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Meghan McCarthy, Ishi Rudell, and Katrina Hadley discussing how they handled Timber’s interactions with Twilight from the Legend of Everfree official commentary.

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Background Pony #D800
@Angrybrony
You’re one to talk. You don’t even believe in anything. Flash Sentry is way better and more deserving to sci twi than timber spruce
Background Pony #26A2
Oh wow lil nothing moments that still show he has no chemistry with her…really showed me? Also doesn’t make disprove the whole “went after her when twi was off the table” thing.
That’s ‘cause the show got canceled before they got a third season; they were going to explore what happened to human!Sunset. And there was less reasons for dumber ships. I don’t see any counterpoints.
Bro this is BASIC WRITING STUFF 101
I’m going to hazard a guess and say you watch a lot of anime, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, played Undertale, and frequent TV Tropes, right?
Flash does have flaws and an arc; you just don’t like ‘em. We literally see him act differently in the third movie, mad in the shorts and even depressed. It’s like with Sandbar. Simple isn’t bad; it’s just that people seem to think characters need to be sadboys with 300 pages of wangs to be interesting. He isn’t even simple; he shows more range than most males on the original show—but ‘cause he’s Flash, it doesn’t count.
@Background Pony #FEC6
We can safely say the only reason he didn’t do that in the movie is because he didn’t have the glasses ready.
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🔥Sunset is best girl🔥
@Background Pony #26A2
Oh wow lil nothing moments that still show he has no chemistry with her…really showed me? Also doesn’t make disprove the whole “went after her when twi was off the table” thing.
I think you’re confusing the word “flaws” with “mental health issues.”
Bro this is BASIC WRITING STUFF 101 do you not know what an example is? Giving somebody character a few flaws helps them feel real.
Take sunset for example, she was smart, heroic but can have a bit of temper and jumps the gun a few times in the movies and started out as the standard queen bitch of the school in first movie.
It gives her conflict, personality, life. You can put her in synarios and have her bonce of characters and the like for entertaining interaction and sitchuations and arcs for her character. Flash has nothing. He is nice guy who plays guitar in the first movie and in the last he is nice guy that plays guitar…that’s it.
Background Pony #26A2
even tho sunset never even showed any interest.
He needed to you know…be interesting beyond being cool and nice guy that plays guitar.
Most of the personalities of background/secondary characters is from fans projecting/making it up. When asked what personality any of the other male characters have, all bronies do is list the things they did, as if that’s a personality, which it isn’t.
Face it: Flash could turn Super Saiyan and blast a hole into the sun, and no one would care because pony!Twilight likes him and not the other Mane 6/their OC, end of story. He does have a personality and he quite obviously has flaws and even an arc; it’s just that he doesn’t have one bronies like because he’s not written for bronies.
Flash is never flawed in that way at all.

I think you’re confusing the word “flaws” with “mental health issues.”
Atleast timber got to show he was a bit goofy
Yeah, Timber is pretty cool. He was way funnier in the bloopers; I wish they had some way to put those in the actual movie somehow. At least we got those shorts with him, too.
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🔥Sunset is best girl🔥
@Background Pony #FEC6
Exactly.
He a lil goofy silly guy but also he has a reason to be in the movie, his family were the ones running the camp, he was the red haring for the mystery and he also helps his sister run the camp, we even see him try and take an ax to the vine walls his sister put, it’s nothing much but it’s more then flash
Who…bumped into twi in the hallway and…was a dick to her in the hallway in the second movie and bubkis in 3.
Background Pony #FEC6
@Angrybrony
Not only was Timber goofy, but he was also a dork. The guy told terrible jokes and pickup lines, and Legend of Everfree made it aware that the stuff he says is cheesy based on the reactions he gets from Gloriosa and Sci-Twi. Even he knows that he says stupid stuff. This allows you to find him likable because he has no problem with being silly or being the butt of a joke. Not only does that give him charm, but it easily gives him more personality than Flash has had in the last three movies.
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@Angrybrony
Isn’t he over both Twilights and hanging out with Sunset more anyway?
Yeah the girl he broke of with and started following around like a puppy on leash once twi wasn’t an option even tho sunset never even showed any interest.
@Background Pony #FEC6
Fans hated him even before he spoke word (even gave him a nickname), and it was for incredibly stupid reasons that had nothing at all to do with Flash; it was because they had shipped Twilight with women, and it broke their brains. Flash never had a chance, especially since he was a genuinely good guy and not a super awesome abusive nerd OC.
That’s a part of it but it’s not like he gained any traction afterwords. He needed to you know…be interesting beyond being cool and nice guy that plays guitar.
Take Jesse from infinity train for instense sure you could say his a nice guy that gets along with anybody but he’s also pushover that wants everyone to like him so bad he gets his lil bro hurt. He has flaws. There’s something more to him.
Flash is never flawed in that way at all. it’s just “oh look sad he is at not getting the girl 😢😢😢.”
Atleast timber got to show he was a bit goofy and if I was going to even include the date short I’m not because he had chemistry with scitwi because LOE already showed he has chemistry with scitwi right away.
Background Pony #26A2
@Background Pony #D800
Not as funny as Spongebob? Thank goodness! You do know that he’s supposed to be a total loser, right? Like, that’s the joke?
@Background Pony #FEC6
Fans hated him even before he spoke word (even gave him a nickname), and it was for incredibly stupid reasons that had nothing at all to do with Flash; it was because they had shipped Twilight with women, and it broke their brains. Flash never had a chance, especially since he was a genuinely good guy and not a super awesome abusive nerd OC.
@Angrybrony
Which Flash was OK with and he still helped Twilight despite it not helping him “win” the girl. This isn’t a “who is better” thing, but a “why bronies hate an actual good person;” they want their OC who eats puppies but has a good heart to be Twilight’s boyfriend instead, and it’s so obvious. Well, that, or a girl.
@Angrybrony
Shorts are canon, though.
@Angrybrony
Isn’t he over both Twilights and hanging out with Sunset more anyway?
@Background Pony #D800
Yeah, the show got canceled when G4 ended.
Background Pony #FEC6
@Background Pony #D800
So your point is that romantic love should only ever come conditionally, meaning that unless you’re convenient like in battle for example, then you don’t deserve to be loved. That’s pretty sad, and just flat out wrong. Timber doesn’t have to prove himself like Sci-Twi is some kind of prize he has to win. They hit it off because they had mutual interests and enjoyed each other’s company, and that led to them developing a romantic relationship they wanted to have.
By the way, there’s no such thing as a “perfect choice.” Even the best of couples will have their bad qualities that cause conflict with each other.
Background Pony #D800
@Angrybrony
Did u miss the part where flash threw himself to help the girls out in cheer you on? That scratches he received proves hes more chivalrous, cooler and better than timber ever will be and has done alot more than what timber did. All timber did was pick up and axe and tried to cut the vine to no avail. This wouldn’t have happened if timber just told the girls what was happening to his sister. That makes him a terrible character and not the perfect choice for sci twi
Background Pony #D800
Flash doesn’t brag about his personality, hes there clear the names who have been blamed for something they had not done and will put his life at risk in order to help out and save others, unlike timber who would rather cower behind sci twi and use her as a shield. Worst part is, he did nothing to save his sister and instead covered up for her. Thats what make flash better than timber and thats why sci twi should be with flash instead of timber@Angrybrony
Background Pony #FEC6
@Angrybrony
All I ever saw Flash was just as a flat nice guy who plays a guitar and nothing else. I’m not sure how using the word “Chivalry” is gonna make him look more interesting because it doesn’t.