There is an internet term for such “discussion” but it’s not very polite. It’s not offensive to anything but to the intellect, as such mutual reinforcing of a common preconception is better done “in private someplace.”

“Oh yes…mhm, I agree” comments are as pointless as political bickering on DB.

Youtube comments sections are much spicier.

I don’t know what you could consider as valuable for “serious, reasoned debate” on the internet nowadays.

/mlpol/ has better mods than pretty much anywhere else

And no, I’m not adding someone on a social network for having a facetious attitude towards a philosophy. Debate should be open, if not in a DB comments section.

He (Moonatik) seemed to feel similarly to me about libertarian thought, so I didn’t feel a need to be very thorough with how I discussed the subject with him. I’m also an atheist, for instance, and I don’t feel a need to go into the deep, dark depths of theism and philosophy every time I talk to other atheists about theism/religion. We already likely agree on most points and both have knowledge of the subject, so I don’t need to go into as much depth. Which is why I said, “were I debating with a Libertarian,” in which case I’d have a very different approach to how I would discuss the subject with that person.

My comments to Moontaik weren’t meant to be a thorough ‘debunking’ in the first place. Basically, you could probably distill what we said down to, Me: “Libertarian arguments don’t make sense do they?” Him: “Nope.”

If that’s how you want to use the button, go for it. Not that it even matters in this case because I don’t have an active vote on the image right now. I’m ambivalent about the picture; it’s just a picture. There’s nothing about the picture as a ‘work of art’ that I disagree with. I came for the comments section, and so here we are.

I’d be okay discussing such topics (as in, seriously discussing, not the style of banter here in the comments) in a more private setting. For actual, real political conversation, I’ve ironically found little value in going to places ‘tailor made’ for it. Given that /mlpol/ comes from 4chan, a place I don’t hold much value to for serious, reasoned debate, I don’t know that I’d get much from going there.

i just wanna grill

 

On the topic of smugness…

On the subject of downvote button…

If you actually want to get your feet wet and show how you’ve “done your research,” then my invitation to discussion on /mlpol/ threads is still open

“I can be rude up to the point that I start getting censored and then I’ll stop.”

@Background Pony #0566
I like being smug, when I’m in a position to. I’m okay with smugness if it’s warranted, but it should probably be earned.

I’d grant you that, were I debating with a Libertarian. But I wasn’t, so far as I could tell. I was just being smug with someone who already seemed to think like me, so we could be smug together. So sorry to offend you with our mutual smug-ness.

whiny Libertarians who themselves know little of their own ideology. Maybe that isn’t you[/bg]
I agree insofar as it describes the “big-L” ‘Libertarians’ of the Libertarian Party in America. If you want to also impugn “small-l” ‘libertarians’ who actually value studying economics rather than follow a trendy political party, then try harder.

@xRei

@Background Pony #0566
What’s the point of the downvote button if not for someone to downvote things they don’t like? Seriously, I never understand this perspective. Is it there only to bring attention to things which break ToS? No, that can’t be.. there’s already a ‘Report’ button for that. So, what then? Is it only for pictures of a type I like but whose quality I didn’t like? That seems arbitrary. As arbitrary as me downvoting this image, for whatever reason I want. Or for no reason at all. That’s what the button is there for[/bg]
How you use the downvote button is up to you, but it’s better served being used on very low-effort “art” and giving a cold dose of reality to individuals who refuse to improve past a beginner-level style even after months. The whole reason for a tag system is so you can view precisely what you want and not feel inclined to downvote anything you come across that you don’t like. I don’t like futa, but I’m not about to make an account to downvote Moonatik’s work and mock futadom in the comments. Doing so indicates one’s not serious about criticism but just wants to stir up controversy.

I don’t even particularly like this pic of Leslie though it’s of middling quality: the proportions and facial expression are wonky. However, it’s obvious that mass downvoting is not due to stylistic concerns but because “libertarianism is dumb.” If you actually want to get your feet wet and show how you’ve “done your research,” then my invitation to discussion on /mlpol/ threads is still open. People moan about “politics in the comments” because comment chains aren’t meant for political bickering.

[bg]If the mods want to come and remove my comments because I have opinions about the subject matter they are free to do so at any time. Until that time, I think I’ll continue sitting here and being smug. :)

That’s a rather dickish attitude, “I can be rude up to the point that I start getting censored and then I’ll stop.” At the very least you’re just pushing extra work onto the mods to review your comments. I’d much rather that your comments not be removed at all because we ought to be mature enough to discuss without blocking the other side–as mature as being on a website chock full of porn of ponies from a kid’s show allows.

For bystanders reading this, I invite you to learn what you want about from mises.org rather than from random commenters on said booru chock full of pony porn.

Who is being smug here?

And yes, that is a strawman because you made no effort to present an opposing viewpoint fairly.

“If X can be privatized, then why not Y?” […] you merely assume that some goods and services are fundamentally different from others. It’s the “public goods” myth.

Either actually do your research

or simply say you disagree with libertarian thought

“debunking” a strawman is cringeworthy.

why are you making such a fuss over an ancap picture and downvoting it?

If you don’t like it then ignore it: that’s the policy for this site.

@Background Pony #0566

why are you making such a fuss over an ancap picture and downvoting it? If you don’t like it then ignore it: that’s the policy for this site.

my guy, you can’t jump to “why are you making such a big deal out of this?” in the same reply with half a page of lolbertarian kool-aid because a comment made a point you didn’t like