If a pegasus can become an alicorn in the show, she’s probably the top candidate. The amount of energy she can generate is definitely above average. Celestia isn’t ruled out as her mother, nor is the possibility that she became an alicorn as filly but had it locked/sealed away by Celestia. Especially if you consider how Fluttershy didn’t seem to know what happened with the race and it was still a ‘myth’ until she saved Rarity. -weehawk
@CronoM
Its a running theory everywhere now that RD is more important then what we think and that she does have as much Magic power if not more then Twilight.
People mostly don’t see it because its not shown the same way. While Unicorn’s magic is shown concretely. Pegasus and Earth Ponies is more passively.
Also for Cadence she got her cutie mark AND Alicorn Hood on her won when she was a filly, its why in the flashback she was already and Alicorn And she got both by being able to manipulate Love even as a Pegasus.
So it is not impossible for RD to be the next Alicorn if any of the other Mane 6 ever goes to Alicorn ground.
She is after all the reason why everyone of the mane six got their cutie mark and talent and even All that Magic power to Twilight…
And probably that weird Quirky Magic that Rarity have. Along with Pinkie’s strange power and all that.
@CronoM
Well the way I look at it with Scoots and the missing family ties with her or any of the other 3. No news is Good news. Yes, I’m assuming there’s a lot of background stuff we don’t see.
Here’s just one example. When did the Mane 6 Minus Pinkie Pie plan Pinkie Pie’s birthday? That was off screen.
The only one who I think has a possiblity of not having living parents is AJ. The only reason is because of just how close her extended family is so there’s a huge doubt that she’d have no parents visible before now unless something major happened.
Fluttershy was shocked that it was the same day but when did she find out? Besides, she was at a summer flight camp. There would be no way in Hades that the camp counselors wouldn’t go down to the ground and find Fluttershy. Especially after that earth shattering boom. I wouldn’t doubt that all of Cloudsdale felt that one and probably had some emergency crews all over.
So as far as I’m concerned, until the show states otherwise, Dashie, Scoots and Fluttershy all have happy families and why we don’t see Dash and Fluttershy’s family because they’re in another town that’s rarely visited.
The source of Dashie’s trauma I never really cared for as to why she couldn’t do it again after the first time. Maybe she over thought it maybe she failed to do it a few more times while showing off. Who knows?
AND one more thing about the Luna dream moments. Sweetie Belle was crying for help and Luna responded to her cries helping her out. Scoots was out right freaking out and having night mares. When scared everyone puts up mental barriers and it took a bit of effort for Luna to even reach her. Luna probably could have “breached” the mental barrier easily but not without doing something that would make the nightmare scarier.
@Master Fox
Making a LOOOOT of assumptions to make an overly optimistic headcanon based on nothing. One would think with a society with pureness and magic would have Scootaloo flying in a jiffy, but things like that don’t always happen.
Personally I’ve thought there might be a bit more to Scootaloo’s story then meets the eye since S3. Scootaloo touched an invisible ‘mental barrier’ that prevented Luna from coming close to her memories, something Sweetie Belle did not have at all. I never figured what to make of that…Some guesses, but almost nothing solid. Not worth mentioning
“Then there’s the fact they only made Dashie’s father later on.”
Yes. In a flashback. With Rainbow Dash having tears in her eyes, and projecting her memories as overly painful…
…you can see how when its actually said outloud, them introducing the father this way is pretty damning on the whole ‘both her parents are perfectly fine in the background’ idea :/
Also, its thematically cemented into trope histroy that they both are likely orphans after Sleepless in Ponyville. Badass older bro/sis adopts insecure but brave and smart younger bro/sis? Not blood relatives?
Kamina and Simon from TTGL? Dick Grayson and Tim Drake in the Batman comics? Gene Starwind and Jim Hawkins from Outlaw Star?
Its quite a loaded trope with a lot of history. The only inversion of this trope is its between two very alpha girls.
Your 4th paragraph is pretty interesting. I’ve actually always been a fan of the psychological barrier theory for RD’s need to retrain.
But where you got it wrong was it has to be a lot thicker then mere childhood clumsiness if saving a friend could not unlock it, but just tap into the breaking point of the strength she THOUGHT she had. It was a lot easier and bigger when she was a child. (Although RD is far more skilled an athlete now, obviously)
Take Superman for example, and to be exact, only Paul Dini’s Superman. ‘World made out of cardboard’ speech. Actually earlier then that, it took a ton of effort for Superman to beat Braniac the first time he met as an adult, but when a superadvanced Braniac from the future tried to kill teenage Clark Kent and nearly killed his parents, Clark demolished him since he had far less psychological restraints.
Overwhelming unnatural strength? The fear of being treated like a freak? Only a few of the kids saw her directly do it, how would the other pegasi feel if a mere child claimed she created a legendary Sonic Rainboom blast that could LITERALLY shake Equestria?
There’s your trauma.
I’m talking about it happening more naturally then Starswirled’s artificial spell. If RD’s energy is connected to the Rainbow of Light/Elements of Harmony, which all evidence points to, that leaves a whole mess of implications and possibilities. DHX and Katie Cook did seem to think Rainbow Dash was the only one of the six strong enough to fight someone as strong as Celestia even as just a pegasi.
This is theoretical of course. If RD had to choose between a life as an alicorn princess and a life as a pegasi, well, RD gave her answer in the first episode of S4.
“Fluttershy went back to Cloudsdale after she was on the ground for the first time. She had to go cause She knew RD got her cutie mark then.”
Uhh, no she didn’t. While I don’t doubt she’s been back to Cloudsdale several times before the events of S1, she outright stated that she was shocked at learning it was the same day.
Basically, we know WAAAAY too little about Fluttershy most of all. We can’t determine a thing about her origins, we just don’t have enough to go on.
@OneOverTwo
“To be honest, the fact that the pegasus parents are seen the least is probably a huge coincidence.”
I don’t doubt that. It has to do with ‘the main 3 pegasi’ just happen to be familially distant. The ‘pegasi-spartan’ fan-theory felt way too unlikely.
“They’re probably tight lipped ’bout the pegasus parent thing in case they want to use them in an episode &/or haven’t actually decided what to do with them yet.”
There’s only so long one can go with characters while pretending parents don’t exist. Its S5 already. Compared to parents, introducing older siblings are easy writing-wise(Maud Pie, Shining Armor). While Rainbow Dash and Scootaloo are far more likely to not know any living parents, Fluttershy is a bit of a mystery and I would wager they WILL address her parents in S5.
@CronoM
Well I never believed the whole Scootaloo is an orphan bit from the start. While I can understand there’s no such thing as a perfect society in reality in cartoons well hell, someone will take care of her that’s family.
She’s either got very busy parents, or only 1 parent who she doesn’t spend enough time with. Heck, maybe her mom or dad is an earth pony like the cakes. She could have been a random chance birth.
Then there’s RD’s and Fluttershy’s Families. The only reason we’ve even seen Rarity’s parents more then once [or at all] is because hey they live in town. Dashie’s family could have easily been in the crowd cheering her on. She could have met her father and mother afterwards. There’s a lot of off screen moments that happen between episodes and within episodes. Then there’s the fact they only made Dashie’s father later on.
As for the sonic rainboom. It’s as simple as growing up creating a psycological limiter there. When I was a kid, I was an idiot. I’d run every where and get hurt alot. Now I’m an adult and more reserved. Maybe Rainbow Dash crashed enough times since becoming an adult and dealt with enough Emotional and Psychological issues that prevented her from just going All out top speed.
We’ve seen her deal with those issues before where she just collapses and loses it. Am I saying she’s less powerful now as an adult no. Am I saying she’s more powerful then your standard pegasi, yes.
But the point still comes down to it. She has no talent for magic in the way required to cast a spell. Making the whole she can become an alicorn because she’s powerful moot. Second it uses the elements of harmony and look where they went just after twilight got her wings?
Lastly! Fluttershy went back to Cloudsdale after she was on the ground for the first time. She had to go cause She knew RD got her cutie mark then. So maybe some point in her life she moved down to Ponyville to be with animals and the ground. Over time she built up her home and life there.
@CronoM
They’re probably tight lipped ‘bout the pegasus parent thing in case they want to use them in an episode &/or haven’t actually decided what to do with them yet.
To be honest, the fact that the pegasus parents are seen the least is probably a huge coincidence.
No, her mane does not become ethereal when traveling at hypersonic speeds. It leaves a trail, but it only becomes ehtereal when she has absolutely ungodly power, like creating a Sonic Rainboom 10x bigger then any one she created in the present or becoming a super rainbow power Rainbow Dash.
How was she traveling fast enough to make a Sonic Rainboom at that age? The trail from the tail seems to be a trademark of exceptionally powerful pegasi, and momentarily Twilight was one, even though her pegasi affinity as an alicorn is low, in contrast to someone like Luna.
The Sonic Rainboom was confirmed to have been that huge by the other 5. The entire backstory of the show for the 6 hinged upon that one event.
You didn’t read my prior comment to Ponypon. I was listing minor details along with the major ones, and the minor details can be just coincidence.
No, origin-wise it does not make sense to me. Fluttershy supposedly lived in the forest for ages, with no mention of her parents. Rainbow Dash’s dad was shown alone in her one flashback, and unlike Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash had a LOT of public events for pegasi where he could of appeared to cheer her on, starting with the Young Flyers Competition. There is no evidence that Rainbow Dash knows her mother, and she fits the profile as single father raised perfectly. Scootaloo outright stated she wanted to be Dash’s adoptive sister, and we haven’t seen Scootaloo’s parents even when they showed her her room. That flag waving event would of been a perfect time to introduce Scootaloo’s parents if she had them in Ponyville. All evidence points to her living in an orphanage.
Nothing on the pegasi have been elaborated. With AJ we are given enough hints and official tweets to know AJ’s parents are dead, but with RD, Fluttershy and Scootaloo, we are never given any answers. And unlike Applejack, they staff have been tight-lipped about it.
@CronoM
I’m reading back on the argument and honestly some of it I’m not sure makes sense.
You claim Dashie’s mane becomes Ethereal when she was flying at hyper sonic speeds. That I’m assuming is what your getting at. There’s 2 reasons it may not be exactly as described and it may just be a visual thing.
A - She was traveling so fast it could have just looked like it. She leaves a trail behind her every where she goes at speed.
B - It was a story told to the girls. They could have imagined how it looked and RD is good at exaggerating her awesomeness.
Either way yes the sonic Rainboom and rainbow trail was what caused her friends to discover their gifts. Animal Communication, Parties, A love for home, jewels and magic. That doesn’t skip to dash being Celestia’s child. She can’t be Luna’s for obvious reasons.
Second, twilight when she was first given the powers and she didn’t get a handle on it, she had the flowing mane. Luna and Twilight are special in that they have FAR more magic in them then standard alicorns. Look at just the idea of moving the moon or the Sun. They do it with so little effort while Twilight who struggled moving it properly did it with ease with their power.
Yes, Zecora did say that with training Twilight could surpass the powers given by the Alicorn Amulet. She’s never said that about another unicorn. Twilight is gifted with a huge source of magic and is still just learning to control it. That much is obvious.
Now looking back to Why there are so little background information on Fluttershy or Rainbow Dash it makes sense. Look at the Mane 6’s family and what town’s they can easily visit.
Twilight’s Family is a Canterlot Family [royal by now] and very well off for living in the capital.
Pinkie Pie and Apple Jack are from Local farms. One is a founding farm of the Village.
Rarity’s whole family live in ponyville as we’ve seen by her family around.
Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash are both from Cloudsdale. We can’t ignore the fact that aside from using a cloud walking spell or fake wing spell the other 3 can’t even visit that place under normal circumstances. They just don’t get a chance to address it or need to.
Lastly I’m just going to go over the small list of things you brought up a few posts ago.
Rainbow Dash was wanting to be a wonderbolt for ages. She just helped AJ on the side cause she wasn’t busy.
Rainbow Dash’s eyes glowing in that one scene from the comicbook is because she was a super hero in that scene. Did you forget that fluttershy hulked out, or Pinkie pie faster then normal. Or rarity’s whole Purple Lantern style of working? The comic book episode can’t help your argument at all especially since she has no power without that necklace.
@CronoM
Whoever said Rainbow Dash was a farm pony? & even if she was, that doesn’t mean she used ‘earth pony magic’. She could’ve just done chores unrelated to planting.
& I was trying to say that they didn’t go out of their way to not show her mother.
Also, I don’t know… Apple Bloom seemed to affect a cloud with her emotions once maybe.
@PonyPon
I’m not an idiot Ponypon, I know when a few pieces of data I listed are easily just coincidense.
It doesn’t effect the bigger, more relevant stuff.
Its not just RD, every pegasi main charachter has been under utilized in background, explanation and origin. You’d think that would be a relevant thing to touch upon by the 4th season.
In other words, we have way to many questions then answers, and the obvious answers are becoming increasingly disturbing…like the whole disturbing tri-relationship between Spike and Twilight, and Twilight and Celestia. As a writer, I am baffled by a few of the show’s undertones and how it is disturbing isn’t obvious to them.
@OneOverTwo
So they’d intentionally introduce Rainbow Dash’s father in flashback yet intentionally not include the mother? That’s rather curious don’t you think?
RD used to be a farm pony on the side of being a weather pony in Ponyville until RD increased her training for the Wonderbolts. This was mentioned in the third episode, Ticket Master. We never gave it much thought until Tirek confirmed its, in show, an ability exclusive to earth ponies. Celestia and Luna according to the creators, have the natural strongest gifts of all three tribes, unlike Cadense and Twilight.
No pegasi or unicorn can have their eyes glow white on their own or just turn a cloud dark with just bad vibes or getting angry. Those are abilities exclusive to Celestia and Luna. What a coincidence.
There is only one explanation that fits the entire plot of the show, RD’s abilities and the connection to the elements of harmony all at once, and its staring at us right in the face.
Do you recognize RD’s cutie mark? What does it, and Cloudsdale visually, have in common with a rather well known disney movie?
@CronoM
What other race’d be able to darken clouds by giving off bad vibes? (If any of the others it’d be earth ponies considering the dark cloud over Apple Bloom in Call of the Cutie).
& how did she harvest the land? I don’t remember that… if it’s just taking food off of a plant or something probably anyone can do that. I’m pretty sure it’s earth pony only only when raising the plant.
The Sonic Rainboom was also considered myth so no one should’ve been able to do it.
& I don’t think her beginnings & mother are left intentionally unknown so much as it’s just not something that’d come up often/isn’t that important.
@OneOverTwo
All I remember is Rainbow Dash saying was ‘it was a long time ago I was just a filly’. Even it is true, Rainbow Dash herself didn’t seem very confident about the reason why she couldn’t do it again, and the explanation makes no sense.
Rainbow Dash’s eyes and muscles were burning with effort to reach that extreme speed to save Rarity. It got easier to do one over time and training, but Filly Rainbow Dash created a Sonic Rainboom that could be seen from all over Equestria.
No matter how you look at it, a pegasi filly should NOT have been able to do that….
…of course…
…we don’t know anything about Rainbow Dash do we? Her beginnings, her mother, was left intentionally as unknown.
If RD’s mane can turn ethereal…then what does that say about the “pegasi” named Rainbow Dash? Last I checked, pegasi can’t harvest the land(ep3) and they can’t darken clouds just by giving off bad vibes. I thought having all 3 tribe’s gifts was more Luna and Celestia’s shtick?
@CronoM
I thought the reason she needed to retrain in how to do the Sonic Rainboom was because she did it on accident/by fluke the first time & couldn’t figure out how to do it again.
Your two points stand as possible reasons why ALL the 6 can’t just become alicorns, but they give absolutely no explanation about why Rainbow Dash couldn’t become an alicorn.
Rainbow Dash may not be the Element of Magic, but Rainbow Dash is not only the Element of Loyalty, she is the restorer of Harmony. The one who started it all
Without Rainbow Dash’s power, the elements of harmony would not exist in any of them.
Raw magic has absolutely nothing to do with the elements of harmony. To put it more accurately, unicorn and even alicorn magic is completely subservient to the magic of harmony. It might as well be the power of pure creation. While it is true that Twilight holds a great amount of unicorn magic in her body, in fact Zecora said that with proper training her OWN unicorn powers could rival the power of the alicorn amulet, they have noted many times in the show and comics she can’t handle its full power as a unicorn or an alicorn, and it will often go out of control. In other words, pure raw POWER and the ability to control it might actually be a better measure for who could become an alicorn.
Going back from point 1, Rainbow Dash has some unusual connections to both the sisters(who could use the elements) and the true elements of harmony. Not only was she the person who created the destinies of the 6 elements of harmony with an impossibly massive Sonic Rainboom while just a filly, when she did it her hair became flowing and ethereal like Celestia and Luna’s.
Some believed it was just a one time thing, but the most recent episode proved otherwise. Rainbow Dash has always had a simple energy trail for her tail since that day, a near equal named Lightning Dust was capable of that as well….but when Twilight took in all the energy of the alicorns, including Celestia and Luna, not only was she only able to create an energy trail with her tail for maybe 5 seconds during her fight, her hair did NOT become ethereal.
In contrast, when the Rainbow of Light merged with the six, while the power and new forms merely made the other 5’s hair flowing, Rainbow Dash’s new form not only looked hyper charged compared to the others, but her hair became like energy for the second time in her life. >>649028
We still have not been given a real explanation for why RD needed to retrain for a decade just to learn how to do a regular sized Sonic Rainboom. Perhaps her true power was locked away or dissipated to create all of their destinies? One might consider the time between Cutie Mark Crusaders and her merging with the Rainbow of Light to be her power coming full circle.
Afterall, Rainbow Dash is responsible for creating all of their destinies tied to the elements as well as creating the bond that connects all six of them.
@cheezedoodle
Name 2 other unicorns that have shown teleport skills in the whole show. While I agree all have shown item manipulation few have shown teleporting.
@Beau Skunky
Maybe she is maybe she isn’t. A scene from a PS1 game I love has a mage and 2 guys traveling with her. They’re shocked that she’s eating more food then them combined and this was her response.
“Magic casting requires a lot of energy. That’s why I’m always hungry after a battle. Plus, I love hamburgers. I learned how fun it was to eat through cooking and eating hamburgers at the abbey.” - Cecilia
I just got an account and i am Backround Pony #6930.
Earth ponies get gigantic horns and wings!
Its a running theory everywhere now that RD is more important then what we think and that she does have as much Magic power if not more then Twilight.
People mostly don’t see it because its not shown the same way. While Unicorn’s magic is shown concretely. Pegasus and Earth Ponies is more passively.
Also for Cadence she got her cutie mark AND Alicorn Hood on her won when she was a filly, its why in the flashback she was already and Alicorn And she got both by being able to manipulate Love even as a Pegasus.
So it is not impossible for RD to be the next Alicorn if any of the other Mane 6 ever goes to Alicorn ground.
She is after all the reason why everyone of the mane six got their cutie mark and talent and even All that Magic power to Twilight…
And probably that weird Quirky Magic that Rarity have. Along with Pinkie’s strange power and all that.
Well the way I look at it with Scoots and the missing family ties with her or any of the other 3. No news is Good news. Yes, I’m assuming there’s a lot of background stuff we don’t see.
Here’s just one example. When did the Mane 6 Minus Pinkie Pie plan Pinkie Pie’s birthday? That was off screen.
The only one who I think has a possiblity of not having living parents is AJ. The only reason is because of just how close her extended family is so there’s a huge doubt that she’d have no parents visible before now unless something major happened.
Fluttershy was shocked that it was the same day but when did she find out? Besides, she was at a summer flight camp. There would be no way in Hades that the camp counselors wouldn’t go down to the ground and find Fluttershy. Especially after that earth shattering boom. I wouldn’t doubt that all of Cloudsdale felt that one and probably had some emergency crews all over.
So as far as I’m concerned, until the show states otherwise, Dashie, Scoots and Fluttershy all have happy families and why we don’t see Dash and Fluttershy’s family because they’re in another town that’s rarely visited.
The source of Dashie’s trauma I never really cared for as to why she couldn’t do it again after the first time. Maybe she over thought it maybe she failed to do it a few more times while showing off. Who knows?
AND one more thing about the Luna dream moments. Sweetie Belle was crying for help and Luna responded to her cries helping her out. Scoots was out right freaking out and having night mares. When scared everyone puts up mental barriers and it took a bit of effort for Luna to even reach her. Luna probably could have “breached” the mental barrier easily but not without doing something that would make the nightmare scarier.
Making a LOOOOT of assumptions to make an overly optimistic headcanon based on nothing. One would think with a society with pureness and magic would have Scootaloo flying in a jiffy, but things like that don’t always happen.
Personally I’ve thought there might be a bit more to Scootaloo’s story then meets the eye since S3. Scootaloo touched an invisible ‘mental barrier’ that prevented Luna from coming close to her memories, something Sweetie Belle did not have at all. I never figured what to make of that…Some guesses, but almost nothing solid. Not worth mentioning
“Then there’s the fact they only made Dashie’s father later on.”
Yes. In a flashback. With Rainbow Dash having tears in her eyes, and projecting her memories as overly painful…
…you can see how when its actually said outloud, them introducing the father this way is pretty damning on the whole ‘both her parents are perfectly fine in the background’ idea :/
Also, its thematically cemented into trope histroy that they both are likely orphans after Sleepless in Ponyville. Badass older bro/sis adopts insecure but brave and smart younger bro/sis? Not blood relatives?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBrotherMentor
Kamina and Simon from TTGL? Dick Grayson and Tim Drake in the Batman comics? Gene Starwind and Jim Hawkins from Outlaw Star?
Its quite a loaded trope with a lot of history. The only inversion of this trope is its between two very alpha girls.
Your 4th paragraph is pretty interesting. I’ve actually always been a fan of the psychological barrier theory for RD’s need to retrain.
But where you got it wrong was it has to be a lot thicker then mere childhood clumsiness if saving a friend could not unlock it, but just tap into the breaking point of the strength she THOUGHT she had. It was a lot easier and bigger when she was a child. (Although RD is far more skilled an athlete now, obviously)
Take Superman for example, and to be exact, only Paul Dini’s Superman. ‘World made out of cardboard’ speech. Actually earlier then that, it took a ton of effort for Superman to beat Braniac the first time he met as an adult, but when a superadvanced Braniac from the future tried to kill teenage Clark Kent and nearly killed his parents, Clark demolished him since he had far less psychological restraints.
Overwhelming unnatural strength? The fear of being treated like a freak? Only a few of the kids saw her directly do it, how would the other pegasi feel if a mere child claimed she created a legendary Sonic Rainboom blast that could LITERALLY shake Equestria?
There’s your trauma.
I’m talking about it happening more naturally then Starswirled’s artificial spell. If RD’s energy is connected to the Rainbow of Light/Elements of Harmony, which all evidence points to, that leaves a whole mess of implications and possibilities. DHX and Katie Cook did seem to think Rainbow Dash was the only one of the six strong enough to fight someone as strong as Celestia even as just a pegasi.
This is theoretical of course. If RD had to choose between a life as an alicorn princess and a life as a pegasi, well, RD gave her answer in the first episode of S4.
“Fluttershy went back to Cloudsdale after she was on the ground for the first time. She had to go cause She knew RD got her cutie mark then.”
Uhh, no she didn’t. While I don’t doubt she’s been back to Cloudsdale several times before the events of S1, she outright stated that she was shocked at learning it was the same day.
Basically, we know WAAAAY too little about Fluttershy most of all. We can’t determine a thing about her origins, we just don’t have enough to go on.
@OneOverTwo
“To be honest, the fact that the pegasus parents are seen the least is probably a huge coincidence.”
I don’t doubt that. It has to do with ‘the main 3 pegasi’ just happen to be familially distant. The ‘pegasi-spartan’ fan-theory felt way too unlikely.
“They’re probably tight lipped ’bout the pegasus parent thing in case they want to use them in an episode &/or haven’t actually decided what to do with them yet.”
There’s only so long one can go with characters while pretending parents don’t exist. Its S5 already. Compared to parents, introducing older siblings are easy writing-wise(Maud Pie, Shining Armor). While Rainbow Dash and Scootaloo are far more likely to not know any living parents, Fluttershy is a bit of a mystery and I would wager they WILL address her parents in S5.
Well I never believed the whole Scootaloo is an orphan bit from the start. While I can understand there’s no such thing as a perfect society in reality in cartoons well hell, someone will take care of her that’s family.
She’s either got very busy parents, or only 1 parent who she doesn’t spend enough time with. Heck, maybe her mom or dad is an earth pony like the cakes. She could have been a random chance birth.
Then there’s RD’s and Fluttershy’s Families. The only reason we’ve even seen Rarity’s parents more then once [or at all] is because hey they live in town. Dashie’s family could have easily been in the crowd cheering her on. She could have met her father and mother afterwards. There’s a lot of off screen moments that happen between episodes and within episodes. Then there’s the fact they only made Dashie’s father later on.
As for the sonic rainboom. It’s as simple as growing up creating a psycological limiter there. When I was a kid, I was an idiot. I’d run every where and get hurt alot. Now I’m an adult and more reserved. Maybe Rainbow Dash crashed enough times since becoming an adult and dealt with enough Emotional and Psychological issues that prevented her from just going All out top speed.
We’ve seen her deal with those issues before where she just collapses and loses it. Am I saying she’s less powerful now as an adult no. Am I saying she’s more powerful then your standard pegasi, yes.
But the point still comes down to it. She has no talent for magic in the way required to cast a spell. Making the whole she can become an alicorn because she’s powerful moot. Second it uses the elements of harmony and look where they went just after twilight got her wings?
Lastly! Fluttershy went back to Cloudsdale after she was on the ground for the first time. She had to go cause She knew RD got her cutie mark then. So maybe some point in her life she moved down to Ponyville to be with animals and the ground. Over time she built up her home and life there.
They’re probably tight lipped ‘bout the pegasus parent thing in case they want to use them in an episode &/or haven’t actually decided what to do with them yet.
To be honest, the fact that the pegasus parents are seen the least is probably a huge coincidence.
Nothing on the pegasi have been elaborated. With AJ we are given enough hints and official tweets to know AJ’s parents are dead, but with RD, Fluttershy and Scootaloo, we are never given any answers. And unlike Applejack, they staff have been tight-lipped about it.
I’m reading back on the argument and honestly some of it I’m not sure makes sense.
You claim Dashie’s mane becomes Ethereal when she was flying at hyper sonic speeds. That I’m assuming is what your getting at. There’s 2 reasons it may not be exactly as described and it may just be a visual thing.
A - She was traveling so fast it could have just looked like it. She leaves a trail behind her every where she goes at speed.
B - It was a story told to the girls. They could have imagined how it looked and RD is good at exaggerating her awesomeness.
Either way yes the sonic Rainboom and rainbow trail was what caused her friends to discover their gifts. Animal Communication, Parties, A love for home, jewels and magic. That doesn’t skip to dash being Celestia’s child. She can’t be Luna’s for obvious reasons.
Second, twilight when she was first given the powers and she didn’t get a handle on it, she had the flowing mane. Luna and Twilight are special in that they have FAR more magic in them then standard alicorns. Look at just the idea of moving the moon or the Sun. They do it with so little effort while Twilight who struggled moving it properly did it with ease with their power.
Yes, Zecora did say that with training Twilight could surpass the powers given by the Alicorn Amulet. She’s never said that about another unicorn. Twilight is gifted with a huge source of magic and is still just learning to control it. That much is obvious.
Now looking back to Why there are so little background information on Fluttershy or Rainbow Dash it makes sense. Look at the Mane 6’s family and what town’s they can easily visit.
Lastly I’m just going to go over the small list of things you brought up a few posts ago.
Rainbow Dash was wanting to be a wonderbolt for ages. She just helped AJ on the side cause she wasn’t busy.
Rainbow Dash’s eyes glowing in that one scene from the comicbook is because she was a super hero in that scene. Did you forget that fluttershy hulked out, or Pinkie pie faster then normal. Or rarity’s whole Purple Lantern style of working? The comic book episode can’t help your argument at all especially since she has no power without that necklace.
Whoever said Rainbow Dash was a farm pony? & even if she was, that doesn’t mean she used ‘earth pony magic’. She could’ve just done chores unrelated to planting.
& I was trying to say that they didn’t go out of their way to not show her mother.
Also, I don’t know… Apple Bloom seemed to affect a cloud with her emotions once maybe.
I’m not an idiot Ponypon, I know when a few pieces of data I listed are easily just coincidense.
It doesn’t effect the bigger, more relevant stuff.
Its not just RD, every pegasi main charachter has been under utilized in background, explanation and origin. You’d think that would be a relevant thing to touch upon by the 4th season.
In other words, we have way to many questions then answers, and the obvious answers are becoming increasingly disturbing…like the whole disturbing tri-relationship between Spike and Twilight, and Twilight and Celestia. As a writer, I am baffled by a few of the show’s undertones and how it is disturbing isn’t obvious to them.
Look, I know what you’re getting at, cus you’re constantly at it, but I think you’re digging your heels too deep into it.
So they’d intentionally introduce Rainbow Dash’s father in flashback yet intentionally not include the mother? That’s rather curious don’t you think?
RD used to be a farm pony on the side of being a weather pony in Ponyville until RD increased her training for the Wonderbolts. This was mentioned in the third episode, Ticket Master. We never gave it much thought until Tirek confirmed its, in show, an ability exclusive to earth ponies. Celestia and Luna according to the creators, have the natural strongest gifts of all three tribes, unlike Cadense and Twilight.
No pegasi or unicorn can have their eyes glow white on their own or just turn a cloud dark with just bad vibes or getting angry. Those are abilities exclusive to Celestia and Luna. What a coincidence.
There is only one explanation that fits the entire plot of the show, RD’s abilities and the connection to the elements of harmony all at once, and its staring at us right in the face.
Do you recognize RD’s cutie mark? What does it, and Cloudsdale visually, have in common with a rather well known disney movie?
What other race’d be able to darken clouds by giving off bad vibes? (If any of the others it’d be earth ponies considering the dark cloud over Apple Bloom in Call of the Cutie).
& how did she harvest the land? I don’t remember that… if it’s just taking food off of a plant or something probably anyone can do that. I’m pretty sure it’s earth pony only only when raising the plant.
The Sonic Rainboom was also considered myth so no one should’ve been able to do it.
& I don’t think her beginnings & mother are left intentionally unknown so much as it’s just not something that’d come up often/isn’t that important.
All I remember is Rainbow Dash saying was ‘it was a long time ago I was just a filly’. Even it is true, Rainbow Dash herself didn’t seem very confident about the reason why she couldn’t do it again, and the explanation makes no sense.
Rainbow Dash’s eyes and muscles were burning with effort to reach that extreme speed to save Rarity. It got easier to do one over time and training, but Filly Rainbow Dash created a Sonic Rainboom that could be seen from all over Equestria.
No matter how you look at it, a pegasi filly should NOT have been able to do that….
…of course…
…we don’t know anything about Rainbow Dash do we? Her beginnings, her mother, was left intentionally as unknown.
If RD’s mane can turn ethereal…then what does that say about the “pegasi” named Rainbow Dash? Last I checked, pegasi can’t harvest the land(ep3) and they can’t darken clouds just by giving off bad vibes. I thought having all 3 tribe’s gifts was more Luna and Celestia’s shtick?
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…wait…
I thought the reason she needed to retrain in how to do the Sonic Rainboom was because she did it on accident/by fluke the first time & couldn’t figure out how to do it again.
Your two points stand as possible reasons why ALL the 6 can’t just become alicorns, but they give absolutely no explanation about why Rainbow Dash couldn’t become an alicorn.
The one who started it all
Without Rainbow Dash’s power, the elements of harmony would not exist in any of them.
Some believed it was just a one time thing, but the most recent episode proved otherwise. Rainbow Dash has always had a simple energy trail for her tail since that day, a near equal named Lightning Dust was capable of that as well….but when Twilight took in all the energy of the alicorns, including Celestia and Luna, not only was she only able to create an energy trail with her tail for maybe 5 seconds during her fight, her hair did NOT become ethereal.
In contrast, when the Rainbow of Light merged with the six, while the power and new forms merely made the other 5’s hair flowing, Rainbow Dash’s new form not only looked hyper charged compared to the others, but her hair became like energy for the second time in her life.
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We still have not been given a real explanation for why RD needed to retrain for a decade just to learn how to do a regular sized Sonic Rainboom. Perhaps her true power was locked away or dissipated to create all of their destinies? One might consider the time between Cutie Mark Crusaders and her merging with the Rainbow of Light to be her power coming full circle.
Afterall, Rainbow Dash is responsible for creating all of their destinies tied to the elements as well as creating the bond that connects all six of them.
It was a joke. Relax.
Name 2 other unicorns that have shown teleport skills in the whole show. While I agree all have shown item manipulation few have shown teleporting.
She loves her burgers. But perhaps pegasi could just have less denser bones or shorter digestive tracts?
Maybe she is maybe she isn’t. A scene from a PS1 game I love has a mage and 2 guys traveling with her. They’re shocked that she’s eating more food then them combined and this was her response.
“Magic casting requires a lot of energy. That’s why I’m always hungry after a battle. Plus, I love hamburgers. I learned how fun it was to eat through cooking and eating hamburgers at the abbey.” - Cecilia