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It’s funny to see how at least 5 multi-year spanning stories just so happened to end on the same year…
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No, it was a very loud train wreck.
Again, drones really wouldn’t do much. Because first of how small they are. Second, because you have to remotely guide them and aim them if you want to pull off the Holdo Maneuver. And third, you’re forgetting the major reason why the Holdo Maneuver even worker. Surprise. The First Order ships were not expecting a Resistance ship to make a suicide run at them like that, so they did not move. So no, the Holdo Maneuver really does not break the lore as you claim.
By “not bring it up” I meant the debate over the Holdo Maneuver as a piece of writing. AKA, a full on TLJ debate. I’m just talking about the viability of drone warfare here.
Then maybe you shouldn’t have brought it up again.
So you’d be fine with wasting perfectly good hyperdrives and construction to create what are essentially overglorified torpedoes. First, to do the damage Holdo did(and she only managed to hit because the enemy fleet was completely still and their flagship was huge) you’d need a ship with the same amount of mass. So you’d be wasting your time building a hundred unmaned ships of the size of a cruiser just to destroy them. And once you run out of them, what then? You’d need to build even more to replace them. And you need to find some way to get them into space, guide and fire them. All seems like a waste of time. Especially given whether or not you can hit them.
Also, you do realize unmaned drones in today’s warfare are used to take out stationary targets right? Starship battles work very differently. Ships are spread out. Holdo only managed to do it because all the First Order ships were clustered together right in front of her and didn’t know what she was going to do. You try employing these things as a standard tactic, the enemy is going to develop countermeasures.
I’m gonna leave EVERYTHING else alone, because I don’t want to get dragged into this particular debate again (even asked mods to delete my last comment), but I can’t leave this one solitary point alone because it’s just that dumb:
Connect the dots.
Edit: Saw that you actually got into a back in forth on this. Your response brought up expense as a reason as to why this tactic wouldn’t completely replace crewed warships. Fair. But the hyperspace drones would not be so prohibitively expensive as to not be viable AT ALL. Yet the Holdo Maneuver is presented as this novel thing, and we never see fleets being soften up by such tactics before.
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>implying every franchise isn’t a ploy for money
time to learn how merchandising works
Backstabbing?
Well, maybe the Discord and Cozy Glow parts were controversial to the point of a problem, specifically.
Everything else is just personal taste.
no it wasn’t
The finale DID try to be epic.
And at some parts, it WAS a backstabbing mess.
People are way too hard on the finale. I really can’t find anything wrong with it. How is it “backstabbing”?
I totally agree with you, here.
Seriously? The finale for MLP was a good one. TROS was just awful.
Personally, I don’t think the MLP finale was a “betraying wimper” at all.
I said I never said anything about Reylo shippers. But I once against stand by that the Last Jedi haters are the most toxic.
And how would that take out the Death Star? If anything it’ll just punch a huge hole in it and nothing else.
I never disagreed about the bombers. They are worse than Y-wings.
The Canto Bytes subplot however I disagree with. It was part of Finn’s growth as a character. As well as some good world building about what the rest of the galaxy has been doing during the war. And what this is, is profiting from it.
You mean succeeding on her first try like Luke did on his first try flying an X-wing and blowing up the Death Star?
Yes, I don’t have a problem with Force Ghosts having that power. It’s implied they are essentially all powerful, but cannot intervene directly because that would make them essentially gods. Instead, they use their powers to teach, like Yoda just did with Luke.
Why wouldn’t fuel be a concern? Just because it hasn’t been brought up before in other Star Wars movies doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. For crying out loud, refueling stations exist in Star Wars. Part of the reason space ports exist is for ships to refuel. They must run on something. The fuel complaint is one of the dumbest complaints about TLJ, which is saying a lot.
Poe got a entire squadron killed and all their bombers wiped out in a suicide attack despite him being ordered to retreat. He deserved that demotion. Especially since the Resistance has so few people left. Every ship and personnel is vital. Poe’s arrogance and hotheadedness cost them dearly. That’s why he had to learn the lesson of not making rash decisions to grow as a character.
The Throne Room fight was awesome. Some great fights with the heroes pitted against enemies not just using lightsabers but cool new weapons that forced Kylo and Rey to improvise and use their own weapons in new ways. Certainly better than the completely one-sided “fight” between Kylo and the Knights of Ren in Rise of Skywalker.
The only point you made is you’re just making the same arguments all the other Last Jedi haters have made and are refusing to actually see both sides.
You complained about Rian Johnson being a poor director and writer despite not seeing any of his other work. Solely judging him based on your personal dislike of The Last Jedi. So I made a counter-argument.
A little hard to portray that online. Winking smile or no. When one can’t see another’s face, you can’t actually if they’re being serious.
How is being wounded in combat(yet still able to fight if you recall) not make you a good example? Unlike Padme-I trust guys like Palpatine and marry men who killed women and children-Amidala. Padme only exists to be a stooge for Palpatine and to be a love interest for Anakin. For more, see this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-Anpo8AvY
Rey was a for more empowering female figure and role model. Until Rise of Skywalker made her nothing special except being related to someone important, undid all her character development, and just basically told Luke’s story all over again with her.
Only you and the most die-hard haters will keep insisting The Last Jedi was bad. Everyone else has begun realizing that its seriously and ridiculously overhated.
Difference is, Rise of Skywalker deserves it.
If that’s so, then please don’t respond back. Because I will bring that up again and again. And your hate for The Last Jedi isn’t going to make other people hate it more. Nor will it change the fact it is far better than you are giving it credit for.
So, yeah. You kinda did.
Only the Death Star.
Nor did I ever type a single word of crashing Rebel ships into Imperial ships – ever since the beginning, I’ve said they should’ve, based on TLJ, used hyperdrive missiles, possibly converted X-Wings as a quick-and-dirty jury-rigged option, against the Death Star.
Did you even read what I wrote, or did you just imagine me saying something easier to refute…?
I’m probably forgetting something, but I think I’ve made my point.
How?
… Hey, mind answering a hypothetical for me?
You’re walking in a desert, and you come across a turtle. You flip it over on its back…
I guess Leia isn’t a good example either ‘cause she’s wounded in combat on Endor…
No, that doesn’t magically make TLJ good.
I mean, you’ve seen the image we’re commenting on, right? Right?
Getting tired of repeating myself.
Wow, that was quite the wall of text, most of which you’ll probably just ignore again.
This is getting out of hand overall, I think that’s my cue to unsub.
Have a good one.
I agree. Honestly, it was much better than us just having another “big bad” character for the season. Plus, it had Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow do something other than be Grogar’s flunkies.
I never said that.
YES. Because you’re taking a entire ship, which the Rebels don’t have many to begin with, and sending it crashing into enemy ships. Also, you’d only manage to take out a few ships at most since you are launching your ship in a straight line. Holdo only managed to pull it off because the First Order fleet was just sitting there.
Except there aren’t any other flaws. Things you personally have problems with don’t count. Not everyone will agree on that.
According to you. He actually did something better with The Last Jedi that the other sequels lack. And that is a real story.
Also, you’re judging him as a bad writer and director solely based on you not liking The Last Jedi. Its indeed relevant because you made it relevant.
Uh no. I dislike it because its long, boring, inane, and wasted a lot of potential. Instead giving us scenes of 15 minutes of pod-racing filler, Jar Jar comedy, CGI noise, and a Anakin who cannot act. Its a bad movie, but Rise of Skywalker may be worse.
Also, Padme is not the best example of women in power since she gets manipulated by Palpatine.
Action doesn’t replace story. Ever hear of style over substance. And there was far too much action in Rise of Skywalker and not enough story. Characters like Finn and Poe got pushed to the side and were basically pointless. Johnson actually gave them both character development and had them play a central role in the story. And yet people bash The Last Jedi.
You’re basing him once again solely on one movie without even judging his other works. And Star Wars is supposed to be a very visual spectacle so the movie having impressive visuals is a given no matter who is directing it.
Hopefully the high republic trilogy will be better. (Apparently they’re going to the old republic for the next set of movies sometime next year)
One of my favorite examples of this is the MLP series finale. It was good, really! But some people thought the “Discord being Grogar” twist was the worst crime ever committed since genocide.