To all the comments who say that Equestria Girls and Friendship is Magic are not canon, I say, “have you forgotten what happened in EQG itself? It’s explicitly stated that the first movie comes right after Twilight is turns into an alicorn, Rainbow Rocks is after the Season Four Finale as we see the castle, but not the map yet.

(Also someone said, why weren’t the pillars in the book yet, but it’s also stated that in season 7, that no one remembered the pillars were connected to Star Swirl. I think). Friendship Games takes place after season 5 what with Twilight talking about the time loop.

Legend of Everfree is the first film that doesn’t have any connection to the show. Then we have the shorts. I think the four main line films were the best EQG had to offer, and the shorts got pretty boring, among other things.

Anyway, we see Starlight, we see Sunset interacting with Luna and Celestia. In Spring Breakdown, we directly references the 2017 film. As for the show, while yes not as many references, we of course got the sirens, and a cameo of Sunset and Flash in the final song of the show. So, with all these facts, I think Equestria Girls is totally canon. And if anyone responds to this please try and be polite

I agree that the Equestria Girls franchise is canon to Friendship is Magic. Because everything’s canon!

@Der Fallschirmjager  
 
The show begs to differ

And this is a perfect example of why I don’t visit EQD anymore.

@Background Pony #A5DB
 
Quoting what Cyan replied to you, this conversation seems a fight between who owns the truth or not. The thing is, as much as someone have the way to prove that their thought is more legitimately correct than others, that doesn’t mean that the mindset will change, in fact, depending of how the opinion it’s presented it will actually provoke a bitter sensation to the other user. This conversation also depends on the interpretation (or headcanon) that each one decided to have; what about to acknowledge the other opinion, but still stand the point?

@Background Pony #A5DB  
Sigh, do you really have to reply me with that? First of this conversation is nothing but trying to prove who is the one that are right. Yes it is related to image, but my comment wasn’t about me moderating the image, but just suggestion that because there is no middle ground here and Supes and other trying to proof other for being wrong and In my experience this type of conversation is nothing but only gave you a headache.

@Cyan Lightning  
I thought it was an interesting conversation. Plus it has something to do with said image, how could one not expect such conversations?

@Tavi959  
But you can’t be so blind and just accept everything they say… Do you want an example? Look at this:  
https://twitter.com/TheBiggestJim/status/706175416969596929  
The fans really need to filter what they say ‘cause sometimes they really don’t know what they are even saying. Here it is another example:  
The time when Nick didn’t even know that twins were a thing on the series. What do you think the fans did? Yes, they just agreed with everything that Nick said even though the series shows us that Nick is wrong.  
I would say that the show producers wouldn’t even care about this: you don’t have to like it, man. That’s why Sunset’s not going to appear. Because some people wouldn’t like it. In the leaks, they said that Lauren didn’t like EqG at all, and we are not talking about the fans. And they canceled it? No. Why they would even care about what the fans  
would want? I mean, I see here many posts of people hating Starlight Glimmer and telling how she is terrible everyday. Did the show staff deleted her from the series? No.  
They just don’t mention EqG ’cause of this:  
 
I still think that Sunset can appear on season 9. But the numerous mentions of My Little Pony: The Movie on season 8 it was priceless. EqG just had that Flash Sentry and that short appearance of the Dazzlings.

@Supes  
I’m just going to point out that Word of God is perfectly acceptable. The sole reason Equestria Girls will never be brought up directly in FiM is because they don’t want to force people to watch EG to understand who the hell Sunset Shimmer is and why she matters.
 
This is the nature of spinoffs. They don’t have to interact directly to take place in the same universe. You don’t have to like it, but the simple fact is that Equestria Girls takes place in the same universe and events that tie them to each other have been shown. The banishment of the sirens, which otherwise has no bearing on FiM, was shown as an actual thing that Starswirl did. That’s not a “reference” that’s a plot tie-in.
 
You don’t have to like it, man. That’s why Sunset’s not going to appear. Because some people wouldn’t like it. But it doesn’t change the fact that both universes canonically share a major event that ties their plots to each other. Choosing to ignore a fact doesn’t mean it’s not there. Where did the sirens go? Irrelevant to the FiM plot, but you can’t just claim that “maybe they were sent somewhere else” just because it wasn’t specifically mentioned. That’s not a valid argument when the staff themselves have clarified that the two events are the same one.
 
I’m not saying you’re flat out wrong. It’d be nice if Sunset got to appear during the final season or something. What you’re saying applies to the comics, as per the staff who have basically said it’s not canon unless the show makes it so. Likewise with other external media. It just doesn’t apply to EG for the reasons I stated above. Word of God beats fan theory every time, like it or not. Because we don’t decide what’s canon, they do.

@Cyan Lightning  
Okay. Thanks for tolerating it to this point.

You know, what guys. As much as I like to encourage discussion, this argument is nothing, but try to ‘provide who is right”, honestly let’s just agree to disagree now.

Seriously guys just ignore supes. Don’t entertain foolishness.

@Supes
 
>This is getting ridiculous. You shouldn’t need evidence for something that is self-evident. Spin-offs are what spin-offs are. Unless explicitly acknowledged in their main series, they’e separate things.
 
lol no
 
They’re canon parts of the franchise unless explicitly stated otherwise.
 
>References don’t mean anything.
 
Things that happened in EqG, which are then shown to have happened in the main series, don’t mean anything. What.
 
Your wishful thinking blinds you to the most elementary logic, it seems.

@Supes  
Plus, I can assure you that there are star wars fans that absolutely REFUSE to consider the prequels as canon, as if they were a secondary product, like they never existed.
 
By that logic, you could say that the fact that the T-Rex in the Jurassic World movies is confirmed to be the same one from the first movie by the creators is meaningless

@Supes  
This seems what happened in final episode of Pokémon XYZ all over again.  
In that episode, Serena kissed Ash. The kiss was off screen because they wanted that scene to air on TV in the first place, without any censorship issue.  
But since the kiss itself was off screen, there were plenty of people (mostly anti-amourshippers) that were firmly convinced that the kiss was only on the cheek, or even didn’t happen AT ALL since it wasn’t shown, that it wasn’t canon.  
First: the kiss DID happen in that scene because it was obvious AS HECK;  
Second: when asked about the “APPARENTLY happened” kiss in an interview, the creators themselves stated “In that scene, it doesn’t SEEM that they’re kissing: they ARE kissing”.  
Yet some fans still refuse to accept that.  
There you go. Somehow, a very similar if not the EXACT SAME situation: something that some fans still don’t (or WON’T) consider as canon, despite creators confirmed it as 100% canon.  
Still, the fact that those fans don’t consider it as canon doesn’t affect the fact that it IS.

@Angrybrony  
I can spell it out for the ones with difficulties in reading comprehension.  
You know why the movie is canon? Because season 8 explicitly mentioned Storm King, the mane6’s adventure to Mount Eris, Tempest Shadow, etc.
 
If the main series did none of that, but just had Mount Eris on the Friendship Map without anyone ever mentioning the events of the movie, then it wouldn’t be total canon.
 
I don’t know why you’re struggling so much. It’s not that hard to understand. References to something are not the same thing as explicitly acknowleding it as canon.

@Supes  

 

 
i’m speechless…mostly cuz i say things i wanna say i’mma get banned.

@4574  

 
This is getting ridiculous. You shouldn’t need evidence for something that is self-evident. Spin-offs are what spin-offs are. Unless explicitly acknowledged in their main series, they’e separate things.
 

 
lol no.
 

 
References don’t mean anything. As you’re failing to grasp, the existence of Sirens or Flash Sentry doesn’t logically mean the existence of the human world, Sunset Shimmer, or Twilight having gone on any of her EqG adventures. Unless the show references those specific things, it’s not any more important than a pop-cultural reference.
 

 
How is your reading comprehension? Did you miss how I stated that I wouldn’t mind EqG being canon and that I like EqG in general? This has nothing to do with me not wanting it to be canon, only with me not wanting to use bad logic like you do. Come up with your own arguments instead of trying to seem smart by parroting mine.
 
 
@Background Pony #7AF4  
It doesn’t actually matter what the creators state if their product doesn’t support their statements. The product itself is the only source of canonicity. Everything officially released but separate and detachable from a main series is optional canon. The star wars prequels are part of their main series, they’re not a spin-off. What WAS optional canon, before Disney completely negated it, was the extended universe.

@Background Pony #2F65  
No. Are you way behind on the episodes or something?

@4574  
Yes, a product that contains multiple references to EqG. This is a joke, right?

@Supes  
Please provide evidence that a spinoff has, “a completely different role and position in canonicity from any season of the main show.”
 
>Twilight Sparkle is in both EqG and FiM, why did we need to wait for the sirens to use this absurd logic to declare EqG canon?
 
We didn’t. EqG was always canon.
 
>Of course it isn’t. They can say whatever they want, the only thing that determines the canon is the actual product.
 
Yes, a product that contains multiple references to EqG.
 
Your wishful thinking blinds you to the most elementary logic, it seems.

@Supes  
It’s not optional when the creators themselves stated that is full canon.  
People can accept or not accept whatever they want, but it doesn’t make it less canon.  
Just like the examples I made in my previous comment; You could not consider those stuff, but the creators stated they’re canon.  
You could refuse to watch or consider non-canon the star wars prequels, but of George Lucas stated they’re totally canon, they could remain non-canon in your book, but they are objective canon, nothing less.  
So is EG.  
It doesn’t matter what fan CONSIDER, only what the creators STATED.

@4574  
That is not my logic. If you treat EqG the same way as another season of FiM, that’s your problem, not mine. Only someone willingly obtuse would argue that EqG isn’t a spinoff. It’s always been a spinoff, therefore it has a completely different role and position in canonicity from any season of the main show.
 
@Background Pony #7AF4  
EqG is very much optional canon because it’s not part of the main series and nothing in FiM depends on it. Simple as that. It’s a side story that people can accept or not accept as having happened, while you can’t just choose to pretend something in FiM didn’t canonically happen.
 
 
@4574  

 
Of course it isn’t. Twilight Sparkle is in both EqG and FiM, why did we need to wait for the sirens to use this absurd logic to declare EqG canon? Heck, if you wanna pretend that them being first introduced in EqG somehow makes it different, what do the sirens have that Flash Sentry didn’t have in his season 4 cameo?  

 
Of course it isn’t. They can say whatever they want, the only thing that determines the canon is the actual product.  

It’s not “solid evidence that it’s not canon”, it’s simply more examples of a total lack of evidence that it IS.