@Zharkaer  
Guess what, I had to come back! Yay!
 
This is correct. The comments of images are to discuss the image, and very little outside of that specific scope. This has always been the case. Use the forums. Or a blog!
 
@Darth Sonic  
I’m especially disappointed to see that you came back, after already treading on eggshells about me referring to you when talking about comments here as a collective, to post something that very clearly indicated zero deductive reasoning.

@Zharkaer  
But some of the best debates I’ve had have been in the comments of images! Like, that debate I had over the epilogue of Friendship is Optimal. We shouldn’t have to regulate post length as long as we’re talking about the image at hand.

@Darth Sonic  
I imagine that’s because the comments of an image aren’t intended for debates.

@Blissey1  
… Wait, paragraph length is the issue here?!
 
Jesus, this is getting into bullshit Round Stable style of modding.

@CleverTwist  

 
I hate to be that guy who tries to speak for everyone, but I think I’m speaking for everyone when I say that we’re hardly the only ones who don’t like them. I would in fact venture to say that these huge, multi paragraph long debates between two brick walls are of great annoyance to everyone subscribed to this image.

@CleverTwist
 
Oh thanks, deleting my comment because it was “too long.” I appreciate wasting my time…

@noobiestbrony
 
@Arcaire
 
Obviously I didn’t see that until after I was done writing out my thesis. It’s fine though, I’ll leave. Although I think the mods are too quick to jump in and stop conversations if they don’t like them, but that is my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

@Darth Sonic  
We are talking about you. I understand that you came in recently and you didn’t have an intention of getting involved, but I’d recommend leaving, and trying not to post in any more drama threads. It’s time for it to end.

@Arcaire
 
@noobiestbrony  
… Risking a ban here, but you two aren’t talking about me, right?

Enough is enough with derailing these images into drama threads. It is unfair to other users and causes unneeded chaos.
 
I don’t want to see any more arguments here. Take it elsewhere.

I’m gonna say this once, and then I’m gonna go straight to giving you two a break from the site if I have to come back here.
 
Stop posting. Immediately.
 
No response required.

@Darth Sonic  
Wow, what a dick comment.

@CronoM  
Stereotyping? No, I just recognize two conflicting personalities. Honestly, CleverTwist’s sheer disgust with EQG is much more of a problem here than your tendency to, I hate to say it, give DHX too much credit.

@Darth Sonic  
Nah, I don’t think we have enough common ground to continue a discussion.
 
Also, nice stereotyping dude. Real uncool.

@Darth Sonic  
… Which is apparently no longer a thing. That’s dumb as shit, people should have the right to filter this sort of stuff.

Oh boy… CronoM and CleverTwist… Arguing about EQG.
 
I’m just going to add a preemptive “drama in the comments” tag now, because this will get heated. You two are far too entrenched.

@CleverTwist  
“I feel like you just said a whole lot of words, but at the same time also said nothing to properly explain what any of them mean.”
 
I’m not surprised. No offense, but you come across a little like one of those types. You know the ones. The guys who scoff and complain about any explanation that contains the slightest bit of abstractness, and feign not understanding or accepting even the simplest abstract concepts because it is so completely against your grain.
 
First off, I wasn’t using FiM as an example of flaws in my reply, I was using FiM to showcase the interesting stuff in MLP that a lot of people appreciate in the movies and show….but you only saw what I said as flaws. From a psychological standpoint, that’s incredibly telling about your personality.(not that you’ve tried to hide it)
 
I LOVE MLP for having both structured magic and magic of the unknown. One of my favorite animated movies from the past was The Secret of Nimh, a movie that its narrative explained the importance of science, magic, and miracles, the former two of which the rats had mastered but could not use to explain the third, only that it spawns from those chosen with courage of the heart.
 
My understanding? The Mane 6 did not cease being embodiments of their respective element when they sealed the elements away in the tree. They are 6 heroes that can and have surpass any dark fate Equestria can throw at them. The Mane 7 of the human world have no reason not to have this potential, they are who they are, its not limited to the norms of magic like unicorn magic. Unicorn magic starts at magical potential, glowing of the horn, being in Equestria and that’s it. The Elements of Harmony would be hack-creation deadly if they weren’t abstract; you could no more dissect it then you could dissect a living soul. As early As S2E2, its shown they respond to the heart. Anyone not worthy or not yet ready will quickly lose themselves to its power, cause as established in Rainbow Rocks, even Harmony can be distorted and warped. Its power to break all rules to a limited degree is part of what makes it a threat to equestria’s enemies but still a double edged sword at times.
 
The Power of Harmony at its unknown source has nothing to with Magic found everywhere in Equestria but not the human world. The power can exist in both worlds because it IS abstract. It responds to the chosen worthy to wield it. Besides, even the human world pre-Sunset has enough magic in it to have magic portals, just like the human world in the Narnia books.
 
Even the elements of harmony are less abstract and infinitely more explained then random magic in tons of other shows with less world building. I really think your “who cares” perspective on what has been established and what hasn’t is only in your head. Its just that a lot of it is abstract but very understandable, but you consider all things abstract with disdain and consider it laziness.
 
Some things are better off understandable but mysterious in nature.

@Zharkaer
 
Well I’d be willing to give them some slack if they actually tried. But the best we got was “who cares” so to me, all bets are off.

@CleverTwist  
Expecting relatively complex explanations for a series whose main focus isn’t the mechanics of the world is, yes.

@Zharkaer
 
Expecting something rather than nothing is asking for too much, now?

@CleverTwist  
Somehow I think you’re expecting a bit too much.

@CronoM
 
I feel like you just said a whole lot of words, but at the same time also said nothing to properly explain what any of them mean.
 
First off, I don’t know why amytime I bring up flaws with EqG people assume it means I’m saying FiM is in some way flawless. Which it isn’t, I’m well aware of that, and I never implied it was. The elements of harmony are a pretty flimsy set or artifacts with oddly specific rules as to how they work and what dictates who gets to use them and when. But to say that just because a select few people exibit certain character traits “better” than others justifies them to use that power in other worlds is beyond contrived.
 
It is a suprise that the humans can use magic, suddenly, because we aren’t given any clear definition as to what constitutes a “rule” as to how or why magic just happens in a non-magical plane of existence. Because that is where they are, a different reality where magic is not real. But because they need magic to just be there for plot purposes, it happens at random with very clumsy circumstances in order for it to manifest.
 
To say that the human 6 can just use magic because “they are intertwined” with a reality they never knew was there is just…as I said before, incredibly contrived and lazy. We weren’t given any context for that happening or that it was even a possibillity, or that “willpower” was the cause of it. That is all just speculation and head canon. To clarify my last sentence (as it was not the best put) I said when two different worlds, i.e. a magic based one and a non-magic based one, you can’t just run with a story without establishing some limitations or guidelines for the audience to follow before you begin to subvert them. We live in a world where rules exist, things that we can and can’t do because of limitations we have come to learn, like gravity, physiscs and the like.
 
Magic is the same thing, even though it is a fictional concept, most forms of media follow general rules as to what it can and can’t do, but it has the leeway to do much more. So when you introduce something like magic into a world where it doesn’t exist, there needs to be something to dictate what it can or can’t do, who can or can’t use it, and why they can or can’t do it.
 
EqG doesn’t do this, or at the very least it does it very, very poorly.

@CleverTwist  
If that’s your beef with it, MLP:Fim a hell of a show to start watching. Right off the bat from Season 1, we are introduced to unicorn magic(and other species) with traditional magic rules, and the power of Harmony, which is basically miracles based on will. If a villain was ever able to deconstruct the power of miracles themselves, then its complete game over.
 
All of their ponying-up is pretty consistent, expressing their wills until it reaches a peak. Music was at first a harmonious way of self expression, but then it became entirely based on individual will power.
 
Its no surprise that the Mane 6 in the human world would have magical powers, they’re fates are intertwined in both worlds with harmony magic. Willpower based magic that grows, settles, and becomes powers that match their personas is classic anime-esque progression.
 
Also, I can’t make sense of your last sentence. If they’re the first humans to gain this power in the non-magical world, the rules and how it works out will happen way slower then any other scenario. Magic usually takes years to form solid rules in a realm where magic isn’t commonplace.