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The Frowning Pony

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@Mr.Skeleton  
Then don’t answer >:[
 
 
We will most likely release a tag and source database to go along with images in the eventuality, yes. In the meantime those interested can already use the API to get the same data (and more).
Shpoople96
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Segmentation Fault
So Mods, if Derpibooru shuts down, will you include the relevant SQL databases with the images, so we can organize our personal collection via tags and such?
Sky_Wolf
Duck - Quack!

@Background Pony #B7A7  
I guess not. At this point it would be just the same as using filters to hide the rest of the content. I guess it would have been nice if there was no one there to jump and accuse me on each of my comments, but I don’t think it would change all that much. I’m kinda used to getting hate and ridiculous accusations after being here for so long, even if it still dampens my mood every time I see them.
 
No, it is more about the fandom at this point, PB just signifies how it used to be in the past.  
Why do you ask?
Background Pony #44C1
@Sky_Wolf  
If Ponibooru was miraculously resurrected overnight, exactly as you remembered it, but the rest of the fandom continued slouching toward furfandom, would you be happy just with Ponibooru?
Sky_Wolf
Duck - Quack!

@The Frowning Pony  
Again, this is not exactly about me wanting this purge to happen here, I know it isn’t happening so there is no reason to want it in the first place. No, it was more about me enjoying being on the same wave as others and for once having someone with a similar opinion to back me up. I WOULD probably give up what I have now (in terms of fandom, of course) and go to the old days just to feel myself a part of something bigger rather than an outcast in my own fandom. I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t exactly call the desire for compassion and/or brotherhood or whatever fancy word describes the above as being “legit sucks”. I can care less about people and their reactions to hot button issues but sharing your opinion and knowing others support it is something we all seek and something that isn’t granted by hiding yourself from the truth under layers upon layers of filters.
 
@Archonix  
Huh, that’s weird… I could swear it took at least 30 to 40% of my front wall before I constructed my filters. The development I’ve mentioned is rather new and it can take some time to produce more anthro pics to counteract what has been made in the early years. I recently remember at some point having more anthro in my feed than useful pics, which prompted me to take action in the first place.
 
I’ve just checked right now there are 17 clear anthro/humanization pictures out of 55 on the main page. 20 if one counts implied or fuzzy pics too. I know it doesn’t sound like much, but 20 out of 55 is way more than just 10% you’ve mentioned. We need to look at the current influx and amount of pics rather than equated total over the 5 years we’ve been around (since things were rather different 2 or so years ago).
 
Also, it wouldn’t have been as bad if not for the fact that 3 day top-scoring area is ALWAYS dominated by anthro or humanizations. Right now, all 4 of slots are taken by anthro clop pics, which indicates exactly where this fandom is at and what artists should draw to get easy publicity. It takes a small miracle for it to be actually pony-oriented on more than 1\4-th. BTW, this was the reason I started using filters: I just got tired of seeing overrated pictures I hate instead of actually good pony pics in that box. Well, that and having half of my feed cluttered by disfigured humans. So yeah, tell me about 7% when it’s blatant how biased the user base is towards anthro stuff and how much its flow has increased and still keeps increasing compared to the past.
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However, there is a limit to that and when anthro stuff became more popular than actual ponies, it stopped being variety and turned into something else… This is not variety, this is pure deterioration of the fandom and its slow transition into becoming another furry/humanization dumpster.
 
Just for the record, there are approximately 870,000 images on this site (869687 as of this post), compared to 66390 tagged as anthro. That’s approximately 7%. This is not in any way a majority, a plurality or even a significant minority, and cannot in any way be construed as “more popular”. Even if you combine humanized, anthro and equestria girls you only get 17% of the total. By comparison, there are nearly as many pictures of Twilight Sparkle as a pony as all of those combined.
The Frowning Pony

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@Sky_Wolf  
Dude, you want to delete images you personally don’t like, ban everything not 100% pony and hound people away for liking solo male and gay stuff, “like we used to”. You’re not the aggrieved party here, you’re the one that wants to control and dictate what or how people people enjoy things, all while pretending to be defending “anarchy”.
 
That sounds like you want everyone to conform to your narrow exclusionary ideals and the freedom and support to shit on any that disagree.
 
You’re also comparing the existence of gay porn you don’t have to see to gays having rights. Yeah, everyone gets to have an opinion; yours just legit sucks.
Background Pony #44C1
@Sky_Wolf  
I never mentioned rape. I don’t even see where you would get the impression I was talking about it. I don’t mean to imply that you, personally, spread or even endorse racism and sexism, rather that you’re more comfortable having those issues in the fandom than having anthros and OCs. I’ve never said DB was perfect, but I feel it is far better than PB. Everyone I’ve ever known who preferred Ponibooru did so, in part, because people were allowed to be insulting, rude, hateful, and vulgar almost without limits. Considering I thought that was PB’s greatest failing, it should come as no surprise that, regardless of how much I prefer ponies being actual ponies, I still prefer Derpibooru.
 
If you never tried to get someone to leave the fandom because they liked anthro/OC/penises, and never encouraged others to do so, then I apologize for taking your statements literally and assuming otherwise. Still, I suspect our opinions on what this fandom should be are so diametrically opposed that we don’t really have anything to talk about.
Sky_Wolf
Duck - Quack!

@Clover the Clever  
No, in fact I’m an atheist and somewhat of a cynicism follower. I hate all religion, politics and other bullshit like that. All it does is forcefully keep society in one piece.  
I don’t like gay stuff because of my own personal reasons related to my childhood. I would rather not go into it too much but I think I have the right to dislike something as long as I don’t try to accuse or belittle others of being wrong in liking it, right? It wasn’t me who started calling others a waste of space based on it here, which already tells something about the sides. For me gay stuff is just bad, and that’s it. Nothing is going to change it and folks calling me an a-hole because of having a contradictory view is just sad and annoying.
 
I’m self-righteous and “proudly shouting” about my homophobia because I have a damn right to do so. Just as gays are shouting all over the world about their rights to do whatever they want, I have the right to dislike whomever and whatever I want. If anyone thinks for a second that all world can be turned to a singular uniform belief (in this case to like gay stuff), then they are crazy. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing in anything and particularly disagreeing on a topic like this. I am not obligated to like what you like, but I don’t go out of my way and call your opinions wrong or whatever. I always get annoyed by people who shout that I’m an a-hole for having an unpopular opinion and try to portray me as a monster or scum of society because of that.
 
Guess what? People can be cultured, educated and all-around healthy and society-friendly individuals even despite fetishes in which they indulge on the web or actively disliking gay stuff. Not everyone likes dicks FFS! I filtered it out and don’t complain about it at all, I mentioned it here just because it is yet another trend that in my opinion will bring this fandom down in the near future.  
Also, I honestly hope that the two fragments you’ve quoted aren’t supposed to be somehow linked with each other to form yet another accusation… I tried to see how they can be related but failed miserably =P
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As for the male porn, I don’t really complain yet because there is more straight and lesbian stuff out there, but the trend is present and one day it just might be that this fandom will do more gay porn than any other type… I think you understand how that might feel for a homophobic person like me.
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Also, I like how you folks claim to be tolerant and righteous and yet all I see are accusations that I’m nothing but a waste of space. What exactly did I do to warrant such statements in my address? Did I offend someone here?
 
Perhaps, but most of all you have my pity.
 
Are you particularly religious? I’m kind of curious now. Proudly shouting about your homophobia, immense self-righteousness…
Sky_Wolf
Duck - Quack!

@ObtuseAngle  
Ugh, I hate how people instantly react to hot buttons like rape. Listen, I NEVER cared about rape, racism and anything of the sort in the SLIGHTEST. I haven’t done and don’t plan to start in the future any of the said things. What I don’t do, is attempt changing opinions of other people on this topic. I simply don’t care about it. Also, I am pretty sure that I’ve mentioned several times that I haven’t been commenting on PB at all, so that means even if there were crusades (according to the chart), I didn’t partake in them. I mentioned it just because of a feeling I had back then. It’s something like a satisfaction of knowing that you don’t even have to comment because the majority of folks will agree with what you say.
 
And yes, I was here and still am only for the ponies. I love RD but even with that I absolutely despise her human form from EQG. And it was all about ponies in the beginning, I dunno what you are talking about. Characters, true, but characters WERE ponies and therefore it was about ponies before the great tide of anthro begun.
 
And enough with rape and racism, I NEVER mentioned those in my comments and yet it’s the main thing folks are accusing me of. I just don’t care. Like you say rape, racism, gender discrimination, etc. and I just roll my eyes. There is nothing I can do to change it and it’s not as widespread in the area I live than it is in US where people talk about it non-stop.
 
As for the male porn, I don’t really complain yet because there is more straight and lesbian stuff out there, but the trend is present and one day it just might be that this fandom will do more gay porn than any other type… I think you understand how that might feel for a homophobic person like me. I don’t tell you what you are and aren’t allowed to do IRL, I have no right to do that. But I have a right to feel uncomfortable and dislike seeing content of such nature, especially if there is a ton of it.
 
@ghostfacekiller39  
One thing is just talking with or without mentioning past encounters on a related pic, and the other is to search out and start commenting on unrelated pictures where I’ve recently commented after getting offended on an unrelated post which wasn’t even meant as such. You also plainly admitted in this being your motivation before your bigotry, hypocrisy and non-stop bickering got us both banned… TWICE. I wonder if you would have bothered if I was commenting as a BP. I sure as hell think NOT. All you did was come here and say “Hur-hur, Sky_Wolf is bad, he “wronged” me in the past, don’t talk to him because I don’t like him!”, which isn’t contributing anything to the conversation at all… as per usual from your appearances on my posts. Disclaimer: I don’t want to get banned again because of your stalking, so I think you can take your petty pot-shot at me and I’ll just ignore whatever righteous self-exaltation you’re gonna do.
 
Also, I like how you folks claim to be tolerant and righteous and yet all I see are accusations that I’m nothing but a waste of space. What exactly did I do to warrant such statements in my address? Did I offend someone here? Or is expressing personal opinion on a related topic considered being a dick? People look so silly when they overreact and flip their stuff after hearing a contrary opinion.
 
You think this place is perfect? Track back this conversation and you’ll see something else.  
All I did was state a PERSONAL opinion without even trying to portray it as existential truth or anything of the sort. And yet here we have lots of people and even my beloved stalker shouting that my opinion sucks and I’m a scum of this fandom for liking PB and disliking the rest of what I said. They use complete bullshit like omitting parts of my messages (about me not commenting back at PB) and thinking up additional stuff (like me accepting and spreading racism) which essentially comes back to carrying out the thing I’ve already mentioned:
 
“I am CONSTANTLY in the minority wherever I go and no filter will be able to fix it or make me truly belong to someplace where people preach contradicting views as something given by default and look at me like I’m crazy for not liking it.”
 
P.S. If majority screws you over, you can’t really expect any other behavior from me. If you are allowed to say everything you said about me, then why aren’t I allowed or supposed to do the same?
The Frowning Pony

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@Background Pony #B7A7  
The only hard things I know about /pone/ is it’s where the recent influx of “skin edits” came from and where some loser tried to organize a ddos of the site and was laughed off. I don’t know what its “culture” is in regards to anthro/humanized, homophobia or whatnot. Though I guess being known as “too edgy for /mlp/” isn’t in its favour.
Background Pony #44C1
@The Frowning Pony  
Well, I did dial back what I initially intended to write, but I thought it might still be considered insulting. And wouldn’t /pone/ be more appropriate?
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Man, I’m sure glad I was never part of Ponibooru’s community, what with all I’m hearing of it years later, everything I enjoyed, I would have been hated for, and I thought the negativity from people here about it got bad sometimes. Goddamn, if it really was as bad as you say, I’d have quit and never gave Derpi a chance. That was all I read as I lost interest in reading anymore.
 
@ghostfacekiller39  
Also this. It’s clear he’s just gonna keep talking too and not stop.
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Why are you people wasting your time with Sky_Wolf
 
I did so multiple times and now he just tells everyone I’m insane and that I stalk him because we argued more than once
 
It just isn’t worth the effort people
The Frowning Pony

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@ObtuseAngle  
Dude what. That comment’s like nowhere near the the horizon of stuff we’d ponder moderating. Sky_Wolf is a dick and represents the part of the fandom “anti-bronies” spew about as being the entire lot of us. He’s the small percentage that by association ruins everything for the majority.
 
And Sky_Wolf, just leave and go to /mlp/. You’ll fit right in. Seriously, not joking.
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(Decloaking for this comment because I’m just angry enough to do so.)
 
@Sky_Wolf  
That table you posted to illustrate why you preferred Ponibooru to Derpibooru? The one that claimed (correctly) PB had a “high level of racist comments”? And your reminiscing about “hunting the heretics” who you implied were those who liked “dicks, OCs or anthro/humanizations”?
 
I actually agree with you that the slow shifting of the fandom towards OCs, anthros, and humanizations is not good; there’s probably comments of me complaining about humanized ponies being in EqD Drawfriend posts way back when I cared. But that stuff is chicken feed compared to the racism, sexism, and other forms of hatred for actual human beings that still festers in some pockets of the fandom. The fact that you and your fellow bronies chose to crusade against fans that liked anthro instead of fans that spread racist garbage? That’s the sort of thing that made me decide to go anonymous on brony sites. (And complaining about the existence of porn of male characters? Such a petty and self-centered outlook makes me wonder what you enjoyed about the show in the first place.)
 
@The Frowning Pony  
Good point; while I feel the fandom as a whole hasn’t done enough to speak out against the hatred that some fans spew forth, there are a lot of fans that have tried to counter it in various ways, and even if I don’t always agree with y’all I do thank the mod team here for at least trying to keep it under control.
 
And if you need to delete this comment and/or ban me, I’ll accept my fate; it was still worth it to vent.
Background Pony #DEDA
@Sky_Wolf  
The core of the fandom is not, and never has been about ponies. Ponies are just the medium by which we have observed, followed along, and bonded with all the wonderful characters and lore in the show, which led to the creation of our own material becoming so widespread. Twilight is still Twilight regardless of whether she’s a unicorn, an alicorn, a human, or even an anthro. These characters and settings are the real core of the fandom, not the pony forms they take. If you were only here because of them being ponies, I don’t think you were ever in tune with the “core” of the fandom.
Sky_Wolf
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@Fwelin  
I am allowed to have an opinion though, am I not? How can anyone claim that my personal impressions are wrong? If a fandom built around equines changes over time to another generic anthro community the likes of furry or pretty much anything else, I think I have more than enough reasons to call it a decay. If you don’t agree - it’s your choice. For me seeing the ONLY fandom I enjoy (for it being about horses) being slowly turned into yet another grey mush that doesn’t stand out from the rest is a purely negative change and there is no way I can just filter the images and pretend to forget comments and other stuff that inevitably gets through.
 
I remember how it was before EQG and all that crap and I just can’t help but feel that once the core of the fandom is gone, it will truly die once and for all. The next generation or reboot might be about human schoolgirls (so overdone, stupid and boring) since that’s apparently what people in this fandom are now into… Who needs ponies when we can have disfigured magical multicolored schoolgirls running around and singing? Let’s turn all ponies into anthro or humans and maybe give them all dicks while we are at it! It’s not like there is no other fandom (or ten) that specializes around exactly the same topic!
 
It might have been fine to have variety of content and all that other stuff early on… However, there is a limit to that and when anthro stuff became more popular than actual ponies, it stopped being variety and turned into something else… This is not variety, this is pure deterioration of the fandom and its slow transition into becoming another furry/humanization dumpster. One can filter oneself all one wants and hide under a rock, but people keep voting anthro stuff up to the heavens and more and more artists keep switching from pony to human stuff in pursuit of a greater user base.
 
What is it called when folks get outnumbered in their own fandom? Variety? I don’t think so. This place exists thanks to ponies and it pains me to see the whole thing slowly crumbling apart and losing the very reason we are here. Once you remove ponies, why are we here, what connects us? I wouldn’t want to associate with anyone whose answer would be “multicolored humans”. Again, this all is just my opinion, nothing more.
 
@Background Pony #B7A7  
People hate on some of us because we tried to force ponies on everyone and set our own rules by being SJWs and crusading the Net all the time. I’m pretty sure that me liking snuff has nothing to do with what our fandom gets for some of the claims users make outside our own sites. How would anyone hate our fandom based on me if I don’t even associate with bronies all that much on other websites? In fact, in most cases it is people with twisted and really dark interests who seem to be acting most objective and unbiased. They can both judge and enjoy usual artwork as well as not flip the table when they encounter something “special” and therefore cause less shitstorms and SJW shit about how drawing X in a situation Y is just wrong and author must be killed in Z way.
 
I’m just an exception because I have too much free time on my hands and like to bitch about how stupid people can be and how there is more opinions than one. Also, I didn’t say anything about racism at any point of my discussion as well as didn’t outright state that gay stuff must be purged. Anthro and humanizations do need to get purged, but everything else you’ve mentioned is just an application of straw man fallacy and it looks really cheap in this case. Especially when folks try blaming all issues of this fandom on me and my kind (I wish there was my kind in the first place, cuz as of now I’m just a lone warrior).
Background Pony #44C1
@Sky_Wolf  
So racism, homophobia, grimdark porn, all that was just fine and dandy, but anthros, OCs, and porn featuring male characters were supposed to be purged from the fandom?
 
Yeah, we deserve all the flack we’ve gotten from the rest of the internet.
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@Sky_Wolf  
So basically, you think the fandom is decaying just because, for some reason, you have a singular picture of what the fandom SHOULD be.
 
A fandom shifting away from your tastes doesn’t necessarily mean it’s decaying, you know, nor do you have a right to limit others’ tastes when they don’t hurt anyone, and it’s easy to make it so they don’t affect you.
Sky_Wolf
Duck - Quack!

@The Frowning Pony  
@Clover the Clever  
I don’t think we are on the same page here, but whatever. I was talking about my personal opinion and experiences and in no way did I try to compare it objectively (since it is impossible). For you having everyone into dicks and anthro is somehow countered by ability to block most of the said images. For me, when it comes to anthro, I would rather get rid of all these pics and make this fandom purely pony-related like it used to be in the past instead of hiding and pretending that 3 day top-scoring pics are not an indicator of the state of health of this fandom.
 
It’s just that you are basically accusing me of NOT preferring hiding under a rock with a blindfold over my eyes to being out there on the streets in a mob hunting the heretics as we used to do in the past. Back then most folks shared my opinion what this fandom should be about and weren’t crazy about dicks, OCs or anthro/humanizations whereas now I am CONSTANTLY in the minority wherever I go and no filter will be able to fix it or make me truly belong to someplace where people preach contradicting views as something given by default and look at me like I’m crazy for not liking it. Basically no amount of filters or moderation will provide the experience of belonging and associating with something, the very same feeling I used to have on more anarchic and grim PB.
 
I hope you understand my point of view and no need to be so sarcastic about it. It’s like you are taking my personal opinion and experience as if it was an offence to you. Not everyone can like what you do, and I seem to be in the minority that doesn’t exactly like all aspects of it. Even though I gotta admin that the majority of what I’ve mentioned isn’t actually your fault and can be attributed to the decay of the fandom itself.