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Eh, I agree with you there.
There’s a strong basis for it being egalitarian, as has been mentioned in the thread. The only evidence for a matriarchy seems to be that there are females in charge, but there’s nothing overtly saying it has to be females in charge.
For me its quite of sort of a real issue because my family tells me stories of this exact same thing being done to justify the murder of thousands of “political agitators” as young as 11, amongst more horrific things. When a group uses language as a political tool, its invariably to hunt down or otherwise fool reasonable individuals into following crazy schemes they would have never followed before.
It’s disgusting and everyone who does it gets nothing from me but vile.
@Heroine Addict
Seems like more vapid wordplay to me, but suit yourself,
I suppose you have a point there, although you do use relatively little evidence. Perhaps the phrase “patriarchal influence” would be considered more suitable.
Now, I will leave you alone. This little debate is tiring.
Nice job. Never heard someone explain it as well as that.
Certain groups are trying to change the definitions of words in a really, really creepy way, to suit their political agendas. That’s undeniable.
The slippery slope is only a fallacy if one conclusin is derived from another without evidence linking them.
Or, that’s to say, the slippery slope fallacy is the refuge of those who do not like the logical connection between statements. You can look up all the phrases I mentioned and find those alternative “definitions” to those phrases, and notice how the argument “oh, patriarchy doesn’t mean what you think it means despite us using the meaning you are thinking” is the same exact for all.
To claim that those previous phrases are somehow not equivalent to people speaking of the patriarchy as an active attempt at oppressing people and then cliaming that’s not it all is disingenous.
That is an instance of the slippery slope fallacy. Having a different interpretation of a concept is not the same as pretending something is something else.
No, its an observation of how claiming you are using one word but meaning something else is both disingenuous, dangerous, and ultimately morally bankrupt.
I am not trying to be manipulative. I am simply pointing out that you are attacking a position that this person doesn’t actually hold, also known as a strawman. If you’re going to argue, at least argue with the statements given rather than twisting peoples’ words.
Well, you better star believing in newspeak manipulations of language, you are currently using it.
I don’t believe any such things were ever said here.
Ah, so you are of the group that says “die all men” doesn’t mean they want all men to die, just the idea of men to die; or that “only white people can be racist” doesn’t mean that only white people can be racist, but that the institution of whiteness is inherently racist; or all the other newspeak level of language dissonance.
But if they do use the word patriarchy, how is someone supposed to make over $200,000 in coned donation money and be given an award in journalism without doing a god damn thing!?
IIRC, “patriarchy” refers to the lingering culture of “man = provider, woman = caretaker” that still exists as a remnant of when we were an actual patriarchal society.
It’s a bit of a misnomer, since when people hear it they think of a society where women have none of the freedoms they do today. If feminists used a different word, maybe they’d be taken more seriously.
I kind of doubt it though, since people tend to have a strong aversion to discussions of sexism regardless of whether or not the people bringing it up are extremists.
@Background Pony #EA95
And this is why feminism is a joke.
crocelifis the artist. Let’s see:Hmm yeah let’s go with that “via” link, shall we?
ohey look, the actual source would then be http://dash-crushing-the-patriarchy-de.tumblr.com/post/85144063165 which is of course dead.
Hell, the link is even there in the first image. Oh and also, one look at the artist tag gives quite a different style indeed. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but whoa putting in the correct tumblr links sure must be difficult.
I’m pretty confident their society is egalitarian. It just seems more fitting. I can’t personally see it as an actual matriarchy.
But there’s not much to be said there other than your personal headcanon, as we don’t know squat about Equestria’s culture. Anyone who claims they have a certain answer on this matter is deluding themselves.
Again, the sex of the clothing designer means nothing. Saying a man can’t design a woman’s outfit is like saying a woman can’t design a man’s outfit. It’s a shockingly sexist and antiquated view.
It’s not like women are these mindless drones who are like “must… buy… clothes…” Most women have the inherent sense to just see an outfit and A) not care if a he/she/it designed it and B) buy something on the grounds that they just like the look of it, not because they’ve been hypnotized by The Patriots.
And where do you buy your clothes to begin with? I live in a small town, with one mall. They have two clothing stores, one for men and one for women. The women’s store has everything from sexy to professional to clothes that are basically men’s styles tailored to fit a woman’s physique. I’m gay for clothes; me and my sister go clothes shopping once a week. She’s never had a problem finding an outfit that wasn’t designed to sexualize her.
S if its not a blind choice (aka, the information is not colouring the decisions of the participants) its fair to say its irrelevant, thus we can dismiss your whole line of argumentation. Thank you for saving time.
That does not in any way address my point about the limited selection of non-sexualized clothing for women. After all, you have far more options than just leather jackets.
@Background Pony #C0ED
It is not necessarily a conscious choice. Women do not magically know the sexes of the manufacturers/designers they buy, nor can they always find alternative suppliers who sell different varieties of clothing.
My point remains entirely valid. I wear a leather jacket to look cool. It doesn’t matter if a man, a woman, King Sombra, or Buzz Lightyear was the one who designed it.
So wait, women decide to buy more from group Y, so therefore its group Y fault and not groups X, because women would clearly prefer group X is they weren’t… doing woobly, woobly things to make them like group Y better.
This only keeps getting better with the tenets and ideals of the sexual revolution, mind you.