@Background Pony #A8CE  
Could be Courage, I guess; Hard to make new friends and keep them if you’re too afraid to even open your mouth for the first time.

Soooo the next reformation/new pony is going to be day-based:
 
Day: Celestia, Sunset Shimmer (2)  
Night: Luna, Twilight, Starlight Glimmer (3)
 
Cadance and Flurry Heart, you two are on your own.

@Background Pony #5584  
Yeah, Helping Twilight Win The Crown song saves the movie for me.

@Background Pony #38B4  
@crystalflutter  
Well, it took too long for me to get back to this thread, and it looks like another BP pretty much gave the answer I would have given, and the response filled in the blanks I would have filled in. Yeah, the first EG movie was flawed; I thought it was OK, though I’d rank it among the weakest episodes of the series. Still, there was enough about it that was good, even really good, that I can understand how others love it.

@Background Pony #38B4  
I can agree that it was crappy writing, but I still need to give credit where the credit is due. Like I said, the elements have never shown to have the power to brainwash people into being good. What Meghan McCarthy wanted us to believe was that Sunset thought that the only way to achieve the greatest power was through dark magic but after witnessing what Twilight and her friends could do with the magic of friendship, she realized the error in her ways. Thus she seeked forgiveness. That was the intent of the writer, however badly portrayed it may be.

@crystalflutter  
Considering she was planning on conquering Equestria even before she turned into a demon, YES! It was the element’s doing!
 
Plus the crappy writing…it was a mixture of both really.

@Background Pony #CF32  
So are you saying it was the elements’ doing after all or that the writing in that movie was not so good?

@Background Pony #351D  
If it’s deserved, it’s not forgiveness. Redemption would be a better word in that case, I’d say.
 
@crystalflutter  
But before she was a demon, she was still scheming to use the Element of Magic in order to enslave an army for herself and conquer Equestria.

@Background Pony #38B4  
Umm, actually it wasn’t the elements, it was Sunset herself. The elements just got rid of the demon form. Same with Luna, they just destroyed the Nightmare Moon. That’s it. Was it the elements that made Discord good? I don’t think so.
 
But you don’t need to have a reason like that to like Starlight more. I like both characters but Starlight is my favourite. Because I like her design and voice more, I like that she’s more powerful than Twilight, I like that she can fly by levitating herself and I liked both of her plans in the premiere and in the final. That’s it. I don’t care if Sunset’s “characterization” is better, she can never be as cool as Starlight. That’s my opinion. No argument is gonna change that and neither should it change yours. Maybe you like one of them more because she HAS a better characterization; That’s great! Keep that opinion!

@Background Pony #351D  
Oh yeah? SUNSET BECAME A DEVIL CREATURE AND BRAINWASHED PEOPLE!
 
And she didn’t even stop being a villain on her own, THE ELEMENTS OF HARMONY MADE HER THAT WAY!
 
How the hell is THAT forgivable!?
 
So yeah, sorry, I’m gonna give poor Starlight a chance!

@Malvolio  
It’s like Rarity becoming an Element of Generosity by being generous to herself. That’s just cheap.
 
@Background Pony #351D  
Wait, but in the first movie Sunset did even less to deserve her forgiveness. She didn’t even had to stop and rethink her evil ways, she was magically transformed to the good!

@crystalflutter  
Oops.

Unike Sunset, Starlight did nothing to be forgiven. She just stopped her “I’ll take Twilight her friends, even if I have to destroy the world and millions of lifes” plan. Right now, she doesn’t deserve forgiveness and until she actually shows that she tries to make up for all the things she had done, I will never accept her.
 
and don’t start with things like “Love and Tolerance” or “It’s just a show” comments. It’s not drama, just my own opinion. You can accept it or not:-)

@BUzer  

 
She forgave herself in the second movie. In the third one she helped Sci-Twi forgive herself her actions. Not a coincidence I’m sure.

@Background Pony #A8CE  
Why Forgiveness? I don’t remember her being famous for forgiving someone. At least, in the movies.

@Background Pony #A8CE  
It’s Josh Haber.

@Background Pony #38B4  
Perhaps. Though it is my understanding that the general consensus is Forgiveness.

Season 6-7 Ending, please.

@Background Pony #A8CE  
Harmony? The flames on the sun might represent the rays of harmony?

@Princess Tuna  
I concur. Sunset has a more prominent backstory, and three movies’ worth of character development (naturally, with more on the way), whereas Josh Faber attempted to do a one-man, two-episode job of thrusting her into the spotlight. Honestly, she’s more valuable to me as a villain than as a hero.
 
If there shall be a Seventh Element of Harmony, let Sunset Shimmer represent it. (Whatever that Element is, though, I’ll leave for you to decide.)

Yes, that scene would habe been better than little miss Starlight the-brainwashing-slavmaster-is-trying-to-destroying-equestria Glimmer
 
Although it’s wouldn’t be like here. Except Twilight, non of the mane six know Sunset Shimmer. Only the parallel six know Sunset

Kay now let’s put Rainbow or Pinkie in the middle for a change.

@Background Pony #A8CE
 
i agree, instead we got starlight bitch, that hates twilight more then anyone.
 
sunset shimmers is a much better character.

Now this is how it should be.