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Yes, but BP specifically said voicing a pony, singular, with there being another, non-speaking pony there too. Since most people wouldn’t recognize Teller’s voice, I think the smart money would be on Penn for that.
And I think the not talking might be more a gimmick/shtick/something in that vein.
Wouldn’t it just be Penn then?
Teller’s done plenty of voiceover work; his contract/fetish only stipulates that he doesn’t speak as himself on camera.
Wouldn’t it just be Penn then?
Every brain is different; I’ve seen both, and been to both. Antidepressant drugs aren’t really “happy pills”, though.
Someone very near and dear to me has severe depression. It isn’t just not caring, though. She has suicidal thoughts sometimes and there’s something in her head telling her how worthless she is even though she clearly isn’t. She curls up in a ball on bad days and cries and thinks about hurting herself. That’s not just a lack of motivation. In fact, she says the only reason she hasn’t killed herself is because she thinks it would be cruel to leave her family to find her dead.
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a drug that’s supposed to make depressed people feel happier
Clinical depression isn’t just “being sad”, though; for quite a lot of people, it’s a level of not giving a $#!+ about anything that’s so profound it’s literally an effort to remember to eat. You’re an artist– you know that feeling when you just can’t get started on a new picture, even when it’s something you really want to draw? Imagine that, but instead of “drawing that idea you had for a cool Applejack picture”, it’s “getting out of bed and showering”. Serious depression sucks real bad.
They need to get Penn and Teller to voice a pony. The other pony obviously won’t speak.
Apparently this writer does not understand the concept of fraternal twins.
@TexasUberAlles
You know, when suicide is a common side effect of a drug that’s supposed to make depressed people feel happier so that they won’t commit suicide, something’s wrong there…
@TexasUberAlles
I think I remember Pinkie Pie saying that she and Marble Pie were born a few minutes apart… If they had different mothers, that would suggest either polygamy or an affair. I don’t think so.
It would have been nice if there were more hints that Trixie would survive just fine
It looked to me like “just fine” was never in the cards, given how banged up she was when the trick did have a teleportation assist; from an in-universe perspective, I don’t think Trixie was suicidal so much as she just didn’t give a buck if she got hurt performing the trick, which isn’t quite the same thing. There’s a reason why suicide is one of the common side effects of high caliber antidepressant drugs; depression usually expresses as a clinically severe lack of motivation, and the main thing antidepressants do is make it possible to get motivated to do things… and for some people “lack of motivation” was the only thing stopping them from logging out.
@Scrounge
Pinkie and Marble aren’t twins despite being born at the same time to the same mother
Nopony ever said anything about them being born to the same mother, though; unlikely as it might be given the overall tone of the show, it’s still possible that Cloudy Quartz isn’t the birth mother of all the Pie Sisters.
The writer of Hearthbreakers says that Pinkie and Marble aren’t twins despite being born at the same time to the same mother, so I don’t think authorial intent should trump all unless we at least make an exception for things that are blatantly and demonstrably bullshit.
@Prof.NightJack
Good enough. Whatever Trixie’s frame of mind, I think the important part is Starlight saving Trixie from death, or at least from severe and permanent injury. If there isn’t a good chance of this being Trixie’s farewell performance, Starlight stepping up loses some impact.
Oh I agree with that, it’s just that with some things seen in the episode it makes the thing of her being suicidal very, very unlikely.
But clearly she wasn’t thinking clearly and could of been killed by her actions in that state of mind.
Rainbow Dash healed from broken bones in like two days, and this was specifically stated to be normal. So unless pegasi heal faster than unicorns by an order of magnitude, I gotta wonder what would have to be at risk for this to be genuinely dangerous? I’d think it’d have to be something permanent, at the very least.
@Prof.NightJack @Tragiclady
At the very least, can we all at least agree that if something went wrong, there was a very real chance that Trixie wouldn’t be walking away from it?
This is all going from my memory though, which is why my quotes aren’t exact. I’ll watch the episode again. It would have been nice if there were more hints that Trixie would survive just fine even if there wasn’t any backup, but I guess that would have killed suspense.
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It all depends on 1. the person who’s judging which opinion matters, and 2. the two opinions, compared to one another.
Personally I don’t think it matters I think the viewpoint that there was an attempt at suicide in the show is people just trying too hard and over reading things and there is evidence to the contrary within the episode itself not just the writers intent if all I had to go on was the intent I wouldn’t even be here talking about this but we have that as well as evidence to the contrary in the episode itself.
I KNOW that those two male ponies were a movie reference, not a gay couple, and if you actually looked at my comments on the picture, you’d realize that that was the point I was trying to make. Not all interpretations are correct… but I had pointed that out and was denounced for not “letting people interpret how they want to”.
So, I guess this boils down to one question: Is the writers’ intent or the viewer’s interpretation superior?
Was that supposed to prove a point? Those two characters are a reference to a movie not a gay couple you can’t just force an interpretation as a fact when it clearly isn’t. There are two pieces of evidence the in show and the staff, Trixie had this planned for awhile she states this she had also been wanting to pull it off for years she was going to do it eventually but the events of the episode made it so the time was now it’s a stunt and she’s a performer it’s like saying people who walk tight ropes are suicidal because they could die but they’re not it’s part of their career. We also know the manticore was trained it could have just chewed her she even explained that used to be part of the trick but this one didn’t and it bowed it was trained.
People are jumping right to her being suicidal where it’s more that she had, likely without realizing it, turned self-destructive and did the act where she could be greatly injured without placing a fail-safe to cover for Starlight not being there anymore.
But she always knew that the act was dangerous so that the say she was intently suicidal when we know she had been planing it some time before being depressed over everything with Starlight is kind of odd as she is a stage magician and it’s a practice to have a fail-safe when doing somthing dangerous.
But no, she’s doing somthing that might get her killed and the fact that she is upset and seemed Starlight wouldn’t be there it means she is out to kill herself.
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You know, it’s kind of weird that when I say, “Trixie tried to kill herself in this episode” when there is some evidence for it, people say, “No, don’t interpret it that way. The writers didn’t mean that.”
However, when I look at two male ponies that are specifically stated to be characters from a movie who were JUST FRIENDS, and I say, “They aren’t a gay couple”, people say, “Let people interpret the way they want to. The writers’ intent doesn’t matter.”
See the comments on this picture: https://derpiboo.ru/1123070
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He life wasn’t in danger, doesn’t mean she wasn’t in danger at all.
I guess part of the problem might be that the curtain call was far enough after the fact for people’s first impressions to have time to take root in their brains.
Too you.
If you want to interpret it that way you can especially if it helps you get more out of it, it just wasn’t the writers intent to have her commit suicide and there were too many other variables such as fluttershy’s and Twi’s presence on top of the manticore being a part of the act for her to be in mortal danger, the most dangerous part of the stunt would have been if she had missed slightly and hit his teeth then she could have been seriously injured.
@Prof.NightJack
The biggest part that tells us the manticore was just performing is when Trixie explained the trick previously she said it chews then swallows this one was obviously trained not to chew as that would make the stunt the way she is doing it impossible.
If Trixie was never in any danger, the ending just doesn’t have the same impact.
I take cartoons far too seriously, but I’m glad I won’t have to worry about Trixie putting herself in harms way when her mood goes dark.
Though its still sad that I thought she was so miserable that it would be entirely in character for her. I’ll have to blame my subconscious or forgotten fanart for that.
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