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Background Pony #8834
It’s a little something called color theory, guys. Nyx is a violation of it and her backstory or connection to NMM is no excuse for the eyesore.
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Background Pony #5408
@Pepsi_Al  
Alright, this is going nowhere. You like her, I don’t. Neither of us will convince the other side that they’re right. I’m dropping this.
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Pepsi_Al
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@Background Pony #DDE3  
@Pepsi_Al The color scheme is unoriginal and unpleasant to look at.
And I just brought up an example that’s praised for its design despite having a color scheme that’s, according to you, “unoriginal” and “unpleasant”. And frankly, that makes me question whether or not said color scheme is truly “ugly”.
 
The fact that she’s an alicorn with special eyes don’t add any bonus points to it.
I would say that it does in at least some way. After all, there’s almost always a reason everything.
 
She’s generic because she’s special, like a metric ton of other special OCs out there.
Except not every other “special” OC is well-written enough to be believable.
 
I don’t see where you’re getting at with a comparison to some obscure anime character. That’s not pony.
What I’m getting at is that it’s seeming like you’re looking for flimsy excuses to dislike a character’s design. Why I brought Nia up is because she received, from a vocal minority, similar “criticism” for her design to what you’re giving Nyx now.
 
Also, “obscure”? What? Did you just crawl out from under a rock or something?
 
And yes, I’m judging her design without the context, the whole time. Because the context doesn’t change that she’s ugly, it just gives a reason for it.
Except “ugly” wouldn’t even be the word I’d use to describe her design. A little “stand-out-ish”, yes. But otherwise, it’s not much different from most other pony designs. The main reason why I’m bringing up context is to at least instill some understanding in why Nyx looks how she does. In all honesty, the only criticism I have about Nyx’s design is what the author decided to go with for her Nightmare form, and context is at least part of the reason why. If Nightmare Rarity is any indication, not every incarnation of Nightmare Moon is gonna look like that Luna’s the base body. So there’s no reason why Nyx’s Nightmare form should look identical to Luna’s.
 
And when you said a canon character I expected someone from the show, not a one-off comic villain. Hardly what I’d consider canon.
I wouldn’t consider a returning villain from the show a “one-off comic villain” simply because said villain had managed to get a new body in the events of the comic story said villain returns in. And why should the fact that said villain is shown to get a new body in the comics have any bearing on whether if it’s canon or not? You forget that the comics by IDW are official side stories to the show itself. Which, by definition, makes said events canon.
 
But at least she’s menacing, huge with a flowing multi-colored mane, instead of trying to be a cute little alicorn filly with shitty accessories.
And that’s mainly because NMR isn’t supposed to “reincarnation” of NMM, but rather NMM’s comeback in another body and strong as ever. Whereas Nyx is explicitly such a “reincarnation” in the story appears in, and isn’t at full strength at least just yet what kind of she’s in.
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Background Pony #5408
@Pepsi_Al  
It’s subjective. She’s ugly to me. The color scheme is unoriginal and unpleasant to look at. The fact that she’s an alicorn with special eyes don’t add any bonus points to it. She’s generic because she’s special, like a metric ton of other special OCs out there.  
I don’t see where you’re getting at with a comparison to some obscure anime character. That’s not pony.  
And yes, I’m judging her design without the context, the whole time. Because the context doesn’t change that she’s ugly, it just gives a reason for it.
 
And when you said a canon character I expected someone from the show, not a one-off comic villain. Hardly what I’d consider canon.  
But at least she’s menacing, huge with a flowing multi-colored mane, instead of trying to be a cute little alicorn filly with shitty accessories.
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@Background Pony #DDE3  
@Pepsi_Al
She’s pure black with deep purple mane
And that’s ugly, how?
 
and sometimes purple glasses and azure headband, from what I’m getting. Not something I’d categorize as nice to look at.
Well, context-wise, it’s not like Rarity had plenty of time on her hooves to design anything for Nyx to wear. It WAS put together last-minute. After all. What kind of outfit would YOU put together if you were given very little time to do so?
 
Plus her special snowflake eyes to go with her special alicorn status.
Which has nothing to with “ugliness” whatsoever. In all seriousness, if you’re gonna go with stuff like that as justification for finding a certain character “ugly”, you might as well say similar things about Nia Teppelin from TTGL for example. Do you see where I’m getting at?
 
And I get that she’s supposed to be some kind of manifestation of the Nightmare evil, but then don’t make her into a cute little filly that has Twilight be her mother. That’s no better than the armies of generic self-insert alicorn OCs with black color schemes just because this one has hundreds of thousands of words made about her.
And words like this has me thinking that you’re not looking at it in context. I mean, at the very moment Nyx was born, Nightmare was literally stripped of every memory it had and given a clean slate. Do you really think that making Nightmare to, from the very day of its reincarnation, follow the same exact path its always ventured down would be better for the story? I, for one, doubt it.
 
I would very much like to hear about that black and purple unicorn, since I’m drawing blanks trying to think of one.
I thought who I was taking about was obvious.
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Background Pony #5408
@Pepsi_Al  
She’s pure black with deep purple mane and sometimes purple glasses and azure headband, from what I’m getting. Not something I’d categorize as nice to look at. Plus her special snowflake eyes to go with her special alicorn status. It’s hard to give something definite because considering what is ugly is heavily subjective. Someone else could probably word my distaste better, though. And I get that she’s supposed to be some kind of manifestation of the Nightmare evil, but then don’t make her into a cute little filly that has Twilight be her mother. That’s no better than the armies of generic self-insert alicorn OCs with black color schemes just because this one has hundreds of thousands of words made about her.
 
I would very much like to hear about that black and purple unicorn, since I’m drawing blanks trying to think of one.
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Background Pony #5408
@Zahnrad  
I just don’t know what you’re trying to argue for here. I think what you’re trying to say is that Nyx is not ugly because her design is justified by her backstory? And I’m saying that it does not matter. A certain color scheme won’t become nice because you stick a nice story to it. It will just become ugly for a reason.  
If the only defense for calling Nyx ugly is “no she’s not, because this is why it makes sense for her to have these colors…”, sorry, she’s still hideous. The difference between designing first or writing the story first is just that in the former you made an excuse for her being ugly and in the latter you just made her ugly on purpose.
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Pepsi_Al
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@Background Pony #DDE3: Except how is Nyx “ugly”, per se? You’re not really giving me anything definite when you say that. Zahnrad’s right in suggesting that the difference between designing a character after a concept and designing the character first with the concept later. The latter’s more bound to come up with an “ugly” design than the former.
 
I will also point out that there’s actually a canon character (who just so happens to be a Unicorn) that shares Nyx color scheme, and even eye shape. Said character is also praised for her design, and has at least one concept similarity to Nyx.
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Background Pony #5408
@Zahnrad  
There’s a difference in the process, certainly. But the outcome is the same. An ugly OC with a backstory.
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Background Pony #5408
@Zahnrad  
I probabily can’t, you’re right. Luckily, the “quality” of an OC’s backstory does not matter at all when discussing its ugly design. I don’t understand if you’re trying to argue something here or if it was just an attempt to insult me because I said your precious nyx is ugly.
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Background Pony #5408
@Pepsi_Al  
I could make a really cool backstory for my red and black alicorn OC with batwings and whatever as well, but that won’t make the design any more appealing.
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Pepsi_Al
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@Background Pony #DDE3: And forgive me when I say that I don’t really understand the logic behind calling Nyx’s design “ugly”. In the context of the fanfic Nyx originates from, if what she was before becoming Nyx originally had a body, it would have long since been lost well before entering Luna’s body. There likely wouldn’t have been anything for that spell that was cast in the beginning of the story to work on. So, the next best thing that spell to do was essentially build a new one from the ground up using any DNA samples it could get, which would most definitely have come from the physical remains of Nightmare’s most recent appearance(s). I would argue that the fact that Nyx is an Alicorn is because of one of the sources of the DNA used to make her body. And Nyx’s slit pupil eyes and black coat is because of the fact that some of the DNA used to create her body was essentially mutated. (And the mutated DNA didn’t come from Twilight.)
 
@Background Pony #E007: With that said, said monkeys aren’t gonna eat everything that’s fed to them by Hasbro. Especially if how some people feel about the official comics by IDW is any indication.
 
@Lucky Shot: Except the basis for Nyx’s character comes from taking a malevolent character with a penchant for body theft and giving that character its own body as well as turning them good via what’s essentially reincarnation.
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@Lucky Shot  
Nyx’s story at its basest, is either horseshit, or a plot revolving around the “nature vs. nurture” philosophy, and what defines a person the most.
 
But, haha, that is only for those who care enough to read it and care enough to understand it, which is very few, unlike those willing to voice an opinion on it.
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@Background Pony #E007
 
I spent over two years lampooning everything about this show (S3-5) and I still recognize Nyx as retarded horse shit, so you may want to adjust your opinion to something other than a poor excuse for people calling a turd a turd.
 
(Pro tip: Taking a character explicitly defined as only the bad evil traits of someone and making them “good” is absolutely braindead)
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