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Ferrotter
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Yes, but all of that was pre-Internet. Once the access to a public forum that reached across the world, the connection within those fandoms spread like wildfire. The Sonic, Furry, even our fandom would be what they are today without the Internet. And as the Internet grew, so did the collection of OCs.
 
The internet existed long before any of it. However, and I think this is why the problem started around the time of Sonic, the internet’s barrier to entry was high until AOL (access), and Netscape/Yahoo/Google (user friendliness) lowered it in the mid 1990s. That kept quality relatively high. It’s not a perfect correlation by any means, but back then, one’s ability to access the internet basically required at least some college education (because you got your access either from the college you worked for or at least were currently attending; or from a highly technical industry position), and one’s ability to use the internet to access fan content required the knowledge to use Archie, Telnet, FTP, IRC, ACM/Connect, and USENET. So the fan content was made and shared by a filtered set of high-IQ adults, for adults. And they may have had the years under the belt to have practiced their writing or art hobby and gotten passably good.
 
Once the barrier to internet access consisted of the ability to type google.com in a web browser that’s installed standard on every PC and even phone, content and content creation became accessible to people without the smarts or education, and children who (no fault of their own; they’re developing) simply can’t yet produce the kind of quality writing and art that adults could. And worse, angsty high schoolers who are also children but try (and fail) to pretend they’re adults, producing “serious” content they don’t have the life experience to produce without it devolving into an unintentional self-deprecating joke. Since that’s also who Sonic the “edge”hog was marketed to, Sonic fandom got a double whammy. (Why, for instance, you don’t tend to see a lot of edgy red and black Italian plumber OCs with a dark secret and amazing powers, even though Nintendo’s marketing world predates Sega’s by many years.)
 
I think that’s also why FiM content was, at least comparatively, spared. It’s marketed to preschool to preteen girls. And the adult fandom just unexpectedly appeared on top of that. So the content tends to split between endearingly childlike and at least somewhat adult, with little edgy high school junk in the middle. (And even with that, the teens who are into MLP tend not to be the more cringeworthy ones. It’s hard to get into adorable pastel horses when your favorite topics of conversation are how horrible everything is with every aspect of your life and where to find a darker black shade of lipstick to match your mood, or how much lunch money you managed to beat out of Sheldon that day before Dad yelled at you for not giving your all in football practice.)
CleverTwist

@Ferrotter
 
Yes, but all of that was pre-Internet. Once the access to a public forum that reached across the world, the connection within those fandoms spread like wildfire. The Sonic, Furry, even our fandom would be what they are today without the Internet. And as the Internet grew, so did the collection of OCs.
 
Now I’m not saying all OCs are terrible, just a majority of them are. lol Any of them that aren’t can either fall under the actually well made and creative category, or they are just average and uninspired. It’s happened in our fandom, Sonic, Furries, Steven Universe, Darkwing Duck apparently (that was news to me). Every fandom has it. Over the years, it’s just kinda grown a stigma against the concept of “my original character” as usually right off the bad you assume it to be some half-assed creation that is so blatantly terrible you assume it a troll.
 
Would I go so far as to say all OCs are inherently bad? Not exactly, but I’m wouldn’t be up on the hilltops singing their praise either. xD
 
 
@TheRealPonyTheBestPony
 
As I said, man. Being a content creator brings all kinds of people to your door, and not all of them are gonna be nice. You gotta roll witht he punches and learn to deal with those that don’t offer much beyond a “This sucks, kill yourself.” Chances are they are either trolls or they genuinely hate what you do, but either way the best thing to do is like you said and just ignore them. Don’t reply to them, don’t delete their comments, don’t tell them they have to leave. Because that only gives them more fuel. They are like children in that sense. They seek attention for their behavior, and they are willing to accept any action on your part as acknowledgement of their actions. So it’s best to give them nothing and just leave them be.
 
 
@Badheart
 
I hate to break to to ya, but there is no such thing as a “safe place” anywhere. Don’t let Tumblr trick you with their brainswashing “isms”. Safe spaces are lies created by entitled brats that fool people into thinking they can create a place where nothing bad happens to them, which in turn makes them incapable of dealing with the world around them.
 
Not trying to be a jackass here, just telling you the truth.
TheRealPonyTheBestPony

@CleverTwist  
Okay, maybe I should explain myself, since I didn’t want to come off anti-free-speech. I’m just against what I like to call “the double-jackassery cycle”; when an artist creates something that gets insulting or even threatening comments, and they respond in kind with insults and threats.
 
As a novice fanfiction writer myself, I can say first-hand, it hurts a little when someone leaves a negative comment without even saying what they didn’t like, but I always do my best to ignore them, or politely thank them for their time if I think they deserve it. The effort it takes to be frustrated about your work’s poor reception is better spent actually improving your work to avoid more hate in the future. The same goes for the commenters; the less time you spend writing unhelpful flames is more time you can spend finding things you actually like.
 
In summery, yes, both sides have the right to be jackasses, but that doesn’t mean they should; it just ends up with them looking like immature little whiners, and no one will take them seriously. Or maybe I’m just too Canadian. Who knows.
Ferrotter
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

I blame the Sonic fandom …
Then we had the furries enter the scene with all their OCs. …
 
Furries pre-date Sonic the Hedgehog by at least a decade, much less the existence of a Sonic “fandom.” Hell, there were already furry conventions 2 years before Sega even created the Sonic character. The Saturday morning Sonic TV show that started the Sonic fandom as such came another 2 years after that.
 
I do agree though that Sonic fandom played a large role in giving fan-made characters a bad name, but that’s mostly a result of its penetrance. In the same time frame that Sonic fandom began, Darkwing Duck fandom had an even worse percentage of cringeworthy self-insertion wish-fulfillment fanfics. But it was a short-lived show with a short-lived fandom so nobody remembers it. Sonic the commercial property continues to this day, and so Sonic fandom continues to be highly visible. Not to mention the vast catalog of literary and artistic dreck that any fandom would amass over nearly a quarter century of existence.
 
Regardless, even Sonic and Darkwing had some good OCs mixed in with the bad ones. The idea that OCs are inherently bad is pure stupid.
CleverTwist

@TheRealPonyTheBestPony
 
I actually agree. People can and should be encouraged to create whatever they so wish, simply for the sake of their own artistic freedom.
 
At the same time, however, I disagree with your “no right to complain” point. I feel that goes against the creative process. Critique, however good or bad you think it to be, is feedback to a creator. It’s up to them to figure out what to do about it. When you are the one out there creating content, you are subjecting yourself to the process of the artistic and expressive world. Critique, criticism, review, analysis. They are all what audiences and viewers of the craft do, it’s impossible to curb that aspect of free expression.
 
The problem isn’t us telling people they SHOULDN’T create whatever they want, it’s us being told we shouldn’t tell them anything negative. It’s this bizarre hugbox mentallity wherein some think they create a world free from criticism and where art is only ever praised or rewarded.
TheRealPonyTheBestPony

@CleverTwist  
I like to maintain the “we have no right to complain” stance. I have never continued reading a story I didn’t like, never lingered on a picture I didn’t like, and have never downvoted something or left a negative comment without some constructive criticism. Creating things is hard, and if people are trying, more power to them. If it’s not so great, who cares? No one forces you to look at it.
 
Their are hideous, vile, disgusting, and down-right perverted things on the Internet (this site, especially), but I wouldn’t wish for a second that the artist had never put the effort in to make it.
CleverTwist

@TheRealPonyTheBestPony
 
I blame the Sonic fandom for ruining the concept of “Original characters” with their endless tsunamis of Hedgehog fan characaters. Its so bad, there is a meme where you have an OC named after you even if you don’t know it, that’s how many and how bad they are.
 
Then we had the furries enter the scene with all their OCs. And now we are the newest group to plague the internet with our onslaught of pony OCs that…quite frankly are more cringe worthy than not.
 
I think the reason you may not see that from a FimFiction perspective is most OCs in stories are created for a singular purpose within the limits of that story. Most don’t stand out, some are created specifically to be the main characters, but for the most part they don’t have any features to make them really anything beyond the confines of the literary work they belong to. And even there the OCs situation can be pretty bad.
TheRealPonyTheBestPony

Why do people criticize OCs so much? Maybe I’m just not getting the context, coming from the FimFiction side of Bronyland, but I just see OCs as characters used to populate and drive a plot line. Obviously, that can be done poorly, but there are so many amazing fanfictions with wonderful characters that I would never say that there is something inherantly wrong with OCs, as long as you don’t forger the ‘character’ part of ‘original character’.
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@Fayte  
I have never heard of that to be honest nor have I any problem with Sombra, in fact that animation fall of crystal empire is great it totally should be canon.
Fayte

@Poison Trail  
Um. Wasn’t Sombra the one that was so hated by the community that it got to the point that the creators actually made a formal apology explaining that they were trying something new by making a villain that was more like a force of nature than an enemy with a story/personality?
CleverTwist

@the metal bronyhead
 
I can’t think of any OC the fandom has produced, other than Fluffle Puff, that I enjoy. Maybe Chaos Gun, but that is an intentionally bad OC for jokes, so I don’t count that. I mean any genuine OC created by someone, to me, they are either bad or just uninteresting.
 
 
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Wait….people still go to Equestria Daily? I stopped using that site years ago…
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And that’s when “Hasdrone” and “shill” started getting bandied about as popular insults directed at people who DARED to still like the show after the goddess Faust left.