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“The original concept was brought the me and Hasbro said ‘We’re interested in kind of having this as an idea, what can you do to flesh this out into a story and make it into a movie?’ and that’s what I did.”- Meghan McCarthy.
While Lauren Faust may have created Friendship is Magic, My Little Pony as a brand belongs to Hasbro. Despite being conceptualized and designed by Faust, the characters belong to Hasbro.
At the end of the day, it was Hasbro’s decisions that mattered, not Lauren’s or Meghan’s. The Mane 6 are Hasbro’s characters, and even though the writers of the show have an influence on how they develop as characters, Hasbro has the final say.
It’s fine that, judging from the previews and from what your friends have said, you don’t have any interest in the movie and think it sounds weak. The only reason I have any interest in it is that I expect the DHX staff to at least get the personalities right, which would (to me) make it at worst a forgettable 70-minute lark.
I don’t think it’s fair to slam Meghan McCarthy as being a “drone” without integrity, though. You don’t know the situation behind season 3 or EqG; you don’t know how much latitude she was given and how much Hasbro insisted had to be in the show and the movie.
And while there are many, many ideas that would be better for a movie than “humanized” ponies in a high school setting, Hasbro certainly wanted just that premise to launch their toy line. If you want to argue that DHX could have made a better movie, you’ve got to start with that premise, not with some brony-centered fantasy-adventure premise.
Other than the fact that you linked the Nostalgia Critic, who I really do not like because of his lack of objectivity or composure (His style, not the person, because I have not met him face to face), I have no idea why you’re referring me to him.
I’m commenting on my feelings on the movie, and to people who like it, fair play to them. I’m just going by experience from a bunch of dudes I loved hanging out with and they gave me their two cents, and since I don’t doubt their integrity, am probably going to end up agreeing with.
Did you watch GI Joe: Retaliation? Or even That’s My Boy by Adam Sandler? You can read a premise of the plots on wikipedia and get a gist of what’s going on; if you can say you did not enjoy the movie’s premise, why would you want to see a movie? All I’m saying is EQG’s pitch is very shot, and if you agree or disagree, am welcome to elaborate on your reasons.
We’re all reasonable people and we all have opinions. No need to post childish videos to insinuate or imply a lower level of intelligence without typing/saying your own words yourself.
http://youtu.be/mm8xRvoQkc0
I’m not bitching. Some of my friends in the states drove about twenty or something miles to catch it and they were bored. I facebooked ‘em about any redeeming qualities, but after about four hours of discussions they chalked it up to being on par with GI Joe: Retaliation in entertainment value and was boring, in comparison to, say, an episode of the show.
Also, I’m saying the pitch for EQG sounds bad. Anyone with a market chart knows who watches which shows knows most of the shows watched by the females between the ages of 10-15 are shunted to a collective of Glee, The Voice, TLF (I don’t know how it’s spelled or acronym-ed; it’s a show about how teen stars live their lives or something).
Also, @Beau Skunky
I should reiterate that last one. The background would be the “greater evil that would shatter and become sealed in the moon and whose smaller evil became Nightmare Moon” would be the main baddie. You know, as a reference to Aku’s origin.
To go into more depth, that idea of going back in time, and defeating/destroying the Nightmare Moon entity before it possesses Luna sounds terrible, pointless, and contradictory because the Nightmare Moon incident is what brought the “mane 6” together, so if they undid that event, they wouldn’t be friends, and such. I don’t see any reason to see why the Mane 6 would even feel the need to do that event in the first place either, especially with Nightmare Moon already defeated, and such.
Waitwaitwait! Let me get this straight, you are bitching about something you have not personally watched yet?
Fair enough. May I request your feedback as to why?
To be honest, I actually those movie ideas sound worse.
Meghan works for DHX and Hasbro’s the whipmaster. As long as she gets paid she’s not going to have any fucking integrity.
I actually thought better of her. I thought, no, believed she was going to be the J Michael Straczynski of this show. Nope: she’s just a drone.
I’ve read better MLP-pitched movies on FACEBOOK better than the premise of the story, which, from my friends in the US said was boring. I don’t mind humanizations, even if I don’t like the designs, but God, the story, from my base-to-base description from my buds, was not engaging at all. One of them even suggested Dexter’s Ego Trip would be a better use of my 70 minutes dedicated to seeing this movie.
On topic: Movie ideas instead of EQG.
>Celestia and Luna reunite with previous EOH crew to combat evil. Fails because they’re no longer friends even if they’re all-powerful and it’s up to the gang to bring these super-powered dudes and dudettes together.
>MLP but with Thor conventions.
>Twilight and Spike travelling back in time and teaming up with Starswirl the Bearded to combat Nightmare Moon-before-possessing-Luna.
90 minutes better spent. Besides, 10-14 year old girls don’t watch cartoons, anyway (most of them, at least). They look at Kim Kardashian and Nicki Minaj and try to be the next fashion drone.
This might be one of those classic situations where we as a community overreacted a little.
“I warned you! I warned you! But did you listen to me? Oh, no, you knew it all, didn’t you? Oh, MLP is Ruined FOREVER, isn’t it? Well, it’s always the same, I always tell them but do they listen to me? Oh, no…”
So I’ve seen this team make interesting and worthwhile things out of sleepover plots, fashion show plots, wedding plots, becoming-a-princess plots, and now even human high school plots. What CAN’T these guys do?
Oh, and thanks for overall touching upon Twilight’s new status theme throughout the movie, Meghan McCarthy. Glad I didn’t have to wait half a year longer to see some of it. )))
@Amber
McCarthy IS a liar! So many people say it, and they know better! Which means that Flash is in S4… while Rarity and Spike aren’t. XDDD
Hasbro has a harebrained merchandise push, says “what can you do with this?” and then the creativity begins.
Yeah, it does mean we get some stereotypical subjects matter, but if this has proven anything with me (or confirmed it, as I’ve had my suspicions for a while) it’s that these guys know how to take a dumbass premise, turn it on its head, and make it at LEAST entertaining.
And in a way, I bet it feels like a good challenge for the writing staff. Some of the best movie and game ideas have sprung up around the creative team having strict limitations, and then molding their creation to use those limitations to its advantage.
The best example I have of this is the Silent Hill games, in which originally an aggressively small draw-distance on the PS1 meant they couldn’t fully render the environment without forcing distance fog.
The writers and devs then took the fog, and made it an essential, integral part of Silent Hill’s mythos. That, my friends, is how genius ideas are born.
I actually wish the show had more references to the toys than it already does, which is only vague similarities. I mean like, for example, G1 had Fluitter Pony toys, and stuck them as characters in a small movie, new characters got rotated in and out as new pony toys got released, Twinkle eyed ponies had their unique eyes in the show, even some commercials had animation that looked vaguely similar to the show’s animation, and the playsets were even in the show and movies, especilly the Dream Castle, Paradise Estate, and Satin Slipper Sweep Shoppe, and probably more. Had it gone on longer, we’d have been more gimmick ponies show up.
FiM has the mane 6, princesses, shining armor, cherrilee, and the CMC as continually released toys, hard to tell if Twilight’s balloon was first conceived as a toy or show element, twilicorn, obviously, and, that seems to be about it. Oh, the train too. But that’s really it. WOuld be nice to see more references, even vague ones, I dunno how it would be done, but it would be cooler to see. Granted, G4 toys have less gimmicks and anything special like the G1 toys had that made them really fit in to the animation.
This is how we got FiM in the first place. I haven’t seen EQG yet (damn you Hasbro for not releasing it on the Internet ’till august!) but i am not surprised by the reviews it seems to get. Meghan is a good writer so it would reflect on the movie. She is just not as good at developing an ideas as Lauren is.
Are you a bot?
You never go full retard.
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@Takashi.0
eh, I didn’t care for it at all, really. It turned out to be ‘standard high school nonsense’ for just far too long. Would have bumped everything from the previews to the first 30mins myself to prevent Shimmer from looking as useless as NMM.
Actually some little girls didn’t like it either. They laughed at Twilight acting like hoers, but when it came to ‘burrraaaad’ and the other mane six I heard them say “Why are they copying Teen Nick?” Those same girls also thought Shimmer should have been the hero though so they might not be the intended audience either.
What I wish is that people could lay down with the whole “McCarthy is a liar”.
It was clear as crystal this was Hasbro’s idea from the beginning.
Most of the people I know who claimed to have seen it (and are not on /mlp/) say that it’s mostly pretty good, or at the very least not bad.
Instead of wondering whether we’ve overreacted to this, I think it’s better to ask “when do we ever NOT overreact?”