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You apparently didn’t actually read my reply. I’m not providing a source because I’m not digging through years worth of tweets across a half-dozen Twitter accounts for you.
 
I know that. I’m just saying that that is your own fault.
 
I could dig up fifty tweets proving what I’m saying and you’d just dismiss them anyway, going on MY own experience.
 
You don’t know that. The reason I’m dismissing you is precisely because you haven’t done that.
 
“Muh opinions supersede your opinions, therefore I’m right” was your theme.
 
Nice job building a strawman. Every point I’ve debated you on has been a claim of fact. I’ve never stated any opinions in this conversation.
 
At this point, I don’t care if you don’t believe me.
 
Then don’t. Again, I don’t care at this point.
 
You’re right, I AM replying. To tell you I don’t care what you think at this point. I’m punching out and nailing the unsubscribe button after I hit reply.
 
You apparently “don’t care” so much that you felt the need to make an angry and condescending reply telling me how much you “don’t care”. I don’t buy it.
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You still haven’t provided a source for that. All you have to do is like to where they said that, It’s not that hard. If you can’t do that, I have no reason to believe you. I’m not going to take your word that any writer ever said any of those things. All you have to do is provide a source. Why is that so hard?
 
You apparently didn’t actually read my reply. I’m not providing a source because I’m not digging through years worth of tweets across a half-dozen Twitter accounts for you. At this point, I don’t care if you don’t believe me. I’m tired of seeing notifications about this stupid thread. I could dig up fifty tweets proving what I’m saying and you’d just dismiss them anyway, going on MY own experience.
 
If you’re not willing to provide evidence for your claims, I’m not willing to accept them.
 
Then don’t. Again, I don’t care at this point.
 
If you’re not willing to put in the effort to provide proof of your claims, I have no reason to accept them as true.
 
Be my guest. This conversation was pointless from the beginning. “Muh opinions supersede your opinions, therefore I’m right” was your theme.
 
I hope that you to hold to your word by not continuing, but due to past experiences, I have reason to believe that you won’t, and will reply to me anyway.
 
You’re right, I AM replying. To tell you I don’t care what you think at this point. I’m punching out and nailing the unsubscribe button after I hit reply.
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People have asked the new writers as they came on if they’d followed the show previously, if they knew the established lore, etc. And a few have said they had not, and they weren’t even required to watch a single episode before writing one. THAT got a lot of negative attention.
 
You still haven’t provided a source for that. All you have to do is like to where they said that, It’s not that hard. If you can’t do that, I have no reason to believe you. I’m not going to take your word that any writer ever said any of those things. All you have to do is provide a source. Why is that so hard?
 
Again, you’ve not been paying attention.
 
Paying attention to what? You claimed that recent episodes repeated past lessons and ignored previous character development, yet you provided no evidence of said claim anywhere. It’s not my job to prove your claims for you. If you’re not willing to provide evidence for your claims, I’m not willing to accept them.
 
I’m not going to dig through three years worth of Twitter feeds for you for staff quotes.
 
If you’re not willing to put in the effort to provide proof of your claims, I have no reason to accept them as true.
 
I’m not going to continue wasting time on someone who obviously wasn’t paying attention
 
That’s what they all say.
 
I hope that you to hold to your word by not continuing, but due to past experiences, I have reason to believe that you won’t, and will reply to me anyway.
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What is your source for that? Even if that’s true, how do you know that they didn’t watch previous episodes after being hired? Also, what about story editors and the approval process?
 
Uh, the staff themselves? Not my fault if you’ve not been paying attention. People have asked the new writers as they came on if they’d followed the show previously, if they knew the established lore, etc. And a few have said they had not, and they weren’t even required to watch a single episode before writing one. THAT got a lot of negative attention.
 
You still haven’t demonstrated that is has. As far as I can tell, I’m right.
 
Again, you’ve not been paying attention.
 
I’m not going to continue wasting time on someone who obviously wasn’t paying attention, and I’m not going to dig through three years worth of Twitter feeds for you for staff quotes.
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The same marketing heads decided to can G4 simply so they could spin off G5 and do with it 100% what they wanted from the get-go. No, the two are not the same at all
 
That is a very big assumption you’re making. How do you know that that is the reason that FIM is ending? How do you know that it’s not the other way around?
 
So the complaints I read in the fandom about exactly that
 
And? The fact that multiple people make those complains does not make them valid.
 
the new writers themselves said they came into the franchise unaware of previous episodes
 
What is your source for that? Even if that’s true, how do you know that they didn’t watch previous episodes after being hired? Also, what about story editors and the approval process?
 
The show’s never repeated past lessons, or ignored previous character development. Okay. Sure.
 
You still haven’t demonstrated that is has. As far as I can tell, I’m right.
 
A whole lot of other people believe this opinion. Happy now, duck?
 
It’s not an opinion, though.
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How about I’ll keep my skepticism since it’ll be headed up by Hasbro marketing heads this time, and we already know some of the stupid stuff they wanted to do before, some of the stuff they DID do, and some of the stuff they want to do now?
This show was headed my hasbro marketing as well. Pretty much every piece of media has heat executive involvement.
 
The same marketing heads decided to can G4 simply so they could spin off G5 and do with it 100% what they wanted from the get-go. No, the two are not the same at all.
 
You made the claim that the recent seasons “retread stuff and ignore past episodes”. That is not an opinion. That is an objective claim, one which happens to be false.
 
So the complaints I read in the fandom about exactly that, and the fact that the new writers themselves said they came into the franchise unaware of previous episodes (and some saying they’d never seen any) never existed and is false. The show’s never repeated past lessons, or ignored previous character development. Okay. Sure.
 
 
you claimed that other people also believed this same claim that is not an opinion.
 
A whole lot of other people believe this opinion. Happy now, duck?
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How about I’ll keep my skepticism since it’ll be headed up by Hasbro marketing heads this time, and we already know some of the stupid stuff they wanted to do before, some of the stuff they DID do, and some of the stuff they want to do now?
 
This show was headed my hasbro marketing as well. Pretty much every piece of media has heat executive involvement.
 
After you literally just told me not to make absolutes based on subjective opinions, you give an absolute based on your subjective opinion.
 
You made the claim that the recent seasons “retread stuff and ignore past episodes”. That is not an opinion. That is an objective claim, one which happens to be false. When I said as much, you claimed that other people also believed this same claim that is not an opinion. So no, I’m not giving “an absolute based on your subjective opinion”, I’m saying that people are wrong for believing an objective falsehood that is not an opinion. Either way, “some people agree with me” is never a valid argument.
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So we trade known qualities for unknown qualities and hope for the best! The Hasbro marketing-led best.
Pretty much every show has its own crew, and we don’t always know if they’re good. Do you worry about every upcoming show just because you are unfamiliar with its crew? You’re being unreasonable. Just give it the benefit of the doubt.
 
How about I’ll keep my skepticism since it’ll be headed up by Hasbro marketing heads this time, and we already know some of the stupid stuff they wanted to do before, some of the stuff they DID do, and some of the stuff they want to do now?
 
Those people are wrong.
 
After you literally just told me not to make absolutes based on subjective opinions, you give an absolute based on your subjective opinion. Quack, quack.
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So we trade known qualities for unknown qualities and hope for the best! The Hasbro marketing-led best.
 
Pretty much every show has its own crew, and we don’t always know if they’re good. Do you worry about every upcoming show just because you are unfamiliar with its crew? You’re being unreasonable. Just give it the benefit of the doubt.
 
Very few recent episodes, huh? I seem to recall plenty in the fandom complaining about how quality was dropping a few seasons ago.
 
Those people are wrong.
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Again, keep on eye on the upcoming specials like “Rainbow Roadtrip” if you want to get an idea of how these writers are like (and in the meantime you can watch the Equestria Girls shorts that are already released).
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It’s not like the FIM crew are the only skilled people in the industry. There are tons of skilled people everywhere.
 
So we trade known qualities for unknown qualities and hope for the best! The Hasbro marketing-led best.
 
Very few recent episodes even do that. Never talk down to people for having a different opinion then you.
 
Very few recent episodes, huh? I seem to recall plenty in the fandom complaining about how quality was dropping a few seasons ago.
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It’s not like Boulder Media has never worked with the series before. They made some of the Equestria Girls shorts and you will soon be able to see their work with ponies when the specials are released later this year (the first of which will be “Rainbow Roadtrip”).
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So sure, let’s just compare it to everything before and say changing all the crew shouldn’t worry people in the slightest. Because that’s what happened between the previous gens.
 
It’s not like the FIM crew are the only skilled people in the industry. There are tons of skilled people everywhere.
 
Yeah, because retreading stuff and ignoring past episodes is totally the key to great content!
 
Very few recent episodes even do that. Never talk down to people for having a different opinion then you.
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Each of the cartoons in the franchise have had completely different crews. At most, G4 shares some VAs with G3. Besides, companies don’t like to hire unskilled songwriters.
 
Annnd? Are you seriously comparing dreck like G3.5 that was nothing more than a season’s worth of the company trying to get a last cash grab out of an old, nearly-dead franchise at that point to G4? FiM was the biggest boost to the franchise, ever. It exceeded their wildest dreams, and them some. So sure, let’s just compare it to everything before and say changing all the crew shouldn’t worry people in the slightest. Because that’s what happened between the previous gens.
 
Your opinion is not a fact. You should not make declarative statements when expressing an opinion.
 
Yeah, because retreading stuff and ignoring past episodes is totally the key to great content!
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On a brighter note, Daniel can finally listen to years worth of community music now.
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I hope the increased continuity means we can have as many characters as we ended up with by the end of S8 without needing an extremely contrived reason for them all to live in Ponyville. Have an actual travel arc or multiple simultaneous stories at once.
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I personally love the writing of S7 and the latter half of S8. There’s more subjectivity involved than objectivity when discussing writing quality.
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@Vinyl Fluff  
Each of the cartoons in the franchise have had completely different crews. At most, G4 shares some VAs with G3. Besides, companies don’t like to hire unskilled songwriters.
 
@Vinyl Fluff  
The writing quality definitely started going downhill in the last few seasons.
 
Your opinion is not a fact. You should not make declarative statements when expressing an opinion.
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I really hope there is significant turnover in the writer’s room. Otherwise, G5 will be a rehash of G4 with new designs and more world-building instructions from Hasbro.
Things carrying over the entire current team from G4 to G5 can do:
  1. Re-tell stories from G4 without fans flipping out that it’s more or less a rerun (but the fans will complain anyway, so there’s no need for a reboot and the complainants would be better served by watching G4 reruns anyway)
  2. Re-do episodes with poor execution. Or, they can use newer G4 characters (such as the students of the Friendship school that they dropped in) to re-tell the bombed episodes if it was the established Mane 6 dynamics that forced the episode to be out-of-character.
  3. Be a known quantity (or you can just re-watch G4)
Daniel is the one person I’d most hope stays on for G5: if it’s mostly everyone else but him, G5 will just be G4 with weird-looking ponies and a bit more cartoon violence (if the TV-Y7 rating rumors are to be believed). Less of a chance to tell new stories and more of a chance to tell the same stories again but with different-looking ponies so fans have to buy the toys all over again.
 
Yeah I agree, the writers definitely need a changeover. The writing quality definitely started going downhill in the last few seasons.
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I really hope there is significant turnover in the writer’s room. Otherwise, G5 will be a rehash of G4 with new designs and more world-building instructions from Hasbro.
 
Things carrying over the entire current team from G4 to G5 can do:
 
  1. Re-tell stories from G4 without fans flipping out that it’s more or less a rerun (but the fans will complain anyway, so there’s no need for a reboot and the complainants would be better served by watching G4 reruns anyway)  
  2. Re-do episodes with poor execution. Or, they can use newer G4 characters (such as the students of the Friendship school that they dropped in) to re-tell the bombed episodes if it was the established Mane 6 dynamics that forced the episode to be out-of-character.  
  3. Be a known quantity (or you can just re-watch G4)
     
    Daniel is the one person I’d most hope stays on for G5: if it’s mostly everyone else but him, G5 will just be G4 with weird-looking ponies and a bit more cartoon violence (if the TV-Y7 rating rumors are to be believed). Less of a chance to tell new stories and more of a chance to tell the same stories again but with different-looking ponies so fans have to buy the toys all over again.
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@Vinyl Fluff
Daniel is not the only good songwriter in the world.
 
You don’t say?
 
What he is, however, is a known quality. With him on a project, you know the music will be good. If he’s not on G5, that’s just one more MLP vet we don’t have to look forward to.