”
Whining about there being no “Straight Pride” is a form of sealioning. Nobody who asks that question is seriously ignorant as to why there’s no Straight Pride. They’re asking this specifically to waste your time.
People are not actually so privilege-blind that they actually think snarking on social media, or gay-shipping, or the lack of a straight pride parade is some kind of prejudice against straight people. I’ve argued with those people myself (and had one particular person shoved in my face from 15 different angles) and it’s always been clear in how they react that they know what they’re saying is bullshit. They’re trying to tone-police so they can get LGBT people to be quiet.
That’s another thing I’ve talked about before: There are a lot of self-described “moderates” who just want marginalized groups to shut up so they can feel comfy and not have to question themselves. People who confuse “peace” with “quiet.” The Pride Parade is one big event where a lot of people are forced to acknowledge the fact that LGBT people are treated like absolute dirt in the 21st Century. A lot of affluent, straight people don’t like that and would prefer to not have to confront it.
As I said to every other whining shithead who has demanded I stop putting a spotlight on the things they’d rather ignore: Tough Shit.
One should always refuse to make oneself easier to ignore.
 
Knob: We need to just ignore Nazis and they’ll go away.
Me: Tell that to 1930's Europe. What we need to do is shoot them in the face. Or stab them. Or throw them into a woodchipper. Nazis dying will make the Nazis go away.
 
 
Nazis: The new Star Wars films are going to flop big league anyway. You can push the female heroes as much as you like, but even most women don’t find it interesting.
  The Force Awakens: We're the third highest grossing movie of all time, you stupid fucks.
 
for the last one what makes you think that like Xain that Peet is falling for a troll?
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@Jas here are a few Peet related reblogs from gemprincess10.
 
segasister asked:
“People ask why ‘gay pride’ is a thing but not ‘straight pride.” The same reason why there’s a specially marked handicapped space in the front of the parking lot but not a specially marked non-handicapped space: to acknowledge those who are otherwise marginalized by society for any reason. Asking for a “Straight Pride” parade is like asking for a specially marked parking spot at the front of the store when you literally have the entire lot. What do you think of this comparison?
lily-peet answered:
I’ve always responded with “When straight people have been marginalized for hundreds of years, and no being called mean names sometimes on Tumblr doesn’t count, THEN they can have their own Pride Parade.”
Whining about there being no “Straight Pride” is a form of sealioning. Nobody who asks that question is seriously ignorant as to why there’s no Straight Pride. They’re asking this specifically to waste your time.
People are not actually so privilege-blind that they actually think snarking on social media, or gay-shipping, or the lack of a straight pride parade is some kind of prejudice against straight people. I’ve argued with those people myself (and had one particular person shoved in my face from 15 different angles) and it’s always been clear in how they react that they know what they’re saying is bullshit. They’re trying to tone-police so they can get LGBT people to be quiet.
That’s another thing I’ve talked about before: There are a lot of self-described “moderates” who just want marginalized groups to shut up so they can feel comfy and not have to question themselves. People who confuse “peace” with “quiet.” The Pride Parade is one big event where a lot of people are forced to acknowledge the fact that LGBT people are treated like absolute dirt in the 21st Century. A lot of affluent, straight people don’t like that and would prefer to not have to confront it.
As I said to every other whining shithead who has demanded I stop putting a spotlight on the things they’d rather ignore: Tough Shit.
One should always refuse to make oneself easier to ignore.
 
  1. Heterosexuality is not exclusive to humans, 2) How do define as privileged, 3) The (supposed) goal is Equality for LGBT to have equal rights, so the presence of gay pride is more then a little hypocritical.
     
Knob: We need to just ignore Nazis and they’ll go away.
Me: Tell that to 1930’s Europe. What we need to do is shoot them in the face. Or stab them. Or throw them into a woodchipper. Nazis dying will make the Nazis go away.
 
  1. what do you define as a “Nazi”, 2) They weren’t even a threat until they got a bit too much support, 3) I think this line has some truth to it “You can kill the man, But you can never kill an idea”, 4) Considering the last two, it makes YOU look like an asshole who kills people who disagree with them.
     
Nazis: The new Star Wars films are going to flop big league anyway. You can push the female heroes as much as you like, but even most women don’t find it interesting.
The Force Awakens: We’re the third highest grossing movie of all time, you stupid fucks.
 
  1. Who are the “Nazis” who are saying this, 2) I’m pretty sure this series already has Princess lea from the first trilogy, 3) I think we all agree we found the storm trooper more interesting then the heroine, if only becuase he was an interesting idea for the series, and one of the few non-force users to wield the light saber.
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@Vortaxonus  
His definition of Nazi is VERY loaded, which is why no one outside of his own safe space can take him seriously when he calls someone a Nazi.
 
Someone doesn’t share his opinion on a controversial/divisive topic? Well, fuck, they’re obviously Nazis.
 
Case in point:
Nazis: The new Star Wars films are going to flop big league anyway. You can push the female heroes as much as you like, but even most women don’t find it interesting.
The Force Awakens: We’re the third highest grossing movie of all time, you stupid fucks.
Never mind the fact that the label ‘Nazi’ is irrelevant here, no matter how you look at it, but who says this? r/TheRedPill? Because everyone knows they’re always full of shit, anyway. I wouldn’t mislabel them as Nazis anyway, They’re to MRAs what radfems are to casual feminists.
 
Jerry has said that people who use the term “SJW” as a pejoritive only use it as a shield to act like assholes, so perhaps this is another case of the pot calling the kettle black, where, in this case, he’s using the term Nazi as an umbrella term to hide his own bigotry, while looking like a knight in shining armor to everyone he’s fooling.
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The way he uses ‘moderates’ seems like a catch all term for ‘if you’re not constantly complaining about this you’re part of the problem’ but I can agree with the Nazi part.
 
He’s too far gone into the with me or against me mindset.
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I remember he made a post saying “There’s moderates, and then there’s Moderates(tm)” which I assume means he hates the kind of moderates who like to claim the moral high ground on the basis of neutrality, which, let’s be real, everyone hates that kind of person.
 
Of course, that was the only post where he addressed that. So assume what you like.
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  1. Heterosexuality is not exclusive to humans, 2) How do define as privileged, 3) The (supposed) goal is Equality for LGBT to have equal rights, so the presence of gay pride is more then a little hypocritical.
 
  1. but humans are the only animals to have possibility of pride and insight when talking about their sexuality.  
  2. “privileged” is a collective, not individual, term. What’s best for white people to do, for example, is to apologize to those the majority of their race has historically opressed and “work” to fix the mistakes their ancestors have made. Saying that you are “proud of being white and straight” is very close to being interpreted as saying “i possess no regrets as to what my race has done to others in the past and i want those pointing that out to just cut it with their fight, it’s useless”, so it’s best to avoid saying it. Just telling people belonging to minorities that were historically harassed and opressed to just “forget it” is not easy. Although a straight white male who recognizes his gorup’s mistakes and apologizes for them at least a bit should not be included in the group-to-hate.  
    I mostly refrain from using this term in a collectivist sense, but it could be true when used to refer to the life state of most “white” people in the world: aside from a few eastern european countries, is there any “majority-white” country that could be considered third-world?  
  3. “gay pride” is not a hypocritical term at all. It can be used to warn people that the individual is not afraid of whatever bigoted insults are thrown at him, and also to bring some attention to the LGBT+ cause.
     
    Just came here to pass that through. I disclaim: i do not defend Lily Peet as he/she is too extreme a feminist for my tastes and has said some unexcusable stuff.
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We must balance this, KIWI FAMRS I NEED YOU: “>Brings up Force Awakens
 
See, that’s how you know he’s a stupidly sheltered clod. The ignorant fuck thinks that Rey is the reason why anyone gave a shit about Star Wars having another film.
 
Never mind the fact that, objectively, no matter how deluded you are, she is a terrible, boring character. ESPECIALLY when you stand her next to the other characters in the film with actual character traits.
 
Plus, the film sucked ass anyways.  
I disagree, but this isn’t the place to discuss Star Wars.
 
Anyway, Jerry has said that people who use the term “SJW” as a pejorative only use it as a shield to act like assholes, (in his You Don’t Know What Censorship Means video) so perhaps this is ANOTHER case of the pot calling the kettle black, where, in this case, he’s using the term Nazi as an umbrella term to hide his own bigotry, while looking like a knight in shining armor to everyone he’s fooling, the exact same thing he claims some of the overly sycophantic anti-SJW users do.”
 
“The thing is, Jerry’s definition of “Nazi” is a noticeably loaded umbrella term for everyone he hates, including, but not limited to:  
-ANYONE who is Right-winged  
-Josh  
-Ink  
-Probably Lunacorva  
-Probably Alex Rochon (both of them were in Josh’s video)  
-/cow/  
-us  
-probably Derpibooru  
-Every MRA (he seems to assume every MRA is exactly like everyone on r/TheRedPill)  
-Everyone on Youtube who has ever said anything negative about Anita Sarkeesian, feminists in general, Sarah Nyberg, Alison Rapp, or Muslims  
-“Youtube atheists”  
-Milo Yiannopoulos (debatable, in lieu of recent events)  
While almost none of these people are literal Nazis. Jerry just loves to call them Nazis because it makes him look like he has the moral high-ground.  
He calls them Nazis because it dehumanizes them and makes it okay to murder them. Sort of like a certain group did. Oh, yeah. The Nazis.  
Watch him call Godwin’s Law on that, hilariously ignoring the irony of it.”
 
““Everyone who deosn’t agree with me is Hitler”  
Seriously the amount of time he used that word for someone just disagreeing is pretty insulting. I mean his literal straw man is just someone saying the movie will flop and will succeed because of a female lead. At best you can call them a sexist, even though that’s still not it. Also I think just randomly killing off people who you think are Nazi is very bad and stupid. And even if you do find an actual Nazi, if he hasn’t done anything, then he’s doesn’t deserve death. They can have there backwards and hateful mind all they wants, but if they don’t do anything, then you’re going kill a person for thought or idea.  
That’s the problem with Jerry; he’s paranoid as fuck. Just as bad as those tinfoil hat nutjobs because he’s so insecure, he seriously believes that he could be beat up or killed over a disagreement or difference in opinion. It’s how he’s adopted this ‘kill them before they kill you’ mentality.
 
‘They COULD kill me for being trans…so I should kill the Republicans first!’
 
It also explains how he’s adopted this ‘Authoritarian/Totalitarian is the one true way’ line of thinking. If everyone is forced to conform or die, then nobody disagrees, and I guess having all the same political beliefs with people makes him feel safe.
 
Censorship? You illiterate knobs don’t even know what censorship IS! Freedom? Nah, not needed; it’s fake. An Idealistic nuance of the privileged, white, Neo-Reactionary world.”
 
“All of Jerry’s talk about killing people who disagree, be they tinfoil hats or ex friends like Josh and Ink, just reminds me of a quote from GoT that would do Jerry a great deal of good to take to heart: “When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar; you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say”.
 
Well, from what I could tell Ink wasn’t really ‘friends’ with him. They didn’t seem to interact too often though she sometimes commented on his videos. Now, though, they seem to have cut off communication completely. Apparently she blocked him on Tumblr? …it’s understandable.  
Also why the hell do tinfoil hats deserve DEATH?? Make strange, unrealistic theories? Guess that means MatPat needs to die in Jerry’s book…
 
Edit: She also unsubscribed from his YouTube channel
 
Also, he even boasted on Ink unsubscribing, for his master everyone who likes me can subscribe plans. I mean, it’s already sad that his “exposing of Ink” backfired and showed how useless his fans can be, but boasting about someone not keeping up in your videos is more sad then his entire life.(Nah, it’s just sad, really)”
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so has Peet said anything discussion worthy? I am only asking because the people I normally copy and paste Peet related stuff from haven’t rebloged stuff from Peet lately.
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here is a couple of Peet related reblogs from gemprincess10.
 
hauntedyouthwonderland asked:
What do you think about the whole “Rey is a Mary Sue” debate?
lily-peet answered:
Luke “Totally gonna make this impossible shot” Skywalker? 
Han “Fuck your shit I’m awesome” Solo? 
Mara “Luke’s Wife” Jade? 
Jaina and Jacen “Let’s bring back this stupid family Sith/Jedi thing” Solo? 
Emperor “I’m pulling literally everyone’s strings” Palpatine? 
Darth “I’m gonna make a new Sith Empire with blackjack and hookers” Bane? 
Satele “Descendant of Revan and Bastila” Shan? 
Emperor “Totally not a clone of Nihilus” Vitiate? 
Darth “My name is totally not supposed to be nihilism” Nihilus? 
ANAKIN “Literally the fucking chosen prodigy” SKYWALKER?! 
DARTH “Literally the second coming of Space Jesus” REVAN?! 
MEETRA “Wound in the Force” SURIK?! 
DARTH “The Force is a hateful god and needs to die” TRAYA?!
When did being a Mary Sue in Star Wars start being a bad thing? Oh right, all those things came around before neoreactionaries started getting bitchy about female leads doing cool shit because that mean Anita lady said a thing that one time.
 
hauntedyouthwonderland asked:
Why is it that gators and the like hate being called right-wing?
lily-peet answered:
They’re smart enough to know that “Right Wing” has become synonymous with the very worst kind of people in North America, but not smart enough to realize that political labels are based on your views and actions, not your preferences.
So instead they just try and rebrand it. Like Carlgon does with the phrase “Classical Liberal.”
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@Jas
 
hauntedyouthwonderland asked:
What do you think about the whole “Rey is a Mary Sue” debate?
lily-peet answered:
Luke “Totally gonna make this impossible shot” Skywalker? 
Han “Fuck your shit I’m awesome” Solo? 
Mara “Luke’s Wife” Jade? 
Jaina and Jacen “Let’s bring back this stupid family Sith/Jedi thing” Solo? 
Emperor “I’m pulling literally everyone’s strings” Palpatine? 
Darth “I’m gonna make a new Sith Empire with blackjack and hookers” Bane? 
Satele “Descendant of Revan and Bastila” Shan? 
Emperor “Totally not a clone of Nihilus” Vitiate? 
Darth “My name is totally not supposed to be nihilism” Nihilus? 
ANAKIN “Literally the fucking chosen prodigy” SKYWALKER?! 
DARTH “Literally the second coming of Space Jesus” REVAN?! 
MEETRA “Wound in the Force” SURIK?! 
DARTH “The Force is a hateful god and needs to die” TRAYA?!
When did being a Mary Sue in Star Wars start being a bad thing? Oh right, all those things came around before neoreactionaries started getting bitchy about female leads doing cool shit because that mean Anita lady said a thing that one time.
 
full  
At this point, i beg to wonder what his definition for a bad character is, as he seems to confuse the definition of “Mary Sue”, for something completely different. Hell, I wonder if he knows how a character is supposed to be.
 
hauntedyouthwonderland asked:
Why is it that gators and the like hate being called right-wing?
lily-peet answered:
They’re smart enough to know that “Right Wing” has become synonymous with the very worst kind of people in North America, but not smart enough to realize that political labels are based on your views and actions, not your preferences.
So instead they just try and rebrand it. Like Carlgon does with the phrase “Classical Liberal.”
 
Excuse me, but what the fuck was that. What are the “gators” for first thing. Second thing “political labels are based on your views and actions, not your preferences”, which, by that logic, would make you a misandry-ous (real) neo nazi.
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@Vortaxonus
 
you are talking about the same woman who is says you shouldn’t judge groups based on the idiots only to say GamerGate are terrorist and that Broines are worse then the Steven Universe fandom
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@Jas  
Well, any thorough speech anyone, because it’s time for shit to burn. To start off, if violence is always the most best awnser against violent groups, then the war on terror should have ended by now. I mean, there is something called “self defense” dear Peet, and nobody is gonna give you sympathy when you’re trying to kill them.
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@JaeD53  
To quote Kiwi Farms: ““People are actually calling out Trump and not just blindly worshipping him like I said they would? Umm…Well they’re still stupid because they voted for him in the first place and deserve to die because I don’t like Trump.”
 
Yes, Jerry. This is indicative that you were right and not at all that Trump is held under scrutiny even by the people who voted for him rightfully proving you wrong about his voters this entire time.
 
That people that are right-leaning are quicker to call Trump out on actual flaws and stupid policies he insists on enforcing instead of “BUILD A WALL” speaks more about their integrity, not yours Jerry.
 
It shows that they’re willing to push back if they need to, and the vote for Trump wasn’t done simply because they LIKED him. Pushing back against a man with no government support is sure as hell easier than pushing back against a woman who’s had government support, corruption, collusion, and political discrepancies throughout her career.
 
But continue being a smug cunt. You’ve never actually cared about “helping”, you just want to take the moral high ground.
 
And he calls us ‘reactionaries’ and ‘Nazis’?
 
Jerry threw self-awareness out the window the second he chose “edgelord” as his favorite insult.”
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